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    Özil, Marin, Kroos - but not forget about Gebhart

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    whos the best

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    Post by Kroos Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:44 pm

    by far the biggest midfield talents we have

    everyone speaks about the big 3

    but gebhart (born 1989, plays for stuttgart as starter) is playing very good (hes very good with the ball, has great movement and will play cl this season)

    hes also a type, a personality, he can be our spice boy or glamour boy, the medias would love him
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:46 pm

    Özil wrote:
    everyone speaks about the big 3

    No, YOU speak about them, all the time.


    I talk about Nile Ranger. Nile Ranger Nile Ranger Nile Ranger. The big 1. <Ale>
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    Post by COTR Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:49 pm

    I think Gebhart is clearly the best

    I should add that I don't know who he is however he is definitely the best of that bunch
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    Post by Fey Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:50 pm

    Just because they look good compared to the rest of the hitlerjugend doesnt mean they already are World class!
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    Post by Kroos Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:52 pm

    http://www.paperblog.fr/2223720/video-resume-buts-fc-timisoara-vfb-stuttgart-0-2-ligue-des-champions-18082009/

    in cl quali for stuttgart

    such a young guy shoots that important penalty, says it everything

    fatty would have missed it
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    Post by Kroos Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:59 pm

    atm the rank is clear, kroos has to improve to live up the hype arround him, but hes the youngest of all 4


    my rank:

    1. özil
    2. marin
    3. gebhart
    4. kroos
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    Post by Effenberg Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:00 pm

    Özil, would you stop giving Germans a bad name on here please? It's ok if you don't post something about German players every hour of the day.

    Plus, it's "says it all" not "says it everything*".
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    Post by Isco Benny Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:26 pm

    Effenberg wrote:Özil, would you stop giving Germans a bad name on here please? It's ok if you don't post something about German players every hour of the day.

    Plus, it's "says it all" not "says it everything*".

    <Ale>

    It's not even that he posts consistently about German players,

    it's the fact he dismisses other nation's players without really appearing to know what he's talking about
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:12 pm

    Fey wrote:Just because they look good compared to the rest of the hitlerjugend doesnt mean they already are World class!
    lol!
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    Post by Lesley Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:26 pm

    Özil, Marin, Kroos or Gebhart ?


    Eljero Elia.

    Ale
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    Post by SuperMario Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:48 pm

    lol!

    great HSV signing Ale

    let's not forget about pololski
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    Post by Axeslammer Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:46 pm

    WORLD DOMINATION ! cheers
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    Post by Lesley Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:09 pm

    Laugh
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    Post by anglophileHedgehog Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:47 pm

    Gebhart, for his prole-tasticness:
    Özil, Marin, Kroos - but not forget about Gebhart Ma-werder-will-timo-gebhardt-halbe-bundesliga-jagt-loewen
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    Post by S4P Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:58 pm

    Özil wrote:http://www.paperblog.fr/2223720/video-resume-buts-fc-timisoara-vfb-stuttgart-0-2-ligue-des-champions-18082009/

    in cl quali for stuttgart

    such a young guy shoots that important penalty, says it everything

    fatty would have missed it

    The penalty miss in the Champions League semi-final 2nd leg against Liverpool only supports your argument.

    Facts Ale
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:05 pm

    Gebhart is a very promising talent indeed, but he needs to learn to control his temper. He is too irrational and rash often. Hope they'll show him some discipline in Stuttgart.
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    Post by Isco Benny Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:46 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Gebhart is a very promising talent indeed, but he needs to learn to control his temper. He is too irrational and rash often. Hope they'll show him some discipline in Stuttgart.

    This summer I was on my way to Hungary via Munich when I stopped for a beer, and was served by a young waiter with very promising talent.

    Which had me thinking:

    is there a youngster in Germany that isn't a promising talent?

    This mystical Endless Conveyor Belt that Otto has been talking about: perhaps it really does exist after all!

    The future is BRIGHT

    The future is GERMAN PROMISING TALENTS!

    cheers cheers cheers cheers
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:53 pm

    Well, Entschuldigung TRWP, we just won all three European youth titles, so there may be a few promising young talents between them.

    When otto talked about the conveyor belt, it didn't exist. But the aim of course is to have a constant output of quality young players. And it's looking good as far as I can see, may it long continue! Very Happy
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    Post by anglophileHedgehog Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:07 pm

    Aus dem VfB Seggl Board zum Thema "Möglicher Wechsel von Ebert zum VfB":
    Ums Himmel willen. der Ebert auf Berlin.

    Wenn der auf rechts außen mit dem Gebhardt um die Häuser zieht, gibt's beim Daimler bals Sonderschichten zur nachproduktion abgetretener Sterne.
    lol!
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    Post by Isco Benny Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:08 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Well, Entschuldigung TRWP, we just won all three European youth titles, so there may be a few promising young talents between them.

    When otto talked about the conveyor belt, it didn't exist. But the aim of course is to have a constant output of quality young players. And it's looking good as far as I can see, may it long continue! Very Happy

    You're right Blut, and I'm really pulling Deisler's pecker more than yours,

    but if we're being serious for a moment: England's kiddies have been to 2 finals this year (and 4 in the last 4 years), but you don't hear us rollcalling a long list of our youngsters as promising young talents based on this, as we all know that the percentage of players who actually develop is relatively small Wink

    English hype hey - UNBEARABLE Cool
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:17 pm

    Maybe because none of those kids was anything special? There is no way that you'd "forget" about hyping every single one of them if they were, that's simply not possible. Very Happy

    Let's see TRWP. Gebhart was Germany's best player for most of the U19 Euros, scored in the final, has already established himself at a team that is playing in the CL. He is skillfull and dynamic, scores quite a few for a midfielder, is a fighter and pretty solid defensively.

    So yes, he does look promising indeed. Just because you don't know him, you likely would if he was named 'Gebartinho', it doesn't mean that this is not the case. Watch more German football old pecker, you'll be surprised. Very Happy Ale
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    Post by blutgraetsche Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:18 pm

    anglophileHedgehog wrote:Aus dem VfB Seggl Board zum Thema "Möglicher Wechsel von Ebert zum VfB":
    Ums Himmel willen. der Ebert auf Berlin.

    Wenn der auf rechts außen mit dem Gebhardt um die Häuser zieht, gibt's beim Daimler bals Sonderschichten zur nachproduktion abgetretener Sterne.
    lol!

    lol!

    Ebert is the plague. Those Berlin kids, no matter how talented, are just poison with their shitty attitude. Keep them away from your team at all costs!
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    Post by Lesley Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:54 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Those Berlin kids, no matter how talented, are just poison with their shitty attitude. Keep them away from your team at all costs!

    One of them now happens to be the captain of the German U21 and the future of the German A team defence. He also happens to play for Hamburg, and I'm pretty glad that he does and noone kept him away. Whistle
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    Post by blutgraetsche Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:01 am

    Jerome Boateng is an exception Lesley, I think you're well aware of that! Just look at the path his brother took...
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    Post by Lesley Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:14 am

    I was teasing, blut, but I also didn't like your generalisation.

    Especially not after all the bullsh*t from Hertha, who tried making everyone believe, he was some money-grubbing, sophomoric arse, just because he didn't want to extend his contract there.

    And just because he happens to be the half-brother of the other Boateng, everyone wanted to believe it. Luckily I never bought it.


    P.S.:

    You should know better, blut, considering that you got Özil in the team. Schalke tried doing the same with him.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:32 am

    I never believed Jerome Boateng to be anything like his brother. If that's the impression you got, it's wrong. I always believed him to be a great talent, always rated him, especially because his character is totally different to his brother's! I don't care about BILD headlines and Hertha bullshit.

    That's actually my point, not the players per se, HERTHA is the problem. There simply have been too many players from their academy with a serious attitude problems for this to be coincidence.

    Berlin may have its rough places, but this ridiculous 'ghetto kid' mentality many Hertha kids have needs to stop. Hertha should do something about this during the education of those youngsters. They have to teach them discipline and real values.

    Fortunately, Jerome had other plans and found his own path, despite his brother's negative influence. That only speaks for him.
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    Post by Lesley Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:39 am

    blutgraetsche wrote:I never believed Jerome Boateng to be anything like his brother. If that's the impression you got, it's wrong.

    Nah, I never got that impression actually. That's why I was so surprised to read that statement of yours.

    Hertha ist ein Idioten-Verein. Although that might change, since they finally got rid of Dieter Hoeneß.
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:43 am

    blutgraetsche wrote:Maybe because none of those kids was anything special? There is no way that you'd "forget" about hyping every single one of them if they were, that's simply not possible. Very Happy

    Let's see TRWP. Gebhart was Germany's best player for most of the U19 Euros, scored in the final, has already established himself at a team that is playing in the CL. He is skillfull and dynamic, scores quite a few for a midfielder, is a fighter and pretty solid defensively.

    So yes, he does look promising indeed. Just because you don't know him, you likely would if he was named 'Gebartinho', it doesn't mean that this is not the case. Watch more German football old pecker, you'll be surprised. Very Happy Ale

    You're right - I don't see anything special individually in our 21 team, which still managed to make the final of the Euros and were also unbeaten for donkey's years (Fabian Delph and Jack Wilshere in our u19's team though are looking like special talents at EPL level).

    Which is why, in my opinion, kiddies comps should be taken with a pinch of salt.

    But then, as you like to keep pointing out - it's a TEAM game and not about individuals.

    I'll look forward to seeing more of the next successors to the Podolski/Schweinsteiger/Gomez/Odonker hype Wink
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    Post by Ballboy Thomas Müller Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:41 am

    Spider Crouch wrote:
    I'll look forward to seeing more of the next successors to the Podolski/Schweinsteiger/Gomez/Odonker hype Wink
    All of them were (semi)-finalists of the last two major tournaments.
    So, there is no hype without a reason. And the young players coming up now are even better.
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    Post by Kroos Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:16 am

    we won 3 youth tournaments, that are at least 33 players i could hype, but i hype only 3-5 players, so they kids look special to me

    there are also

    kedhira
    hummels
    neuer
    beck
    boateng
    höwedes
    etc etc etc

    very important players for the future, but my personal nature prefers midfielders to hype lol!


    the englands have lennon, wilshire, walcott, have i forgotten a big talent !!

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