klinsmann US trainer?

not really a suprise...seems to be the job hes wanted for a while..apparently its just the matter of his wages that needs to be cleared up..he wants 2m apparently

As you have said it's hardly a surprise. However I think he should have stayed with us instead, but des Menschen Wille ist sein Himmelreich...

chrissicross wrote:des Menschen Wille ist sein Himmelreich...

especially klinsmann..hes spent his entire career doing EXACTLY what HE wants..

mind you..you cant blame him though...hes done pretty well

You can blame him.

He chickened out of his position halfway through the job - his was to rejuvenate the national squad with new playing styles, training methods etc. He just quit after a succesful WC - there wasn't really more in it, and he got the most out of them at that point.

One of the main reasons for quitting was that "he needed a break from football", and put things in his life together.

To become a manager of another side so soon reeks of hypocrisy. He basicly abondoned the German side - halfway through a fragile rebuilding process. No need to tie bows around this one - that's the cold hard truth.

If he said he'd quit for other reasons that would be different, but you can't tell the peopel from your nation that you need a break and then take another job. How's this different from a player who swears loyalty to the club & fans and then jumps ship two weeks later by choice.


I thought he might pull such a stunt by managing another side after claiming burnout and needing for a rest, but the USA? That makes it even more cowardous in his approach IMO. Just say you don't like the flying.

Fully agreed DD, you hit the nail on the head.

But in the meanwhile, I'm not worried about the future of the Mannschaft. Löw is doing a great job.

Loew was very important in what Klinsmann acheived (Klinsmann himself said that) and is doing a fine job.
I am not that worried.

Distinguished Dutchman wrote:You can blame him.

He chickened out of his position halfway through the job - his was to rejuvenate the national squad with new playing styles, training methods etc. He just quit after a succesful WC - there wasn't really more in it, and he got the most out of them at that point.

One of the main reasons for quitting was that "he needed a break from football", and put things in his life together.

To become a manager of another side so soon reeks of hypocrisy. He basicly abondoned the German side - halfway through a fragile rebuilding process. No need to tie bows around this one - that's the cold hard truth.

If he said he'd quit for other reasons that would be different, but you can't tell the peopel from your nation that you need a break and then take another job. How's this different from a player who swears loyalty to the club & fans and then jumps ship two weeks later by choice.


I thought he might pull such a stunt by managing another side after claiming burnout and needing for a rest, but the USA? That makes it even more cowardous in his approach IMO. Just say you don't like the flying.

@distinguished

agree 100%

Klinsmann has lost all credibility

he joined the Nationalmannschaft set-up with the intention of bringing German football into the 21st century, his was a medium-to long-term project, hence his insistence on youth, a certain style, rather than merely results

chucking it all in when the public and media had finally embraced him and given him the credit to implement all his ideas is nothing short of treason and treachery

then intending to take on the US job soon afterwards despite apparently being burnt out defies belief

funny thing is, during the World Cup he became seriously popular in Germany

his subsequent behaviour (first resigning, then refusing to even join the Mannschaft in Berlin to receive a medal from the Chancellor) has meant that the belated Klinsi fans have become very indifferent to him

he has thrown away his legacy

a horrible person really, with no inner-beauty

greatest egotist in Germany, well formerly, now in the US; he makes Donald Trump look like a team-player

glad we are rid of Grinsi

let them Americans or Oesis have him

I would not even give him a Visa to enter the Vaterland

Good choice of the US of A. He is one of the new progressive and young coaches in the world!!!!!! US of A can only take advantage out of it!




Because the US of A are not strict in the conservatism of the football world they probably will do much better in the next couple of years than many people think they will do!

@ric

I know why you Dutchies are so in love with Klinsi

he DESTROYED our World Cup hopes

if you seriously rate him so highly then why don't you offer him San Marco's position ??????

I 100% agree with you!!!!!! He wouldn´t be bad for the Nederland but the KNVB are not brave enough to sign this German because:

He doesn´t live in Holland but in the US of A...

He clearly doesn´t know a thing of the Dutch Eredivisie because otherwise he would have selected SIMON CZIOMMER instead of Borowski....

He is not a Dutchie!!!!!!!!! The press would be very critical on him from the beginning

Johan Cruijff would never advise Klinsmann

But most important::::::!!!!!!!

Marco van Basten is doing a fine job at the moment! He is the only man to WIN us the EUROs in Swiss/Austria!

San Marco ist ein hollaendischer Fussball Super-Gau

GET RID OF HIM

we will send you Klinsi instead; I understand your problem: Klinsi commutes to work and knows nothing about Dutch football

don't worry

Netzer will be his 1st assistent, Youri Mulder his 2nd assistent

problem solved

San Marco would then become manager of Bayern Munich

Magath is a total flop and as long as vB wears orange socks and shirts, he will be welcomed as a saviour in Germany

Magath can then become manager of Costa Rica

a win-win-win situation

I agree with Netzer... a very wise man...

But Mulder....? Ok he is doing his trainers course in GERMANY (because that´s a lot easier)....

But hey, he doesnt have the right skills for being a manager.... Maybe he can functionate as a translator....

otto the humble German wrote:

Distinguished Dutchman wrote:You can blame him.

He chickened out of his position halfway through the job - his was to rejuvenate the national squad with new playing styles, training methods etc. He just quit after a succesful WC - there wasn't really more in it, and he got the most out of them at that point.

One of the main reasons for quitting was that "he needed a break from football", and put things in his life together.

To become a manager of another side so soon reeks of hypocrisy. He basicly abondoned the German side - halfway through a fragile rebuilding process. No need to tie bows around this one - that's the cold hard truth.

If he said he'd quit for other reasons that would be different, but you can't tell the peopel from your nation that you need a break and then take another job. How's this different from a player who swears loyalty to the club & fans and then jumps ship two weeks later by choice.


I thought he might pull such a stunt by managing another side after claiming burnout and needing for a rest, but the USA? That makes it even more cowardous in his approach IMO. Just say you don't like the flying.

@distinguished

agree 100%

Klinsmann has lost all credibility

he joined the Nationalmannschaft set-up with the intention of bringing German football into the 21st century, his was a medium-to long-term project, hence his insistence on youth, a certain style, rather than merely results

chucking it all in when the public and media had finally embraced him and given him the credit to implement all his ideas is nothing short of treason and treachery

then intending to take on the US job soon afterwards despite apparently being burnt out defies belief

funny thing is, during the World Cup he became seriously popular in Germany

his subsequent behaviour (first resigning, then refusing to even join the Mannschaft in Berlin to receive a medal from the Chancellor) has meant that the belated Klinsi fans have become very indifferent to him

he has thrown away his legacy

a horrible person really, with no inner-beauty

greatest egotist in Germany, well formerly, now in the US; he makes Donald Trump look like a team-player

glad we are rid of Grinsi

let them Americans or Oesis have him

I would not even give him a Visa to enter the Vaterland

What I'm incredibly amazed at is that he lied to the people of his country, no less.
Now it appears that not only did he abandon a longterm fragile rebuilding process in his mold, but he chooses to back stab his country by taking not just another coaching job, but another national coaching job less than two months after grandly declaring a burnout, and taking a supposed leave from football.


He threw it all away - his legacy, his recent accomplishments, the team's prettier football and result - and his bond with the people of Germany. I cannot remember a national coach who quit his own country halfway though the proces (under false pretences) and become another country's national manager. This is most likely because of good reason.

No different than someone who ties a dog to a tree and abondons it, telling the neighbours because he couldn't cope with it, and two weeks later buys a shinier younger dog. Scum. No matter what you achieve.

Good luck visiting the Heimat next time Klinsi. F O O L.

"DD

Thousands of coaches did worse things!

Klinsmann did an excellent job at the World Cup and decided to chill for a while what is wrong with that???????????????????????????

He is a future TOP coach and you have to judge him on skills not on all other minor details!!!!!!

Ok, let's calm down here. Although I agree that Klinsmann will lose a lot of credibility if he decides to work as a coach for the US, one still should not forget what he did for German football in the last 2 years.

Klinsmann is a great motivator, a stubborn visionary who fought hard to implement some crucial changes in the 'crusty' DFB (German FA), and he was successful with that (to a certain degree). His attacking football philosophy is supported both by the German public and the DFB now, and our youth teams are already adopting it.

Klinsmann is not a tactician, not a 'real' coach if you like, all of the tactical stuff was actually done by Löw. So you can say that he is not a guy for 'everyday work' (e.g. Euro qualification). His motivation skills are most useful in a major tournament, they would wear out in the long term process of the qualification.

The 2006 WC at home was a unique opportunity for him to 'revolutionise' German football, without the pressure of the qualification.
Klinsmann basically got the thing rolling, the new foundation of the Mannschaft stands, now it's up to Löw and others to fine tune everything and continue on the path, and Löw and his staff are actually doing this very well.

To sum it up: Klinsmann is a sprinter, not an endurance runner. What he did for German football will not be forgotten by the German public, even if he will definitely lose a lot of credibility and sympathy if he decides to coach the US team.

@blut

spot on!

Distinguished Dutchman wrote:

otto the humble German wrote:

Distinguished Dutchman wrote:You can blame him.

He chickened out of his position halfway through the job - his was to rejuvenate the national squad with new playing styles, training methods etc. He just quit after a succesful WC - there wasn't really more in it, and he got the most out of them at that point.

One of the main reasons for quitting was that "he needed a break from football", and put things in his life together.

To become a manager of another side so soon reeks of hypocrisy. He basicly abondoned the German side - halfway through a fragile rebuilding process. No need to tie bows around this one - that's the cold hard truth.

If he said he'd quit for other reasons that would be different, but you can't tell the peopel from your nation that you need a break and then take another job. How's this different from a player who swears loyalty to the club & fans and then jumps ship two weeks later by choice.


I thought he might pull such a stunt by managing another side after claiming burnout and needing for a rest, but the USA? That makes it even more cowardous in his approach IMO. Just say you don't like the flying.

@distinguished

agree 100%

Klinsmann has lost all credibility

he joined the Nationalmannschaft set-up with the intention of bringing German football into the 21st century, his was a medium-to long-term project, hence his insistence on youth, a certain style, rather than merely results

chucking it all in when the public and media had finally embraced him and given him the credit to implement all his ideas is nothing short of treason and treachery

then intending to take on the US job soon afterwards despite apparently being burnt out defies belief

funny thing is, during the World Cup he became seriously popular in Germany

his subsequent behaviour (first resigning, then refusing to even join the Mannschaft in Berlin to receive a medal from the Chancellor) has meant that the belated Klinsi fans have become very indifferent to him

he has thrown away his legacy

a horrible person really, with no inner-beauty

greatest egotist in Germany, well formerly, now in the US; he makes Donald Trump look like a team-player

glad we are rid of Grinsi

let them Americans or Oesis have him

I would not even give him a Visa to enter the Vaterland

What I'm incredibly amazed at is that he lied to the people of his country, no less.
Now it appears that not only did he abandon a longterm fragile rebuilding process in his mold, but he chooses to back stab his country by taking not just another coaching job, but another national coaching job less than two months after grandly declaring a burnout, and taking a supposed leave from football.


He threw it all away - his legacy, his recent accomplishments, the team's prettier football and result - and his bond with the people of Germany. I cannot remember a national coach who quit his own country halfway though the proces (under false pretences) and become another country's national manager. This is most likely because of good reason.

No different than someone who ties a dog to a tree and abondons it, telling the neighbours because he couldn't cope with it, and two weeks later buys a shinier younger dog. Scum. No matter what you achieve.

Good luck visiting the Heimat next time Klinsi. F O O L.

I think you guys are being too harsh on him. I think he quit Germany because it was too painful. I can understand that, he needed a change of scenary, less pressure.

Apparently he's going to be helping out the Austrian coach with training methods and tactics.