Bundesliga Round 4

FT: Dortmund 1:0 HSV

Crisis .. HSV have good players, but i'm not sure if they are gelling..

Werder Bremen vs. Stuttgart 2:3 final score.

Congrats Stuttgart.



Werder in a crisis, there is no point in arguing. Now it clearly shows that it definitely was a bad idea to let Fahrenhorst move to Hannover. We had the most stable defence of the second half of last season, and now we have a defence that is in shambles, and Mertesacker who still is not fully fit yet.

blutgraetsche wrote:If that's not a crisis, I don't know what is. Thomas Schaaf really has to figure out a way to solve the problems, especially in the defence. And we really need Mertesacker ASAP!

God, the last few weeks have been awful for us.

What a huge chance wasted, leading 2-0, HSV and Bayern losing...dammit.

rai Mihawk wrote:FT: Dortmund 1:0 HSV

Crisis .. HSV have good players, but i'm not sure if they are gelling..

Did you watch the game? Did you think Guerrero was lucky not to be sent off?

Sheffield gunner wrote:

rai Mihawk wrote:FT: Dortmund 1:0 HSV

Crisis .. HSV have good players, but i'm not sure if they are gelling..

Did you watch the game? Did you think Guerrero was lucky not to be sent off?

Did not see the game, but via other source

i can understand his frustrations ..

Well, it sure is a close race this year...

Schalke now have a very good chance to take the lead, by beating Hertha who have a weak defence as well. As much as I hate to say it, but it looks good for them.

Schalke are very capable of losing points as well. As they've done so often in the past. They're hot and cold. Compare the match against Bremen and that awful showing in the Uefa Cup.

Magath is killing me with his substitutions. Always Scholl and Salhamidzic. They've been great for Bayern but it's not 2001 anymore. Give Karimi and Dos Santos a chance in midfield for God's sake. At least for a half hour. Karimi is a great dribbler I'm sure he could create a chance or two.

Yeah, it's a shame that Karimi doesn't even get a chance against minor opponents like Bielefeld.


To summarise the day (actually the last few weeks) for me:

WAS FÜR EIN SCHEISS TAG!

glad to see our Bremer Wonneproppen firing on all cylinders, spreading their own particular brand of sunshine

your fan motto should be:

" Ich krieg ne Krise"

it may be " Fuenf vor Zwoelf", but also remember good old Luther would have planted an apple tree the day before the end of the world

you might want to ask the MONSTER to help you plant an entire orchard now, and we all know, he would probably agree to do it and not charge any money. in fact, he would seek your praise and approval

Bremen don't need the MONSTER or indeed Mertesacker back though, they need FAITH

without BELIEVERS the Bremer Vaterstadt is nothing but a struggling Hanseatic city, its air filled with the smell of coffee

my dear Bremer, remember, you are more than mere coffee-makers, you are Europe's most attractive football town, you make the world dream

Gibt nicht auf zu traeumen nur weil ein paar Schwaben mal dem Glueck froehnten

Werder will become Bundesliga MEISTER

if I know as much in London, it's time you woke up to the inevitable as well

Lage der Liga: Dem Tief im Norden folgt Donnergrollen
http://www.welt.de/data/2006/09/16/1039606.html

Lalala... So ein Tag, so wunderschön wie heute...


Well done, Stuttgart Coming back from being 2-0 down isn't easy, especially at the moment. Good to see Gomez scoring as well; Hitzlsperger had a few good moments--shame his pass/low cross couldn't be converted.

So... The VfB won, Bayern lost (and didn't look as if they were with it, or so I thought), Aachen were entertaining... and Hamburg got beaten by Dortmund. Not bad!

otto the humble German wrote:glad to see our Bremer Wonneproppen firing on all cylinders, spreading their own particular brand of sunshine

your fan motto should be:

" Ich krieg ne Krise"

it may be " Fuenf vor Zwoelf", but also remember good old Luther would have planted an apple tree the day before the end of the world

you might want to ask the MONSTER to help you plant an entire orchard now, and we all know, he would probably agree to do it and not charge any money. in fact, he would seek your praise and approval

Bremen don't need the MONSTER or indeed Mertesacker back though, they need FAITH

without BELIEVERS the Bremer Vaterstadt is nothing but a struggling Hanseatic city, its air filled with the smell of coffee

my dear Bremer, remember, you are more than mere coffee-makers, you are Europe's most attractive football town, you make the world dream

Gibt nicht auf zu traeumen nur weil ein paar Schwaben mal dem Glueck froehnten

Werder will become Bundesliga MEISTER

if I know as much in London, it's time you woke up to the inevitable as well

Keeping the faith is fine, I still have faith, and will never lose it when Werder is concerned. But even you can't possibly deny that we seriously are in a crisis now.

Just let us look at the results of the last few weeks. We go slaughtered 'auf' Schalke, were lucky not to have conceded more than those two goals. Then we embarassed ourselves in the cup, losing against a third division side, one of the worst results for Werder in the cup ever. A few days later, we lost against Chelsea in the CL, and now we lost against Stuttgart 2:3 at home, after leading 2:0.

Something went terribly wrong in the last few weeks, and needs to be fixed ASAP, otherwise we will be in for a rough ride in the next few months, and can forget about winning the Bundesliga.

anglophileHedgehog wrote:Lalala... So ein Tag, so wunderschön wie heute...

Lol, at least you had a nice Bundesliga day, Wiebke.

Torwart Enke trauert um Tochter
17. Sep 14:35, ergänzt 15:47


Seit ihrer Geburt litt Lara an Herzproblemen. Die kleine Tochter von Hannovers Torwart Robert Enke starb am Sonntag nach einer Operation.

Robert Enke vom Fußball-Bundesligisten Hannover 96 und Ehefrau Teresa trauern um Tochter Lara. Die Zweijährige starb am Sonntagmorgen in der medizinischen Hochschule Hannover, nachdem im Anschluss an eine Operation am Gehör Komplikationen aufgetreten waren. Das teilte Enkes Berater Jörg Neblung mit. Lara litt seit ihrer Geburt am «Hypoplastischen Linksherz-Syndrom», die linke Herzkammer war verkümmert.

Vor gut einem Jahr hatte das kleine Mädchen seine dritte Operation am offenen Herzen gut überstanden. Teresa und Robert Enke hatten seitdem Grund zu der Hoffnung, Lara würde ein normales Leben führen können. (nz)

Terrible.

Poor Enke, really feel sorry for him. My condolences.

<rose>

Bah, two years only, life can be so cruel sometimes. Rip lil girl

Hertha managed to beat a surprisingly weak Schalke 2:0 at home, so Effenberg's prediction earlier in this thread became reality. Hertha at the top of the league now.

Frankfurt finally managed to beat their bogey team Leverkusen 3:1 at home. A great week for them, after they thrashed Bröndby 4:0 in the UEFA cup.


All the matches of week 4:

Hertha - Schalke 2:0
Frankfurt - Leverkusen 3:1
Wolfsburg - Hannover 1:2
Nürnberg - Bochum 1:1
Bremen - Stuttgart 2:3
Dortmund - Hamburg 1:0
Bielefeld - Bayern 2:1
Aachen - Gladbach 4:2
Cottbus - Mainz 2:0


Pl. Club Games g. d. l. Goals Diff. Points
1 Hertha BSC 4 2 2 0 7:1 6 8
2 1. FC Nürnberg 4 2 2 0 5:1 4 8
3 Bayern München 4 2 1 1 5:3 2 7
4 Borussia Dortmund 4 2 1 1 5:4 1 7
Energie Cottbus 4 2 1 1 5:4 1 7
6 FC Schalke 04 4 2 1 1 4:3 1 7
7 Eintracht Frankfurt 4 1 3 0 5:3 2 6
8 Alemannia Aachen 4 2 0 2 7:6 1 6
9 Werder Bremen 4 2 0 2 8:8 0 6
10 Borussia M'gladbach 4 2 0 2 5:5 0 6
11 VfB Stuttgart 4 2 0 2 7:10 -3 6
12 1. FSV Mainz 05 4 1 2 1 4:5 -1 5
13 Bayer Leverkusen 4 1 1 2 6:6 0 4
14 Arminia Bielefeld 4 1 1 2 5:6 -1 4
15 Hamburger SV 4 0 3 1 4:5 -1 3
16 VfL Wolfsburg 4 0 3 1 2:3 -1 3
17 Hannover 96 4 1 0 3 4:12 -8 3
18 VfL Bochum 4 0 1 3 3:6 -3 1


The Bundesliga looks very unpredictable and therefore exciting this season. Even the mighty Bayern have slipped already. I still expect a very close title match.

thats awful about girl, hope they get through it all right.

Happened to one of our players a few years ago aswell.

What do you guys thinkg about the new improved Mexican Stuttgart? I think its going to be tough to make it to the top spots, but if there's two players to do it its them .

Well, as much as it hurts me to say this, but Stuttgart beat us at home this weekend. Since most experts and fans see us amongst the favourites for the title this season, you can imagine that this is quite an achievement for them.

Osario and Pardo still need to gel with the team, but their commitment and work rate alone have made Stuttgart stronger already, that's for sure. They have the right attitude as well, not like a lot of South Americans who unfortunately often lack discipline.

anglophilehedgehog, who is the Stuttgart fan on this board, can tell you more about this. But IMHO, the Pardo and Osario transfer was one of the best of the league this season.

blutgraetsche wrote:Well, as much as it hurts me to say this, but Stuttgart beat us at home this weekend. Since most experts and fans see us amongst the favourites for the title this season, you can imagine that this is quite an achievement for them.

Osario and Pardo still need to gel with the team, but their commitment and work rate alone have made Stuttgart stronger already, that's for sure. They have the right attitude as well, not like a lot of South Americans who unfortunately often lack discipline.

anglophilehedgehog, who is the Stuttgart fan on this board, can tell you more about this. But IMHO, the Pardo and Osario transfer was one of the best of the league this season.

Your team is also very good...don't worry. Remember last year you lost on the away goals rule in the CL. I forget against who.... Yeah just have some hope It was just a bad day for the favorites. Bayern Muchen lost too.

It was against the mighty Juventus. Yeah, good days, especially the match at home.

Thank you for the kind words, desperately needed these days...

I kind of feel bad for Juventus

Are they ever going to make it back to the Serie A?

Why? whats happened?

You were far and away the better team against us in the CL last year, then the gk decided to hand the ball to Emerson!

Good question. Their Serie B start could have been better at least, to put it mildly. Deschamps is a good coach though, so under normal circumstances, they should be able to make it back to Serie A. Time will tell.

To Werder I mean, not Juve

Hey compared to the EPL how is footbal in the Bundesliga?

Slower, more technical...

I haven't seen much of it because they just started showing it in Mexico thanks to Pavel and Osorio.