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    Post by Puro Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:52 pm

    1) Argentina, Brasil, Deutschland, España, Inglaterra, Italia, Países Bajos, South Africa,

    2) Australia, Honduras, Nippon, Korea DPR, México, New Zealand, South Korea, USA.

    3) Algeria, Cameroon, Chile, Cote d'Ivoire, Ghana, Nigeria, Paraguay, Uruguay.

    4) Danmark, France, Hellás, Portugal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Suisse.

    Dream for Argentina: Anyone in (2) except México, any Euro shite and even though France and Portugal aren't shite, them Argies will be happy to have them.
    Nightmare: Algeria, not quite Perú technique but could upset the Argies

    Dream for Brasil: The start of WC 2010 and its completion on time
    Nightmare: 2012 starts in Austral Winter 2010 Shocked Biggrin

    Dream for Deutschland: Anyone in (2) except México, USA, and Australia
    Nightmare: any in pot (3) except Cameroon possibly, and Danmark, France from (4)

    Dream for España: anyone in pot (2) except México, USA, Honduras
    Nightmare: any African team

    Dream for Inglaterra: its media convinces the whole world they're the best team, and there's no need for the world cup to be played. Biggrin
    Nightmare: The games must be played

    Dream for Italia: any in pot (2) except Australia, México and USA, any Euro shite except France and Portugal
    Nightmare: South America

    Dream for Países Bajos: Any Asian or New Zealand, any Euro shite except France and Portugal
    Nightmare: That the word gets spread out that they're SHITE! Biggrin

    Dream for South Africa: They're in LA LA LAND as it is.
    Nightmare: Getting KO in group stages but they may just get New Zealand or Korea DPR, will get the obvious South American, and one Euro shite.


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    Post by Fade out Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:56 pm

    Dream for France: Sack Dumbonech
    Nightmare for France: Get Ridiculed in WC2010.
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:33 pm

    The dream for me(England) would be North Korea, some nonsense south American team - lets say Paraguay, and Portugal(revenge, and they're there for the taking). <Ale>

    Nightmare would be Mexico, Ivory Coast, and Slovenia.
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    Post by A & K Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:27 am

    Laudable Laudrup wrote:Dream for France: Sack Dumbonech
    Nightmare for France: Get Ridiculed in WC2010.

    Yeah that summarizes everything for France. But the people are the FFF are so shite that they won't do anything. The best thing would be to put Laurent Blanc in charge for a few months, but of course they won't cuz they're old retarded fukers.
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    Post by Puro Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:11 am

    Kimbo wrote:The dream for me(England) would be North Korea, some nonsense south American team - lets say Paraguay, and Portugal(revenge, and they're there for the taking). <Ale>

    Nightmare would be Mexico, Ivory Coast, and Slovenia.

    It would be nice to see the expression on Capello's face IF he gets México or Australia, Ghana or Ivory Coast or any South American preferally the one with the most technique out of the three in Chile, and Portugal or France. Bye Bye! Biggrin
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    Post by Fey Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:28 am

    Países Bajos

    cheers

    Why should Holland fear France Puro? It's RVP vs Ribery, Benzeman, Nasi, Ben Arfa...its 4-1 you say....but its 4-1 for RVP like last year proved Very Happy

    Now that Holland is seeded they wont be in a real group of death, this is the world cup remember not the more difficult euros!
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:30 am

    If there's one thing that the world cup teaches us every 4 years, without fail, it's that there are only 2 SA teams worth worrying about. I would happily take Chile, Paraguay, AND Uruguay in our group.
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    Post by bluenine Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:14 am

    Kimbo wrote:If there's one thing that the world cup teaches us every 4 years, without fail, it's that there are only 2 SA teams worth worrying about. I would happily take Chile, Paraguay, AND Uruguay in our group.

    ....and only 3 european sides (Italy, Germany, & France) of any substance.... but then, historic trends are only indicators, my friend, they are never 100%...

    I am pretty sure that a group with 3 SA sides (if it were possible) would be a nightmare for Capello.
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    Post by bluenine Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:15 am

    For Italy,

    Dream: Totti, Nesta, & Cassano make the squad.

    Nightmare: The Confed cup squad is selected affraid
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:47 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:If there's one thing that the world cup teaches us every 4 years, without fail, it's that there are only 2 SA teams worth worrying about. I would happily take Chile, Paraguay, AND Uruguay in our group.

    ....and only 3 european sides (Italy, Germany, & France) of any substance.... but then, historic trends are only indicators, my friend, they are never 100%...

    I am pretty sure that a group with 3 SA sides (if it were possible) would be a nightmare for Capello.

    No, it's not the same at all. When was the last time one of "the rest" in SA made it to the quarter-finals?
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:55 pm

    Are you forgetting Uruguay? a team that has won more WCs than England, Netherlands and Portugal combined?
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:02 pm

    Kimbo wrote:The dream for me(England) would be North Korea, some nonsense south American team - lets say Paraguay, and Portugal(revenge, and they're there for the taking). <Ale>

    Nightmare would be Mexico, Ivory Coast, and Slovenia.

    I'd like us to face France in the groups!

    They'd be a big scalp to get on board early on.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:04 pm

    plus no Zidane to bail them out this time.
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    Post by Fey Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:05 pm

    No..but they still have: Benzeman, Ben Arfa, Nasi and Ribeye
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:06 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Are you forgetting Uruguay? a team that has won more WCs than England, Netherlands and Portugal combined?

    Well this is another problem i have, i don't really give a shit who won the world cup yonks ago, it has no baring on what will happen at this one, yet people insist on using ancient history to make their predictions. Germany and Argentina for example, it's 20 years since one of them won, get over it ffs.
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    Post by Fey Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:08 pm

    *SIGH* Germany that NEVER won a world cup

    West-Germany did...that country was very succesfull also outside football. Germany is not.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:13 pm

    Big mistake to let all those commies in the squad...
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    Post by Fade out Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:16 pm

    Fey wrote:No..but they still have: Benzeman, Ben Arfa, Nasi and Ribeye

    Doh

    None of them feature in Dumbonech's plans.

    As dont Frey, Mexes, Menez, Ceyrou, etc.

    High time you realize that to beat us is to kick a dead horse. Neutral
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:17 pm

    puro

    there is NO nightmare scenario for Germany

    in the group stage

    Germany love playing France, have no problem with Mexico, African countries...

    the only two countries who have our number are

    Brazil and Italy

    which is why I don't want to meet them before the Final

    the rest tend to roll over when the Mannschaft plays
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:18 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Are you forgetting Uruguay? a team that has won more WCs than England, Netherlands and Portugal combined?

    Well this is another problem i have, i don't really give a shit who won the world cup yonks ago, it has no baring on what will happen at this one, yet people insist on using ancient history to make their predictions. Germany and Argentina for example, it's 20 years since one of them won, get over it ffs.

    So the WC only started when you were born?

    Technically you could claim that none of the previous world cups have a bearing on this one.

    In 2006 Italy had won the WC for 24 years...
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:20 pm

    Laudable Laudrup wrote:
    Fey wrote:No..but they still have: Benzeman, Ben Arfa, Nasi and Ribeye

    Doh

    None of them feature in Dumbonech's plans.

    As dont Frey, Mexes, Menez, Ceyrou, etc.

    High time you realize that to beat us is to kick a dead horse. Neutral

    I imagine we can make a good side of players who aren't selected to go to the WC. Argentina, Italy and France seem set to leave out some of their best players.
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    Post by Fade out Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:25 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
    Laudable Laudrup wrote:
    Fey wrote:No..but they still have: Benzeman, Ben Arfa, Nasi and Ribeye

    Doh

    None of them feature in Dumbonech's plans.

    As dont Frey, Mexes, Menez, Ceyrou, etc.

    High time you realize that to beat us is to kick a dead horse. Neutral

    I imagine we can make a good side of players who aren't selected to go to the WC. Argentina, Italy and France seem set to leave out some of their best players.

    You could Brazil to that?

    Except both Lippi and Dunga know what they are doing. Maradona and Dumbonech don't.
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:26 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Are you forgetting Uruguay? a team that has won more WCs than England, Netherlands and Portugal combined?

    Well this is another problem i have, i don't really give a shit who won the world cup yonks ago, it has no baring on what will happen at this one, yet people insist on using ancient history to make their predictions. Germany and Argentina for example, it's 20 years since one of them won, get over it ffs.

    So the WC only started when you were born?

    Technically you could claim that none of the previous world cups have a bearing on this one.

    In 2006 Italy had won the WC for 24 years...

    Yes, and Spain might win it for the first time in their history, so what? My point is some seem to think the only contenders are countries that have won it more than once, no matter how long ago. It's 100% bullshit.
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    Post by Fey Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:26 pm

    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:puro

    there is NO nightmare scenario for Germany

    in the group stage

    Germany love playing France, have no problem with Mexico, African countries...

    the only two countries who have our number are

    Brazil and Italy

    which is why I don't want to meet them before the Final

    the rest tend to roll over when the Mannschaft plays

    Neckermann, could you tell me

    why there is ZERO rivalry between France and Germany?

    Knowing the history between you two, and even in football there have been a few moments (we all remember Schumacher). This should be the best rivalry in Europe, yet it is not.

    Is it because you both run the EU now and let other nations pay for it? Or is it because of Allez?
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:28 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Are you forgetting Uruguay? a team that has won more WCs than England, Netherlands and Portugal combined?

    Well this is another problem i have, i don't really give a shit who won the world cup yonks ago, it has no baring on what will happen at this one, yet people insist on using ancient history to make their predictions. Germany and Argentina for example, it's 20 years since one of them won, get over it ffs.

    So the WC only started when you were born?

    Technically you could claim that none of the previous world cups have a bearing on this one.

    In 2006 Italy had won the WC for 24 years...

    Yes, and Spain might win it for the first time in their history, so what? My point is some seem to think the only contenders are countries that have won it more than once, no matter how long ago. It's 100% bullshit.

    big 4 + hosts has never failed us.
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    Post by Fade out Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:29 pm

    Big 4? Italy, Germany, Brazil...and? Argentina?
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:36 pm

    fey

    France has never been much of a threat to us in the past

    even if we had titanic battles

    in the end, we almost always won

    for the Frenchies though, a defeat over arch-enemy Germany is still the biggest scalp

    1982 and 1986 still hurt

    ditto 1870, 1914-18, 1940-45

    as for the German-French relationship now:

    the Frogs can still be annoying

    but mostly, we are friends now

    WE have the Kultur and Money, THEY have the MANNERS, Fashion and SEnse of POWER

    a good combo , says I

    fey

    STOP that "Germany run the EU and let others pay for it nonsense"

    the Germans are RIDICULOUSLY low key in Europe and let others run rings around them

    they always have

    frankly, MERKEL should show her East German teeth now

    but REFUSES to

    even the left-wing ZEIT is now getting fed up with Merkel over her refusal to STAND UP for German interests

    just look at how many Germans have managed to land top posts in the EU, UN, NATO, World Bank.... over the past 60 or even 10 years

    NADA

    NOTHING

    we even gave up our beloved MARK

    Grr
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    Post by Fade out Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:37 pm

    but mostly, we are friends now

    WE have the Kultur and Money, THEY have the MANNERS, Fashion and SEnse of POWER

    a good combo , says I

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