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    Post by Football Genius Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:49 pm

    So based upon watching the evidence, yanks were impressed by the french national team?

    The french weren't impressed by their own national team however the yanks are... interesting.
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    Post by L r dd Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:51 pm

    Think you've misread something somewhere
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:52 pm

    L r dd wrote:Hope to avoid france, mexico and peru for sure. Be nice to get the USA come to think of it. Will be a big event there and it'll be nice to whoop their asses

    I think Venuzuela are the ones to avoid from the SA teams.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:53 pm

    Puro wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    You know nothing about the French, they're scared of everyone.

    Yeah I know Kimbo bro, that's how the British Brainwashing Corporation (but you all good English pay for that!), and the American-Anglo faction here in the USA have painted the French. Nevertheless, a lot of people don't buy that BS anymore and actually see the French to have more balls than the English. True story Kimbo, bro. Just an observation. <Ale>

    Listen Yankee boy, the French have been scared since before the BBC and Yankeeland existed.
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    Post by Puro Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:54 pm

    L r dd wrote:Hope to avoid france, mexico and peru for sure. Be nice to get the USA come to think of it. Will be a big event there and it'll be nice to whoop their asses

    Good day LRD homeboy! A USA-England match in a WC would be awesome indeed. Here's the chance for our boys to erase all them recent losses in the friendlies against good old England with one shot. And, what better stage than a WC game, hopefully the last group match, and eliminate England sending them home just like in 1950. Like Murray says, "history rhymes". Biggrin <Ale>

    Good luck to England LRD homeboy! My Scottish and Irish friends can't wait to watch them England games at the WC. In WC 2006 I asked them, you're not in the WC, who do you support? they said "anyone playing England". Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:00 pm

    Puro wrote:
    L r dd wrote:Hope to avoid france, mexico and peru for sure. Be nice to get the USA come to think of it. Will be a big event there and it'll be nice to whoop their asses

    Good day LRD homeboy! A USA-England match in a WC would be awesome indeed. Here's the chance for our boys to erase all them recent losses in the friendlies against good old England with one shot. And, what better stage than a WC game, hopefully the last group match, and eliminate England sending them home just like in 1950. Like Murray says, "history rhymes". Biggrin <Ale>

    Good luck to England LRD homeboy! My Scottish and Irish friends can't wait to watch them England games at the WC. In WC 2006 I asked them, you're not in the WC, who do you support? they said "anyone playing England". Biggrin <Ale>

    Yes that's typical of them, the scots are a bunch of hypocrites. The old firm hate England, but they want to play in our league, the scots hate England, but refuse to go indepedent. They're such an ungrateful species. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Puro Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:14 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Yes that's typical of them, the scots are a bunch of hypocrites. The old firm hate England, but they want to play in our league, the scots hate England, but refuse to go indepedent. They're such an ungrateful species. Rolling Eyes

    I see absolutely nothing wrong with a rivalry with lots of sauce. It's just like them Ecuadorians and Chileans, they support anyone playing Perú.
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    Post by Brian2468 Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:25 pm

    Wish there were no seeding rounds would make for a more interesting world cup. Shame Peru never made it again.

    France have the players to beat any team I would rather them play Brazil first.
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    Post by Puro Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:14 pm

    Looks like Eric Wynalda's loving the draw, he said "no disrespect to England, but this is the best, the ideal group we've ever drawn. Algeria may give us some problems with their technique, but this is the ideal group for us".

    I'm glad the USA will be fired up for England FFS! Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:35 pm

    Puro wrote:Looks like Eric Wynalda's loving the draw, he said "no disrespect to England, but this is the best, the ideal group we've ever drawn. Algeria may give us some problems with their technique, but this is the ideal group for us".

    I'm glad the USA will be fired up for England FFS! Biggrin <Ale>

    It's a good group for the USA and Slovenia, 2nd is wide open for them.

    Apparently as soon as the draw was made Alexei Lalas declared the USA would beat England. And people complain about English pundits. <Ale>
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    Post by Puro Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:47 am

    Kimbo wrote:
    It's a good group for the USA and Slovenia, 2nd is wide open for them.

    Apparently as soon as the draw was made Alexei Lalas declared the USA would beat England. And people complain about English pundits. <Ale>

    An English journo asked Bob Bradley if he was afraid of England (FFS! what kind of a question was that! Laugh ), and Bradley almost burst into laughter but politely said "not at all". Biggrin <Ale>

    Bradley is very concerned about facing Algeria though. I'm sure it's that technique that will cause our team problems (just like every South American almost always beat the USA), Bradley and the USA must start the WC fast with a win in order to play Algeria already qualified to the KO stages. <Ale>


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    Post by christmasborocooper Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:49 am

    No point being scared of something you cant control. He knows defeat is on its way, why worry.
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    Post by Brian2468 Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:54 am

    They all get paid well no need to be scared.

    We can let USA knock out Germany for us later.
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:29 am

    I'm sure the fact we dominated them in our last game doesn't concern them at all. No, they would much rather remind themselves of 1950, that's much more relevant.
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    Post by Puro Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:47 am

    Kimbo wrote:I'm sure the fact we dominated them in our last game doesn't concern them at all. No, they would much rather remind themselves of 1950, that's much more relevant.

    1950 was much much much relevant than any friendly played, and yes! the spirit of 1950 will be brought up forward to motivate the players. If a bunch of American amateurs were able to beat the so called "best team on the planet" (by the English media themselves Laugh ) I'd be surprised that the professionals of today are not capable of beating "7 or 8 world class players plus Rooney". I've already heard several American players "we'll be ready for them" Whoop

    On another note, what's up with Capello? First he told SKY that he was very happy with the group, but later on to RAI he said more calmly to his compatriots "it's gonna be difficult, people think it's an easy group, but it's gonna be very difficult" (how's my Italian?). Whoop

    USA! USA! USA! cheers

    Come on Algeria, they ain't got nothing but overrated, overhyped by their own media talentless hoofers!
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:35 am

    You think the American players are going to say they arent ready?

    You surely arent that stupid.
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:10 pm

    borocooper wrote:You think the American players are going to say they arent ready?

    You surely arent that stupid.

    The more overconfident the Americans are the easier it will be for us. I love the fact they see it as a very winnable game. Ale
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    Post by Fey Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:27 pm

    What justifies the hype of England-US? Yesterday one could hear ''Ooohhh's'' after US got in the England group...like it was England-Germany with Holland and France already in that group.

    What has the USA done that justifies this? Its just cause both are English speaking countries and usually have anal sex with each other and suddenly now its Football v Soccer it becomes like the greatest game ever.

    Its gonna be 3-0 for England ffs! Yeah USA beat them before, but Hitler's body wasnt even cold back then!
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:34 pm

    Fey wrote:What justifies the hype of England-US? Yesterday one could hear ''Ooohhh's'' after US got in the England group...like it was England-Germany with Holland and France already in that group.

    What has the USA done that justifies this? Its just cause both are English speaking countries and usually have anal sex with each other and suddenly now its Football v Soccer it becomes like the greatest game ever.

    Its gonna be 3-0 for England ffs! Yeah USA beat them before, but Hitler's body wasnt even cold back then!

    Nothing really. As a rivalry it is nothing to England, but for the USA it is a chance him to beat his father. We're Darth Vader, he's bitch skywalker. The problem for us is the repercussions of losing, look how often they bring up 1950, it's still their football highlight, i'd rather we didn't give them another one.
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    Post by Fey Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:47 pm

    Why is that their highlight?I mean the did well in 2002 hosted in 1994 beat Spain last summer...why a win over England in the 50`ffs as highlight.
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:52 pm

    Fey wrote:Why is that their highlight?I mean the did well in 2002 hosted in 1994 beat Spain last summer...why a win over England in the 50`ffs as highlight.

    Because they don't like us i suppose.
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    Post by Brian2468 Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:05 pm

    Major Hype thats all. Oh we're playing England crank up the noise it can only be good for getting people interested more in soccer over there.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:11 pm

    Fey wrote:Why is that their highlight?I mean the did well in 2002 hosted in 1994 beat Spain last summer...why a win over England in the 50`ffs as highlight.


    fey, that game in Brazil was maybe the most humiliating game of WC history. England didn't play WCs because they were above other countries and because they didn't like to play in the summer (how gay is that?).

    and then they decide to present the world with their superior football in teh Brazilian winter. they face an amateur american team from a small USA town and they lose. how ridiculous is that?
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:32 pm

    Yeah it was so embarassing, all of us 90 year olds remember sitting around our TV sets made out of stone watchng the game unravel. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by mongrel hawk Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:56 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Yeah it was so embarassing, all of us 90 year olds remember sitting around our TV sets made out of stone watchng the game unravel. Rolling Eyes

    I bet you also remember very well the last time you reached the final of a major tournment that wasn't held at home. ok
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:09 pm

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    Kimbo wrote:Yeah it was so embarassing, all of us 90 year olds remember sitting around our TV sets made out of stone watchng the game unravel. Rolling Eyes

    I bet you also remember very well the last time you reached the final of a major tournment that wasn't held at home. ok

    I've seen my team play in 2 FA Cup finals. Thanks. <Ale>
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    Post by Brian2468 Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:23 pm

    Brazil have the same chance of losing to the Ivory Coast as England losing to the USA.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:15 pm

    Brian2468 wrote:Brazil have the same chance of losing to the Ivory Coast as England losing to the USA.

    True. I don't think USA will win, and England should top the group and may reach the semis. I think they won't go further though. But if England lose to the USA, I think England will fade away due to the psychological damage. England should see this game as the key to have a good world cup and try to win it. They should play it like a final.


    If I had to try to predict, I'd say England will lose to Brazil in the semis, and then Brazil will lose to Argentina in the final (though Brazil may fall before that, taking into account the risk of facing Spain, Holland and Italy before the semis). I really believe Argentina will have a great world cup. They'd be my bet to win it.
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    Post by Brian2468 Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:56 am

    In truth I have to study up on this Brazil team. Going into the WC Spain who never lived up to expectations in the past have moved past this mental block in my opinion having won the euros where you meet teams with high ability quickly. The WC for them could very well be the time where every country in the world focuses on Spain first before Brazil for being the new football hierarchy country.

    Argentina plays like Spain without a systematic game plan yes they have Messi he is a great player but in todays game one player will not win the World Cup anymore.

    France you worry about this team that beat you in 98. Not worth worrying about. I like them also they have to get on track first before giving them to much respect.

    Holland oh please! Spain showed us the way in the euros how true underdogs can rightfully go all the way if you have the mature talent. I see them there at the end also.

    Italy not this world cup sorry your flying to low any of the above teams will beat you on the day. France were the better side in the last final .

    Germany Ah. Ha.......Fucking wankers! they will find a way to stick their heads up and say we're still here!!!! you cannot get rid of them cockroaches they adapt so well none the less like Italy your going to fall later.

    England. they are written off talent wise. They make my list on one condition.. Capello and I'm English... But hey you read this far so listen up as it cannot be anything worse than what Puro posts.

    Time for all out war in piece time, inside every english player they need to hear drums beating.
    Drums cuts out outside noise they also can drive you on.
    Capello needs two more drummers in midfield for us to carry the squad into the semi final in 2010 thats all.

    Hargreaves 100% fit is a drummer most likely will not make it

    Barry....... 15 % drummer

    Lampard......15% drummer

    Gerrard......15% drummer

    Give me 2 english players that are quick and brake up plays.????

    Capello the smart guy he is uses Barry and Lampard mostly.

    Barry 15% plays left central in front of Cole left back. Cole's speed adds 75% cover for Barry in his position. Barry makes a drummer in the Team.

    Barry with Man City with Wayne Bridge behind stays 15% player....bad against top teams.

    Lampard......... 15% right midfield problem Johnson cannot cover midfielder yet 50% of the time.

    Against the top sides in the WC England need to sort these positions out.

    Is there options.

    Capello relies on Gerrard while Joe Cole has been injured I like Gerrard in a front role for the team also knowing he could pay inside right better than Lampard. I hate to say this but both players need to be in the top team unless we have 2 100% drummers in the squad.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:57 pm

    lol!

    good post.

    well, we need some samba pandeiros to carry us to the final.

    robinho hears no pandeiros, the c**t. he must be kicked out for good. nilmar or adriano or ronaldinho in his place now.

    there's no place in midfield for ronaldinho, but how would he fit as a second striker? I think nicely. that c**t can hear the pandeiro. ok

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