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    Post by Fade out Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:36 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:I think it was Daniel Finkelstein (Chelsea fan) in The Times who worked out that Rafa was the best performing manager of the big 4 in recent times in relation to wage bill - so Rafa should be congratulated on doing a great job.

    lol!
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    Post by COTR Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:37 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:I think it was Daniel Finkelstein (Chelsea fan) in The Times who worked out that Rafa was the best performing manager of the big 4 in recent times in relation to wage bill - so Rafa should be congratulated on doing a great job.

    This is dismal though and shows no real sign of improvement - he needs to go and let the Murdoch group get the 4-4-2, its all about Stevie G and Torres man that they want.

    Dismal this season but great performance overall - hope he gets one of the top jobs in Spain.

    He has had an excellent 4 or 5 years since he joined us but this team is dead and the only way to fix it is to get rid of his favourite players which is obviously never going to happen


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    Post by TheCrazy58 Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:38 pm

    COTR #6 wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:I think it was Daniel Finkelstein (Chelsea fan) in The Times who worked out that Rafa was the best performing manager of the big 4 in recent times in relation to wage bill - so Rafa should be congratulated on doing a great job.

    This is dismal though and shows no real sign of improvement - he needs to go and let the Murdoch group get the 4-4-2, its all about Stevie G and Torres man that they want.

    Dismal this season but great performance overall - hope he gets one of the top jobs in Spain.

    He has had an excellent 4 or 5 years since he joined us but this team is dead and the only way to fix it is to get rid of his favourite players which is obviously never going to happen


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    Post by Kimbo Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:39 pm

    What exactly has changed since last season, surely Arbeloa and Alonso weren't THAT important? Fuck me! Shocked
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:39 pm

    Laudable Laudrup wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:I think it was Daniel Finkelstein (Chelsea fan) in The Times who worked out that Rafa was the best performing manager of the big 4 in recent times in relation to wage bill - so Rafa should be congratulated on doing a great job.

    lol!

    I've acknowledged that he's been shit this season scratch

    Still did a great job though - they were the best team in The Premier League 2008/2009 season.

    Best team in Europe 2005, best team in EPL 2009 - thats surely reaching his targets befoire he joined.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:40 pm

    Laudable Laudrup wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:I think it was Daniel Finkelstein (Chelsea fan) in The Times who worked out that Rafa was the best performing manager of the big 4 in recent times in relation to wage bill - so Rafa should be congratulated on doing a great job.

    lol!

    Rafa had his 200th EPL game recently and statistically he was miles ahead of any other manager with regards points/wins from their first 200 PL games.

    This season has been horrible though and there aren't many excuses that will wash with me.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:41 pm

    Kimbo wrote:What exactly has changed since last season, surely Arbeloa and Alonso weren't THAT important? Fuck me! Shocked

    To be fair - if you're clearly the best team in the league but don't get the trophy for reasons I think we've been through time and again on here, its going to demotivate your squad for the following season.

    They should never have capitulated like this though and that has to be the manager's fault.
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:41 pm

    Exactly we're stuck with him till the end of the season unless he resigns.
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    Post by Luis Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:42 pm

    Gutless, spineless, no flair, no ability. Load of shite, the team have let the fans down badly and Rafa has lost the dressing room. Spearing centre mid for the next 4 games as when Torres is fit Rafa doesn't give a shit about any other strikers no matter how poor our midfield is.
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    Post by COTR Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:43 pm

    Kimbo wrote:What exactly has changed since last season, surely Arbeloa and Alonso weren't THAT important? Fuck me! Shocked

    How on earth can you say Alonso was not that important. He dictated everything we did and was our best player last season.

    Instead we add another non creative player to the mix in Lucas which only exposes the lack of creativity in the rest of the midfield with Kuyt suffering the most because the pressure is now on him to actually do something other than run up and down the right wing as many times as possible.

    As soon as Alonso was sold I said in the Real thread our season was over and it has been proven correct although I did not expect it to be this depressing.


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    Post by stinger Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:45 pm

    Fulham v Man Utd line-ups:
    Fulham: Schwarzer, Pantsil, Hughes, Hangeland, Konchesky, Duff, Murphy, Baird, Gera, Dempsey, Zamora.
    Subs: Zuberbuhler, Nevland, Riise, Etuhu, Smalling, Greening, Dikgacoi.

    Man Utd: Kuszczak, Fletcher, De Laet, Carrick, Evra, Valencia, Scholes, Anderson, Gibson, Owen, Rooney.
    Subs: Foster, Berbatov, Park, Tosic, Welbeck, Fabio Da Silva, Obertan.
    Yikes, poooor Kuszczak, will have a busy afternoon with this line.
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:46 pm

    COTR #6 wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:What exactly has changed since last season, surely Arbeloa and Alonso weren't THAT important? Fuck me! Shocked

    How on earth can you say Alonso was not that important. He dictated everything we did and was our best player last season.

    Instead we add another non creative player to the mix in Lucas which only exposes the lack of creativity in the rest of the midfield with Kuyt suffering the most because the pressure is now on him to actually do something other than run up and down the right wing as many times as possible.

    As soon as Alonso was sold I said in the Real thread our season was over and it has been proven correct although I did expect it to be this depressing.

    I know he was important, i just didn't know he was the difference between being one of the best teams in europe and being Englands whipping boy.

    Much like Murray, you've missed the point again Paddy. <Ale>
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    Post by Brian2468 Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:49 pm

    Writing was on the wall for some time if one player you think made all the difference it shows just how bad the club is.
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    Post by Brian2468 Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:52 pm

    United maybe playing 3-5-2 today..... Very Happy
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    Post by Fade out Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:53 pm

    Rafa has made a Pool of carcass. Humiliating state. No
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    Post by debaser Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:54 pm

    Brian2468 wrote:United maybe playing 3-5-2 today..... Very Happy

    Liverpool should play 3-5-2

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    Post by Brian2468 Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:00 pm

    debethlehem wrote:
    Brian2468 wrote:United maybe playing 3-5-2 today..... Very Happy

    Liverpool should play 3-5-2

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    ok

    Okay lets see how the rest of the games go today. Liverpool might get some luck from other clubs not down well... Suspect
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    Post by stinger Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:18 pm

    1445: We have unconfirmed reports that a certain Mr Roberto Mancini is at the City of Manchester Stadium today to watch them take on Sunderland. This morning, he was linked with the job with Mark Hughes widely thought to be on his way out. Keep you posted
    City is already 2-0 up, first goal scored by Santa Cruz after Bellamy's pass, second one by Tevez from penalty spot, after Bellamy was fouled (soft one for me). Maybe Mancini will replace Bruce Smile.

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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:23 pm

    Danny Murphy cheers

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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:25 pm

    Manchester City 2-2 Sunderland Crazy
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    Post by Fade out Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:26 pm

    50m defence, was it?
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    Post by debaser Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:27 pm

    Glenn the Christmas Hysén wrote:Manchester City 2-2 Sunderland Crazy

    Man City lol!
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:27 pm

    not really, City's defence is Zabaleta Onuoha Toure Sylvinho
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    Post by stinger Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:29 pm

    Laudable Laudrup wrote:50m defence, was it?
    Today biggest chunk of 50m is not playing, but still lol!

    Great finish by Henderson to tie the game, Given barely survived to not be hit with this explosive shot, he could be easily injured Laugh
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    Post by MightyBarca Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:30 pm

    Man Utd are shit.

    Liverpool are shit.

    Man City are shit.

    Arsenal are ok

    Chelsea are ok

    Villa and spurs are good Ale
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    Post by Dwarf Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:31 pm

    Hughes going out with a bang, will presumably draw 5-5 today.
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    Post by debaser Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:33 pm

    Stoke goal disallowed for foul. Close call.
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    Post by Brian2468 Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:36 pm

    Anderson and Scholes are playing crap maybe because the formation. Evra cannot be as effective either could all change
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:37 pm

    Manchester City 3-2 Sunderland Crazy
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    Post by stinger Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:38 pm

    Bellamy <Ale>
    I don't like bastard, but he is very effective since his big money transfer from West Ham.

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