Manager of the Decade

another decade thread...

pick who you think was the best manager this decade, and give your reasons.

(sorry if i missed out anyone)

Ryan Giggs.

Manucho

Pep Guardiola isn't is obvious

He has won everything the he can win in only one season,which manager this decade can show such a record, may guess is none

I voted for Slur Alex, what Mourinho did at Porto was very impressive though, he is a close 2nd.

no pep WTF, he is already a better coach the like likes of

Domenech
Houllier
Irueta

and has already schooled jose and SAF and came out on the levels with hiddink

its an out rage and out rage

Wenger could run it close with that 49 unbeaten run, and the fact that the team then was brilliant. But probably Ferguson.

The decade goes from 2001-2010. Just saying.

Messiah wrote:no pep WTF, he is already a better coach the like likes of

Domenech
Houllier
Irueta

and has already schooled jose and SAF and came out on the levels with hiddink

its an out rage and out rage

I'd like to see Pep turn Deportivo into league champions and CL quarter finalists.

Santi Claus wrote:

Messiah wrote:no pep WTF, he is already a better coach the like likes of

Domenech
Houllier
Irueta

and has already schooled jose and SAF and came out on the levels with hiddink

its an out rage and out rage

I'd like to see Pep turn Deportivo into league champions and CL quarter finalists.

yeah after posting i was like iruelta shouldn't be their, but pep is still a better coach than him, is wasn't depor back then it was SUPER DEPOR.

I'd like to see any manager no what pep did even with this barca squad, just saying he should be their

The fact he walked into a job with the best squad in the world will count against him. I'm sure he's a good coach, but to be great you've got to show you can turn losers into winners.

Messiah wrote:

Santi Claus wrote:

Messiah wrote:no pep WTF, he is already a better coach the like likes of

Domenech
Houllier
Irueta

and has already schooled jose and SAF and came out on the levels with hiddink

its an out rage and out rage

I'd like to see Pep turn Deportivo into league champions and CL quarter finalists.

yeah after posting i was like iruelta shouldn't be their, but pep is still a better coach than him, is wasn't depor back then it was SUPER DEPOR.

I'd like to see any manager no what pep did even with this barca squad, just saying he should be their

Pep's accomplishments are, obviously, noteworthy. But I think to be considered a great manager you have to have success in more than one setting and prove yourself over time. What if Barcelona win zero trophies next year? Or what if Pep doesn't win anything again (not likely but it's possible).

all of those coaches has had some of the best players in the world to work with, i guess Scolari shouldn't be their because he had ronaldo,dinho and rivaldo to work with or DB who had the likes of figo,zidane and ronaldo

i said it in another trend all top managers have one thing in common, they all have some of the best players in the world to work with.

yet its is used against pep and rijkaard every time a manager argument comes up, i'm not say their are the best, but they are among the best for accomplishing what they did.

Messiah wrote:all of those coaches has had some of the best players in the world to work with, i guess Scolari shouldn't be their because he had ronaldo,dinho and rivaldo to work with or DB who had the likes of figo,zidane and ronaldo

i said it in another trend all top managers have one thing in common, they all have some of the best players in the world to work with.

yet its is used against pep and rijkaard every time a manager argument comes up, i'm not say their are the best, but they are among the best for accomplishing what they did.

Some of those coaches have proven themselves without great players though. Also there is a difference between having some great players and have by far the best squad in football.

I think the argument against Rijkaard is that he has not had success in any of his other managerial ventures aside from Barcelona. If both he and Pep prove they can have success in different scenarios then I think you can put them in the same category as Capello, SAF, Mourinho, etc.

I went for Benitez.

He is level with Mourinho:

CL: 1 each

UEFA Cup: 1 each

Credible league titles in very good leagues: 2


Benitez won twice with Valencia when La Liga was the best - Mourinho won twice with Chelsea when EPL was the best.

I guess Valencia were 3rd or 4th in Spain in terms of budget ?

Chelsea were comfortably 1st I should think.

Benitez has returned to CL final to prove its no fluke unlike Mourinho plus he has twice pwned Mourinho in HUGE head to heads - CL semi's 05' & 07'.

The maulings of Sir Alex last season + creating the best side in The EPL (no trophy admittedly but we all know why) 2008/2009 seal it.

Shit this season but best of the decade

I'm pretty sure Rafa's time at Pool should count against him.

Kimbo wrote:I'm pretty sure Rafa's time at Pool should count against him.

A CL win, a CL final and having the best team 2008/2009 ?

Hardly !

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Kimbo wrote:I'm pretty sure Rafa's time at Pool should count against him.

A CL win, a CL final and having the best team 2008/2009 ?

Hardly !

They've never had the best team, not once have i seen them as serious title contenders.

Kimbo wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Kimbo wrote:I'm pretty sure Rafa's time at Pool should count against him.

A CL win, a CL final and having the best team 2008/2009 ?

Hardly !

They've never had the best team, not once have i seen them as serious title contenders.

You didn't see them as serious contenders last season ?!

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Kimbo wrote:I'm pretty sure Rafa's time at Pool should count against him.

A CL win, a CL final and having the best team 2008/2009 ?

Hardly !

They've never had the best team, not once have i seen them as serious title contenders.

You didn't see them as serious contenders last season ?!

Never.

Kimbo wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Kimbo wrote:I'm pretty sure Rafa's time at Pool should count against him.

A CL win, a CL final and having the best team 2008/2009 ?

Hardly !

They've never had the best team, not once have i seen them as serious title contenders.

You didn't see them as serious contenders last season ?!

Never.

I could understand people saying they weren't contenders '05, '06, '07 and '08 but I doubt even the most committed United fan didn't believe they were serious contenders last season - if they were being honest.

Even if you think they challenged, so what? We've challenged aswell, you don't get anything for it other than CL money.

Kimbo wrote:Even if you think they challenged, so what? We've challenged aswell, you don't get anything for it other than CL money.

No, but I've explained numerous times why they didn't win it.

Effenberg wrote:The decade goes from 2001-2010. Just saying.

2000-2009

And sorry for missing out Pep and Rijkaard

Voted for S.A.F because of all he has accomplished with M.U over this decade. Man utd has probably been the most constant team over the decade. Other big teams (Barcelona, Madrid, Liverpool, Arsenal, Milan, Inter, etc) have had ups and down.

Even though I am an Arsenal fan and hate old beetroot face, I think this decade should surely belong to Alex Ferguson. He built two different teams of league winners. Add a CL and a CL runners up medal and you have the complete picture. He might have been bettered in a year or two, but over a decade it is tough to see anyone past him.

Kimbo wrote:

Messiah wrote:all of those coaches has had some of the best players in the world to work with, i guess Scolari shouldn't be their because he had ronaldo,dinho and rivaldo to work with or DB who had the likes of figo,zidane and ronaldo

i said it in another trend all top managers have one thing in common, they all have some of the best players in the world to work with.

yet its is used against pep and rijkaard every time a manager argument comes up, i'm not say their are the best, but they are among the best for accomplishing what they did.

Some of those coaches have proven themselves without great players though. Also there is a difference between having some great players and have by far the best squad in football.

That's not necessarily true...before last season started I wouldn't have called Barcelona's squad the best by far. Chelsea, Inter, Man. Utd. all had comparable squads. It's down to the coach to employ the right combination of tactics (formation, playing style) and man-management (motivation, knowing how to handle each individual player) to bring out the best in each player, make them work as a team, and hence create the best squad. It's obvious that strength on paper doesn't translate to strength on the pitch.


Anyway, it's ridiculous to vote for Guardiola as he only had success in the last year of the decade. IMO Ferguson has to be the automatic choice, with Mourinho getting 2nd and Ancelotti tied with Lippi for 3rd. Wenger, Benitez, Hitzfeld are probably next.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Kimbo wrote:I'm pretty sure Rafa's time at Pool should count against him.

A CL win, a CL final and having the best team 2008/2009 ?

Hardly !

Tell me what 'best team' wins zilch?

I guess maybe they had an overload of fixtures, and had to battle on numerous fronts, while the other could concentrate fully on one competition....

Oh wait

Must have been that ref conspiracy which saw 10 sendings off for the teams that faced the 'best team' while reciecing a generous 8 or so pens as well.

Best manage of the decade Rafa how am i still in a job Benitez.

I don't think so son.

Glad you view a cl win and cl final highly though....surely when you add in 6 'best teams' and countless other cups you'll switch your vote?

I was thinking jose, then i thought apart from his fluke CL win, he has only manage to win league titles when he has by far the best squad and the most money to spend in England and Italy, not too sure about his Porto days, but i doubt their was a better squad in Portugal at the time.

one of the most overrated managers of the decade if you ask me.

Its

between SAF,Capello or Hitzfeld