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    Post by Luis Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:36 pm

    The fella on the right...

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    Inter Milan midfielder Patrick Vieira is expected to undergo a medical at Manchester City on Thursday, BBC Sport understands.


    How will he do in his second spell back in England?
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    Post by debaser Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:41 pm

    Strikes me more of a squad strengthening signing, not sure he'll hold down a first-team spot - 'specially if he keeps having injury problems. So in that respect, I think his second spell will be underwhelming.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:43 pm

    debaser wrote:Strikes me more of a squad strengthening signing, not sure he'll hold down a first-team spot - 'specially if he keeps having injury problems. So in that respect, I think his second spell will be underwhelming.

    I actually think Mancini will make the mistake of dropping the in form De Jong for Vieria, which will weaken them.
    He's bound to have his good games though.
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    Post by Luis Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:44 pm

    Vieria was my favourite Arsenal player after Dennis Bergkamp although he comes across as a bit of a bitch in his autobiography, still though I want him to do well as long as City finish below us Smile
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    Post by Aristoskank Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:46 pm

    He's better than when he left the EPL, and will be a revelation.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:46 pm

    reportedly earning £140k a week Shocked

    presumably he's signed as an experienced squad player, can only be a good move IMO, he's the sort of player who wont disrupt the dressing room, can pass on experience and will probably attract younger players of a similar stature in the way that the likes of Barry and de Jong wouldn't.
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:54 pm

    Isn't he always injured these days?
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:59 pm

    A "hasbeen" bought by "wannabees" Ale
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    Post by stinger Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:57 pm

    He won't do very well as a player, but will be very important with his leadership skills, as well as knowing Mancini already. I can see him helping MCity individuals helping gel as a team, they didn't have somebody like him. Toure was probably the closest example, but he's not Vieira in this aspect.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:25 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    debaser wrote:Strikes me more of a squad strengthening signing, not sure he'll hold down a first-team spot - 'specially if he keeps having injury problems. So in that respect, I think his second spell will be underwhelming.

    I actually think Mancini will make the mistake of dropping the in form De Jong for Vieria, which will weaken them.
    He's bound to have his good games though.

    ok

    Very good player but like Roy Keane he didn't play regularly in an EPL that was the best league in Europe (04/05 onwards).
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:27 pm

    I think he could be a great buy, he isnt going to cost much but brings great experiance and will be eager to do well with the world cup coming up. I dont see him playing every game but he will help the other players and could be key away from home playing alongside de jong. He has had his injury problems and hasnt been a regular over the last year so the jury will be out but i think its worth the risk.
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    Post by L r dd Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:30 pm

    Past it. Bizarre sgning.
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:36 pm

    I hope Nigel will be able to find a new club this transfer window Ale
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:38 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:I hope Nigel will be able to find a new club this transfer window Ale

    Bollocks to that he loves it here and we love him he is going to be a legend if he keeps playing the way he is.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:08 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:I hope Nigel will be able to find a new club this transfer window Ale

    Nah... when he signed for citeeh he said three years for a team like citeeh and than I'm ready for a top club.... Laughing
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    Post by Fey Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:48 pm

    Great signing, Mancityni knows Parappa the rapper aint good enough for the top. Viera is past it but will do till they find something better!
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    Post by christmasborocooper Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:56 pm

    Classic Manci
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    Post by The Pröfessör Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:25 pm

    Paddy Vieira cheers

    I don't expect him to be a succes for the same reason he wasn't a succes at inter the past 2 seasons: Injuries! He's a crock these days.

    But if he magically manages to remain fit then he can surprise many people because he's still a very good player when fit. I have followed his career all these years.

    His inter future was over the moment Mourinho took cover as he doesn't have patience with unreliable players - see Robben.
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:36 am

    Never like one of our ex players wearing another PL club shirt Sad
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    Post by bluenine Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:19 am

    The Professor wrote:Paddy Vieira He's back! Icon_cheers

    I don't expect him to be a succes for the same reason he wasn't a succes at inter the past 2 seasons: Injuries! He's a crock these days.

    But if he magically manages to remain fit then he can surprise many people because he's still a very good player when fit. I have followed his career all these years.

    His inter future was over the moment Mourinho took cover as he doesn't have patience with unreliable players - see Robben.


    To be fair, Mou gave him as many (or as little) chances as he got under Mancio. He does stay injured a lot, is inconsistent, and gets a lot of cards. But there are some games where he does play very well. Inter are already filled with quality players for the deep midfielders role (Cambiasso, Motta, Zanetti, Stankovic, & Muntari), perhaps Vieira will come back into his own at City where he might be the focal point in the deep.
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    Post by Fade out Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:29 am

    Vieira has never been a 'deep midfielder'. That's one of life great mysteries he is considered one. For France, he was the driving b2b midfielder. Played like a lion there against Spain (both Euro 2000 and WC 2006), and that's the best I have seen him. That's his position. Juve saw the best of him in Serie A, with Emerson playing the deep midfield role. Then injuries after Inter signed him and the man is diseased forever.

    City might prefer him to Barry, a useless no-hoper CM. De jong-Vieira is a strong base. Ireland ahead of that, would complete that midfield. Ale

    France don't want him with Lass and Toulalan having sealed their starting slots. So good luck to him ok
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    Post by bluenine Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:36 am

    Laudable Laudrup wrote:Vieira has never been a 'deep midfielder'. That's one of life great mysteries he is considered one. For France, he was the driving b2b midfielder. Played like a lion there against Spain (both Euro 2000 and WC 2006), and that's the best I have seen him. That's his position. Juve saw the best of him in Serie A, with Emerson playing the deep midfield role. Then injuries after Inter signed him and the man is diseased forever.

    City might prefer him to Barry, a useless no-hoper CM. De jong-Vieira is a strong base. Ireland ahead of that, would complete that midfield. He's back! F_ale2

    France don't want him with Lass and Toulalan having sealed their starting slots. So good luck to him He's back! F_ok

    By "deep midfieders", I meant the non-AM/wingers. The midfield in the modern game is more and more becoming divided into two halves, and b2b, DMs, and most CMs fall under the "deep midfield" half of it, while the AMs & wingers fall under the "attacking midfield" half. Just a simplification of positions - justy to clarify where I was coming from...
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    Post by Fade out Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:49 am

    bluenine wrote:By "deep midfieders", I meant the non-AM/wingers. The midfield in the modern game is more and more becoming divided into two halves, and b2b, DMs, and most CMs fall under the "deep midfield" half of it, while the AMs & wingers fall under the "attacking midfield" half. Just a simplification of positions - justy to clarify where I was coming from...

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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:09 am

    The signing would make sense if he was on a reasonable contract. £140,000 a week is just ridiculous though.

    People have criticised Man City for lacking aggression and a leader - Vieira is both of those - but he's not the player he once was.
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    Post by Luis Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:54 pm

    Their city rivals buy player's that are not what they once were as well, must be something in the water in Manchester.
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    Post by Aristoskank Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:57 pm

    Tweesus wrote:The signing would make sense if he was on a reasonable contract. £140,000 a week is just ridiculous though.

    Didn't your club sign Eduardo up for another five years?
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    Post by Puro Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:39 pm

    A bit curious to see who will Mancini drop: the better midfielder De Jong OR the local boy? It's a very tough decision for Mancini for various reasons unless he builds the team around Barry and accomodates THIS midfielder so that everyone protects his ass, all his limitations just like Mourinho did with Lampard. scratch
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    Post by Fade out Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:48 pm

    Puro wrote:A bit curious to see who will Mancini drop: the better midfielder De Jong OR the local boy? It's a very tough decision for Mancini for various reasons unless he builds the team around Barry and accomodates THIS midfielder so that everyone protects his ass, all his limitations just like Mourinho did with Lampard. scratch

    Lampard is much better than Barry Laugh But I see your point. Smile

    Barry is not completely useless for City. He has 1 good game for every 4 bad games. Which is not saying very much. Laughing I'm sure even grandpa Vieira could do better than that. ok
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:17 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    The Professor wrote:Paddy Vieira He's back! Icon_cheers

    I don't expect him to be a succes for the same reason he wasn't a succes at inter the past 2 seasons: Injuries! He's a crock these days.

    But if he magically manages to remain fit then he can surprise many people because he's still a very good player when fit. I have followed his career all these years.

    His inter future was over the moment Mourinho took cover as he doesn't have patience with unreliable players - see Robben.


    To be fair, Mou gave him as many (or as little) chances as he got under Mancio. He does stay injured a lot, is inconsistent, and gets a lot of cards. But there are some games where he does play very well. Inter are already filled with quality players for the deep midfielders role (Cambiasso, Motta, Zanetti, Stankovic, & Muntari), perhaps Vieira will come back into his own at City where he might be the focal point in the deep.

    He mostly started when fit(which wasn't so often) under Mancini, rarely came off the bench, u can check the stats - can't be arsed to look them up. The reason he didn't play a lot of games was because of injuries and he was frequently sent off in his 1st few months at Inter. I remember him enjoying an injury free period towards the end of his 2nd season and he was one of Inter's best performers(along with Balotteli). It was that same season Ibra came off the bench and won the game game to seal the scudetto against Parma(i think). His injury problems got worse after that season and he's basically been a crock the past 1.5 season. Mourinho used to start him when he was 1st took charge but quickly gave up on him.

    Injuries fucked him up at Inter and sadly i can't ever see him being a fit footballer again.

    A shame because he's still a good player when fit.
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    Post by bluenine Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:57 am

    The Professor wrote:
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    The Professor wrote:Paddy Vieira He's back! Icon_cheers

    I don't expect him to be a succes for the same reason he wasn't a succes at inter the past 2 seasons: Injuries! He's a crock these days.

    But if he magically manages to remain fit then he can surprise many people because he's still a very good player when fit. I have followed his career all these years.

    His inter future was over the moment Mourinho took cover as he doesn't have patience with unreliable players - see Robben.


    To be fair, Mou gave him as many (or as little) chances as he got under Mancio. He does stay injured a lot, is inconsistent, and gets a lot of cards. But there are some games where he does play very well. Inter are already filled with quality players for the deep midfielders role (Cambiasso, Motta, Zanetti, Stankovic, & Muntari), perhaps Vieira will come back into his own at City where he might be the focal point in the deep.

    He mostly started when fit(which wasn't so often) under Mancini, rarely came off the bench, u can check the stats - can't be arsed to look them up. The reason he didn't play a lot of games was because of injuries and he was frequently sent off in his 1st few months at Inter. I remember him enjoying an injury free period towards the end of his 2nd season and he was one of Inter's best performers(along with Balotteli). It was that same season Ibra came off the bench and won the game game to seal the scudetto against Parma(i think). His injury problems got worse after that season and he's basically been a crock the past 1.5 season. Mourinho used to start him when he was 1st took charge but quickly gave up on him.

    Injuries fucked him up at Inter and sadly i can't ever see him being a fit footballer again.

    A shame because he's still a good player when fit.

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    What the hell have you been smoking??? Vieira has been shite for Inter, and I have seen most of Inter's games in the last 4 years.... Mancio did play him a lot in the beginning, but it wasn't just his injuries that ruled Vieira out, it was also his inconsistency and his seeming intent to collect cards. You think Mancio always started him? I don't ve to check the stats mate, I watched all those games.... after the "honeymoon" period, Mancio even started prefering Dacourt over Vieira (and so did all of us)....One of the better performers for Inter my arse... he has been one of our worst over the last 4 years.

    Not doubting his talent, I have seen him perform for France while being shite for Inter at the same time. Maybe as a consistent starter at City, he may discover his form... in a league he is more familiar with... but you just cannot honey coat his performances for Inter, he was shite.

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