Bundesliga 09/10 TOPS and FLOPS

spox, the best German site for sports news and analysis just did their review by ranking the teams/clubs

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1005/Artikel/saison-check-bayern-muenchen-schalke-04-mainz-05-robben-van-gaal-magath-tuchel.html

(in German)

1. Mainz
2. Schalke
3. Dortmund
4. Bayern
5. Frankfurt
6. Freiburg
7. Bremen
8. Leverkusen
9. Stuttgart
10. Gladbach
11. Nürnberg
12. HSV
13. Wolfsburg
14. Hoffenheim
15. Köln
16. Bochum
17. Hannover
18. Berlin

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well,

I suppose what Bundesliga novice TUCHEL did at Mainz , indeed, borders on being a MIRACLE

he did not even have time to prepare the season properly

come from the youth-management side, and immediately BEAT van Gaal's Bayern

PREDICTION: Tuchel will become Nationaltrainer within the next 20 years

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what Magath did at Schalke, blows my mind even more though

he took Rutten's SQUAD, fortified it with KIDS nobody had EVER heard of before

chaps like Matip, who scored on his Bundesliga debut against Bayern

Schalke are THE nightmare club in the Bundesliga

yet Magath TAMED the BEAST



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GROSS at Stuttgart , though, produced the best SECOND part of the season

outperforming even Bayern who were beginning to gel and steam ahead



ANYBODY who places GROSS as MANAGER of the SEASON has a good case, me thinks

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TOP FIVE MANAGERS for me though

1. Magath
2. Tuchel
3. Gross
4. Klopp
5. Skibbe

WORST FIVE Managers:

1. Veh
2. Babbel
3. van Gaal+Moniz
4. Funkel
5. Slomka

PLAYERS of the Season:

1. Frings
2. Kuranyi
3. Jansen
4. Wiese
5. Kroos + Müller

TALENT of the Season:

1. Müller + Kroos
2. Hummels
3. Köpplin
4. Reus
5. Bender

GOAL of the Season

1. Petric
2. any second goal by Pizarro

MOST LIKABLE player of the Season

1. Pizarro
2. van Bommel
3. Olic
4. Gebhardt
5. Merte
6. Dzeko

MOST ICONIC player of the Season

1. Lehmann
2. Lehmann
3. Lehmann

MOMENT of the Season

1. Lehmann stealing the glasses
2. Lehmann rearranging his crown jewels
3. Lehmann BREATHING

HIGHLIGHT of the Season

1. Labbadia getting the SACK
2. Veh getting the SACK
3. Mainz beating Bayern

Highlight of NEXT SEASON

1. St Pauli joining the 1. Bundesliga
2. Kaiserslautern the 1. Bundesliga
3. Poldi becoming top goal scorer
4. van Gaal getting the SACK BEFORE the Oktoberfest

wahre G

Aside from the rest of the nonsense (the *entire* post is quatsch):

Ä wrote:

WORST FIVE Managers:

1. Veh
2. Babbel
3. van Gaal+Moniz
4. Funkel
5. Slomka

No mention of Labbadia ?!

Claiming Moniz did worse than Labbadia ?!

Goodbye Ottoleinchen,

You

are

the

WEAKEST

link



WG

genuine mistake, axel

no Bundesliga manager drives me as nuts as Labbadia

this SYSTEM-manager-nonsense, with ZERO people skills

the ommission of Labbadia on the list was a trick my SUBCONSCIOUS played on me

to pretect me from utter insanity

I rate Labbadia on a par with Moniz

ie, equally bad

Labbadia started off well: the first half of the season was NOT bad

then , everything collapsed

on average, he could therefore have been even worse

Moniz was a HUGE disappointment

he really HAD TWO MATCHBALLS

he could and should have led HSV into the FINAL of the Europe league

which would have been the biggest international coup since Happel's days

all it took was ONE GAME against mediocre Fulham

Moniz fluffed it

he could also have DESTROYED Werder HEARTS in the final game and kicked them out of the CL

BRAGGING RIGHTS + 15 million Euro lost

THAT alone would have made him popular with the fans

he fluffed it as well



cannot make up my mind who is worse: Labbadia or Moniz

you could make a case for either one

You're an idiot

Axeslammer wrote:You're an idiot

I love you too



one of THE highlights of the season

without ANY doubt

was

von Bommel



axel

you have always tried to insult us Germans on here by calling van Bommel "a German"



that was the BIGGESt compliment you could have made

the truth though is that van Bommel is the BEST NEDERLANDER EVEr to have earned his money in the Bundesliga



top character

and HUGELY important at Bayern

Rummenigge just raved about him again

saying van Bommel called Timo when he had private problems

visited Demichilis at home when he had been down due to his injuries....

vB really is the DADDY of the team

his HUNGER to win knows no bounds either

and when Lahm sounds pessimistic as always, van Bommel is more upbeat

ABOVE ALL

the whole van Gaal BEHAVIOUR would have BACKFIRED badly without van Bommel

who could act as a cultural translator

a BUFFER

20% of all the credit won by Bayern this season should go to von Bommel

What a bunch of shit
the best player of BL is me
the goal of the season was created by me, I had so many clutchers it's hard to define, a more apt description for some of my braces would be goal of the decade or possibly century
the manager of the season is van gaal?...no me, I was his personal advisor, told him who and when to play and dictated the strategy and the pace of the game, before and while on the pitch
the talent of the season is me no doubt this goes without saying and is irrelevant of particular season we're talking about
the moment of the season is when i raped schalke by myself and made magath shoot deathrays out of his eyes

and the highlight of next season is...anyone? anyone? you guessed it - me again

as a general rule of thumb, the words "highlight of the" can not be anteceded by anyone of german descent unless bundesliga is completely void of any foreign players. Even then "highlight" would have to be replaced by "least mediocre"

What do you think of DUTT Otto?
Is he another streamlined nobody or a possibility for a big club in the next few years? Tuchel put him into shadows this saison, but Dutt had the weakest team (imo) and saved them from relegation.
I've heared he did a supreme job at the Trainerschule.

Dont know what to make of him though


Edit: I see you like Pizarro as much as Puro and myself. Great player

Everyone must love Pizzaro. I'm glad he came back to Werder, almost looked like it wasn't going to happen. Some of the best goals in the whole league and it's always nice to see someone excel somewhere else. So much talent on the Bremen side, but Naldo is my favorite.

Antarion wrote:What do you think of DUTT Otto?


Dont know what to make of him though


Edit: I see you like Pizarro as much as Puro and myself. Great player

no idea what to make of Dutt either

Favre/Funkel at Berlin

Slomka+others at Hannover

+ the Bochum lot did such a bad job

that it's difficult to know how well Dutt did

in general, the good ingredients for a good manager are

CHARACTER/personality

NATURAL authority

being a good PSYCHOLOGIST: arguably the most important quality

intelligence also helps

but really, the KEY is the ability to understand what makes players , and what makes a MANNSCHAFT tick

ADD

a bit of experience

which HELPS A LOT

and bob's your uncle

Tuchel fits in perfectly with this little theory of mine

no idea where this leaves Dutt though

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as for Pizarro: he is easily one of my top 3 players in the league

arguably, saved Werder's season this year

TOP FIVE MANAGERS:

1. Gross
2. Magath
3. Dutt
4. Klopp
5. Schaaf

WORST FIVE Managers:

1. Babbel
2. Labbadia
3. Herrlich
4. Veh
5. Rangnick

PLAYERS of the Season:

1. Kuranyi
2. Helmut, err... Cacau
3. Fromlowitz
4. Arnold Bruggink
5. Christian Gentner and Sascha Riether

TALENT of the Season:

1. Kroos
2. Hummels
3. Höwedes
4. Reus
5. Müller

GOAL of the Season

1. Marica's winner against Bayern
2. Any of Hanover's goals against Gladbach
3. Any of the goals Christian Gentner gave assists for

MOST LIKABLE player of the Season

1. Arnold Bruggink
2. Sascha Riether
3. Ricardo Osorio
4. Christian Eichner
5. Christian Schulz

MOST ICONIC player of the Season

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MOMENT of the Season

1. Those seconds when it was clear that Hanover staying up
2. Getting the text from Lesley saying that Enke had died
3. Stuttgart getting thrown out of the DFB Cup by Fürth after chasing a 1-0 lead for 60 minutes... That's when I became rather disenchanted with the team.

HIGHLIGHT of the Season

1. Hanover's celebrations after avoiding relegation
2. Stuttgart beating Bayern
3. Hanover's game against Gladbach

Highlight of NEXT SEASON

1. Christian Tiffert is back in the Bundesliga
2. Holger Stanislawski
3. Das Erdmännchen - err... Ulreich getting his first Bundesliga season under his belt
4. Stuttgart playing a good first half of the season (shock, horror)
5. Stuttgart getting pretty far in Europe

agree on Stanislawski being one of the highlights of next season

he looks like he could become a Bundesliga LEGEND

Hamburg could soon be the CAPITAL of German football

HSV + St. Pauli

THOSE derbies should be fantastic

we already know about HSV vs Bremen

is there also a history between Bremen vs St Pauli ??

@anglo

why do you have Dutt ahead of Tuchel ?

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I understand your feelings with regards to Babbel, but getting his coaching badges WHILST managing VfB was never gonna work

and do you think Gross will FINALLY produce a good FIRST half of the season at Stuttgart ? (I think you have found a true gem with Gross)

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come on , antari, bluti, allez-y....+Nederlandersi

YOUR flops and tops, please

There is no history between Bremen and St. Pauli other than having a 'common enemy' - the clubs and fans like each other.

There was just one incident in the past, the Pokal match in St. Pauli on frozen ground which Bremen lost, and which should have never been allowed to happen. The pitch was simply unplayable.

@anglo

why do you have Dutt ahead of Tuchel ?

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I understand your feelings with regards to Babbel, but getting his coaching badges WHILST managing VfB was never gonna work

and do you think Gross will FINALLY produce a good FIRST half of the season at Stuttgart ? (I think you have found a true gem with Gross)

That list is pretty arbitrary - but I think Dutt deserves it for having to deal with Mo Idrissou.

Re: Babbel: Then why didn't our officials react appropriately and get someone else in?

Seeing that the squad is being restructured (and how many outs and therefore ins we have and will have) - no, not really. Hotte is known for his last-minute-shopping, which won't help either.

OK chaps, here it is, my personal TOPS and FLOPS of the most exciting league in the world (tm)

TOP FIVE MANAGERS:
1. Gross
2. Magath
3. vGaal
4. Tuchel
5. Klopp

WORST Managers:

1. Babbel
2. Labbadia
3. Veh
4. Herrlich
5. Soldo

PLAYERS of the Season:

1. Schweinsteiger
2. Robben
3. Kuranyi
4. Marin
5. Müller/Janßen
6. Barrios/Olic

TALENT of the Season:

1. Marin
2. Müller
3. Kroos
4. Reus
5. Contento/Hummels
6. Butt


GOAL of the Season

Have to think more about that one

MOST LIKABLE player of the Season

1. vBommel
2. Pizarro
3. Olic
4. Schweinsteiger
5. Wiese
6. Stajner

MOMENT of the Season

1. Hertha 6 points after 17 games, Leverkusen unbeaten for so long
2. Enke
3. Lehmann with the glasses
4. vGaal nearly sacked

HIGHLIGHT of the Season

1. Meisterschaft (+CL)
2. Löw + Bierhoff demanding more money and stronger positions EPIC FAIL
3. Werder reaching CLQ

Highlight of NEXT SEASON

1. St Pauli (agree with you all on Stanislawski, great personality)
2. 10 teams fighting for Europe, everything is possible
3. Gomez turning up
4. KSC winning DfB Pokal against VfB
5. 7:0
6. Hoffenheim sacking all useless Latinos and go with their youth project

WORST Managers:

1. Babbel
2. Labbadia
3. Veh
4. Herrlich
5. Soldo

He's managed to survive the season...

Highlight of NEXT SEASON

1. St Pauli (agree with you all on Stanislawski, great personality)
2. 10 teams fighting for Europe, everything is possible
3. Gomez turning up
4. KSC winning DfB Pokal against VfB
5. 7:0
6. Hoffenheim sacking all useless Latinos and go with their youth project

In your dreams...

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

WORST Managers:

1. Babbel
2. Labbadia
3. Veh
4. Herrlich
5. Soldo

He's managed to survive the season...

Yeah, couldn't find anyone else. I kinda like him as a person but his coaching style is invisible to me.

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

Highlight of NEXT SEASON


1. St Pauli (agree with you all on Stanislawski, great personality)
2. 10 teams fighting for Europe, everything is possible
3. Gomez turning up
4. KSC winning DfB Pokal against VfB
5. 7:0
6. Hoffenheim sacking all useless Latinos and go with their youth project

In your dreams...

(At least you are in the final )

Antarion wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

Highlight of NEXT SEASON


1. St Pauli (agree with you all on Stanislawski, great personality)
2. 10 teams fighting for Europe, everything is possible
3. Gomez turning up
4. KSC winning DfB Pokal against VfB
5. 7:0
6. Hoffenheim sacking all useless Latinos and go with their youth project

In your dreams...

(At least you are in the final )

I think I'm still too sleep deprived to understand that (no more allnighters for this hedgehog!).

Anyway, as we're on the topic of Saisonrückblicke:
http://gffstream.vo.llnwd.net/o16/radiobremen/mediabase/028801/028801_101907.mp3

Arnd Zeigler

Antarion wrote:

WORST Managers:

5. Soldo

TALENT of the Season:

6. Butt


MOST LIKABLE player of the Season


5. Wiese

HIGHLIGHT of the Season

2. Löw + Bierhoff demanding more money and stronger positions EPIC FAIL

as for MOMENTS of the Season

I suppose we would have to add

1. van Gaal on the Munich balcony

"Wollt ihr den TOTALEN SIEG ?!"

2. Adler's HALSTASCHE : the ornamental scarf he wore DURING the games



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3. Robbens lange UNTERHOSE

=

der holländische Liebestöter

Ä wrote:

Antarion wrote:

WORST Managers:

5. Soldo

TALENT of the Season:

6. Butt


MOST LIKABLE player of the Season


5. Wiese

HIGHLIGHT of the Season

2. Löw + Bierhoff demanding more money and stronger positions EPIC FAIL

as for MOMENTS of the Season

I suppose we would have to add

1. van Gaal on the Munich balcony

"Wollt ihr den TOTALEN SIEG ?!"

2. Adler's HALSTASCHE : the ornamental scarf he wore DURING the games



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3. Robbens lange UNTERHOSE

=

der holländische Liebestöter

van Goebbels

Agree, those will be memorable as well


Wait till next year, when bonnets will be the new style.

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

Antarion wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

Highlight of NEXT SEASON


1. St Pauli (agree with you all on Stanislawski, great personality)
2. 10 teams fighting for Europe, everything is possible
3. Gomez turning up
4. KSC winning DfB Pokal against VfB
5. 7:0
6. Hoffenheim sacking all useless Latinos and go with their youth project

In your dreams...

(At least you are in the final )

I think I'm still too sleep deprived to understand that (no more allnighters for this hedgehog!).

Anyway, as we're on the topic of Saisonrückblicke:
http://gffstream.vo.llnwd.net/o16/radiobremen/mediabase/028801/028801_101907.mp3

Arnd Zeigler

You get used to it. I also haven't had much sleep the last few nights
(what i meant: Be glad, at least VfB was in the finals in my thoughts/dreams )

this is like a dinner party of the third reich, and I mean after germany got bamboozled. Complete and utter delusion

robben wrote:this is like a dinner party of the third reich, and I mean after germany got bamboozled. Complete and utter delusion

glenn, what do you think

did Hitler escape with the last Nazi U-Boot to leave the Reich ?

and where does Adolf live now, IF he is still alive ?

and

could Louis van Gaal really be his SON

and Robben his grand-son ?

Ä wrote:
could Louis van Gaal really be his SON

and Robben his grand-son ? Mourinho his NEPHEW ?

Would explain a few things...