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    Post by stinger Mon May 24, 2010 4:23 pm

    I usually don't follow this kind of tournaments, but there is two players from Everton doing very well for England - Ross Barkley is very highly rated and Luke Garbutt looks like a decent successor for Baines. So I've had a plan to watch England vs Turkey today... but I see now Spain playing against Portugal. Due to f'n Roland Garros tournament some of Eurosport2 local channels aren't airing this game, but I found a stream somehow.

    Question for Messiah - any La Masia products playing for Spain?

    Edit: Found it, there is 2 of them - Gerard Deulofeu (LW/RW, 16) and Eduard ‘Edu’ Campabadal (CB/RB). Gerard looks great in 1st half. Let the hype begin Ale
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    Post by Guest Mon May 24, 2010 6:01 pm

    stinger wrote:I usually don't follow this kind of tournaments, but there is two players from Everton doing very well for England - Ross Barkley is very highly rated and Luke Garbutt looks like a decent successor for Baines. So I've had a plan to watch England vs Turkey today... but I see now Spain playing against Portugal. Due to f'n Roland Garros tournament some of Eurosport2 local channels aren't airing this game, but I found a stream somehow.

    Question for Messiah - any La Masia products playing for Spain?

    Edit: Found it, there is 2 of them - Gerard Deulofeu (LW/RW, 16) and Eduard ‘Edu’ Campabadal (CB/RB). Gerard looks great in 1st half. Let the hype begin Ale

    The hype has begun a long time a go, he has been the best player for spain so far a long with Paco,scored 2 goals today against Portugal.

    Not Hype fact, the best most talented U-18 player in all of masia, which pretty much means he is one of the best U-18 players in Europe.

    reminds be a lot of C. Ronaldo.
    many say Edu is better than Muniesa
    Rafa alcantara was called up as well but got injured.
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    Post by stinger Sun May 30, 2010 4:27 pm

    Final between England and Spain will start in a few minutes, streams available.
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    Post by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 4:34 pm

    stinger wrote:Final between England and Spain will start in a few minutes, streams available.

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    Post by stinger Sun May 30, 2010 4:36 pm

    Messiah wrote:
    stinger wrote:Final between England and Spain will start in a few minutes, streams available.

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    sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/88392 - romanian commentary though.
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    Post by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 5:01 pm

    1-0 to spain off a Gerard deflected goal, he really is the next ronaldo Under-17 European Championship Icon_biggrin
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    Post by stinger Sun May 30, 2010 5:15 pm

    Edu looks like a decent RB (although quite defensive minded) in making for Barca too.
    I'm happy with Barkley and Garbutt for Everton, although Garbutt has a lot to learn defensively, as Gerard skinned him easily a few times. Barkley looks class though.
    Also, the other winger for Spain looks quality too.
    1:1 at HT.
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    Post by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 5:20 pm

    stinger wrote:Edu looks like a decent RB (although quite defensive minded) in making for Barca too.
    I'm happy with Barkley and Garbutt for Everton, although Garbutt has a lot to learn defensively, as Gerard skinned him easily a few times. Barkley looks class though.
    Also, the other winger for Spain looks quality too.
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    Jesse he plays for Real madrid
    Edu probably looks defensive, because he plays CB for barca.
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    Post by stinger Sun May 30, 2010 5:32 pm

    Wickham scores for England, good long pass by Barkley to start a whole play. Spanish defenders were shockingly passive.
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    Post by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 5:32 pm

    England take the lead

    England may actually win a youth tournament Under-17 European Championship Icon_eek
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    Post by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 5:37 pm

    This Spanish team reminds be off the english national team, a poor midfield and a team that he too reliant on a few key players.
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    Post by stinger Sun May 30, 2010 5:41 pm

    Messiah wrote:This Spanish team reminds be off the english national team, a poor midfield and a team that he too reliant on a few key players.
    It reminds me Sevilla - uncreative central midfield and everything going through wingers.
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    Post by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 5:42 pm

    stinger wrote:
    Messiah wrote:This Spanish team reminds be off the english national team, a poor midfield and a team that he too reliant on a few key players.
    It reminds me Sevilla - uncreative central midfield and everything going through wingers.

    Yep better comparison.
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    Post by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 5:47 pm

    That was a PK, england has bought the refs even in the U-17 cup, so much is their need to win something on the international level.
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    Post by stinger Sun May 30, 2010 5:59 pm

    lol!

    You need to see it - what an own goal it would be Doh One england player tried to clear the ball away and ball hit other one's ass and hit the post.
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    Post by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 6:13 pm

    ENGLAND WINS

    the spanish coach didn't do anything to try and charge the flow of the game as it went on.
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    Post by Rosicky Sun May 30, 2010 6:14 pm

    endless conveyor belt.
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    Post by stinger Sun May 30, 2010 6:14 pm

    England wins!!! Gerard looks extremely talented, hopefully he will learn about releasing the ball at right times down the road Wink
    Very happy with Ross Barkley as for Everton goes.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon May 31, 2010 2:28 pm

    That Wickham led is pretty handy apparently. haven't seen him much but I've seeen them rave about him on the Football League Show before.
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    Post by Guest Mon May 31, 2010 2:41 pm

    Top 10 talents of the U-17 Champs

    Jack Butland (goalkeeper, England)
    On the bench for England's first two wins, Butland replaced Samuel Johnstone for the Turkey encounter with his team through. The tall Birmingham City FC keeper's performance was so impressive, he retained his place and aided England to victory as they held on to beat Spain 2-1 in the final.

    Tiago Ferreira (defender, Portugal)
    FC Porto's Ferreira combined superbly in central defence with Tobias Figueiredo and Portugal conceded only three goals in the whole finals, two of them late on against Spain when Rui Bento's side had to chase a big win. Being schooled by Bento, no mean defender himself, is an added plus.

    Mattia Desole (defender, Switzerland)
    Left-back Desole already has a reputation – FC Internazionale Milano signed him from Grasshopper-Club in June 2008 – and although injury-hit Switzerland struggled in three defeats, Desole looked the equal of his opponents having already featured in his nation's fine defensive performance in the elite round.

    Konstantinos Rougkalas (defender, Greece)
    Up front, captain Dimitrios Diamantakos, the hero in qualifying, was dominant for Greece but they mainly impressed in defence, conceding only once against England and holding the Czech Republic 0-0. Olympiacos FC player Rougkalas was a solid presence in a well-drilled backline.

    Tomáš Kalas (Czech Republic)
    The Czech Republic too had an impressive defence. Although Filip Twardzik made a costly slip against Turkey, the Celtic FC centre-back bolstered his reputation while alongside him Kalas did a sterling job, though a red card against Greece ended his tournament early.

    Taşkın Çalış (winger, Turkey)
    There was plenty of focus on three-goal Turkey captain Artun Akçakin but he was aided in his task by VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach winger Taşkın. It was the No7's clever deep corner that helped put Turkey briefly ahead against England and Taşkın also equalised in the semi-final with Spain, though his side were to lose 3-1.

    Abdoulaye Doucouré (midfielder, France)
    Turkey's fellow beaten semi-finalists France had a talented team, including Yaya Sanogo up front and another tall player, Paul Pogba, in midfield. Stade Rennais FC's Doucouré has a lower profile than that pair, but proved a real prospect, showing great skill and coolness to set up Pogba to give France hope in their semi-final loss to England.

    Gerard (forward, Spain)
    In Gerard and Jesé Rodríguez, Spain had two superb wingers lurking on the touchlines blessed with skill and pace. Of the two, the pick was FC Barcelona man Gerard, who scored twice in the group stage against Portugal, including one straight from a corner, and lit up the final with the opening goal and an array of tricks. England won but left-back Luke Garbutt will not forget Gerard in a hurry.

    Connor Wickham (forward, England)
    England had talent running through their team from Garbutt in defence to Conor Coady in midfield and Joshua McEachran supporting the attack. Up front they had a formidable pair, Arsenal FC striker Benik Afobe supporting the strapping Wickham, already a senior regular for Ipswich Town FC. He did not score in the group stage but two in the semi-final defeat of France and the winner against Spain – a piece of superb control and cool finishing – capped a season to remember.

    Paco (forward, Spain)
    He drew a blank in the final but that was out of character. Paco's six goals in the finals, a winner against France, a hat-trick to beat Switzerland and two in the semi-final dismissal of Turkey, left him three clear of anyone else in Liechtenstein. Including qualifying, the Valencia CF forward managed a tournament record 14.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon May 31, 2010 2:51 pm

    Heard a lot of good things about that McEachran chap too. Think he plays for Chelsea. Might get to see a bit of him for them next season.
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon May 31, 2010 6:59 pm

    Jesus Christ, the ENGLISH HYPE around this u-17 victory is just fucking disgraceful! Can't shut any of you guys up. How tough it is on all those non Englanders having to listen to pages and pages of gloating and crowing. If it's this bad at youth level where you're creating "Endless Conveyor Belt of Talent" threads by the truckload, what would it be like if the English Senior Team actually won the World Cup?

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    This one is for all the ABE's on the board

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    Post by S4P Mon May 31, 2010 7:07 pm

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    Post by Cesc Soler Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:45 am

    cheers

    I think the last time we won one of these youth cups was back in 1993 with an under-18 team.

    That team: Chris Day, Gary Neville, Sol Campbell, Chris Casper, Kevin Sharp, Darren Caskey, Mark Tinkler, Paul Scholes, Robbie Fowler, Julian Joachim, Kevin Gallen

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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:34 am

    Rosicky wrote:endless conveyor belt.

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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:26 pm

    This isn't funny anymore,

    I'm going to have to leave these boards soon as I can't take the English hype over this u17's victory.

    All the endless conveyor belt of talents threads, the discussions about who is going to become the new English Ozil, Kroos, Marin:

    this board is basically EPL fans with a smattering of continentals who cannot be heard above all the pro English din.

    It truly is a MON-like disgrace, and just goes to show how right Otto and Co. really are to threaten to leave if England win the World Cup.

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    Post by blutgraetsche Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:37 pm

    What use are those talented players if hardly any of them make it to the senior team in foresseable time? Just take a look at the English squad, which looks like one of the oldest in the tournament, actually the oldest English WC squad ever if I'm not mistaken (think I read that somewhere).

    You say we hype Marin, Özil, Kroos and co., but those kids are actually playing for the senior team already, they have MADE IT. More than a handful of last year's U21 European Champions are in the German WC squad, quite a few of them are starters.
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    Post by L r dd Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:43 pm

    What logic is that? Your senior players are shite. And history shows experience counts for an awful lot especially in tournaments like this where the winners usually average 28-30.

    If you're good enough you'll play otherwise experience will win the day. That German side is so fucking ungerman. Therefore usually you think shite players but it's Germany they will go far. Doubt it this time.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:48 pm

    There is experience, and there is a good mix of experience and youth, a so called balanced squad. Germany's squad lacks balance in this respect due to injuries and a stubborn coach, not because there are no older alternatives. But the English squad lacks youthful energy and 'playfulness', too.
    The German squad is very German actually, just way too young.

    But the point of that discussion was the integration of young players into the senior team. Without that happening, titles on the youth level are pretty meaningless. But I guess you figured that out yourself by now.
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    Post by COTR Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:02 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:There is experience, and there is a good mix of experience and youth, a so called balanced squad. Germany's squad lacks balance in this respect due to injuries and a stubborn coach, not because there are no older alternatives. But the English squad lacks youthful energy and 'playfulness', too.
    The German squad is very German actually, just way too young.

    But the point of that discussion was the integration of young players into the senior team. Without that happening, titles on the youth level are pretty meaningless. But I guess you figured that out yourself by now.

    Some bizarre logic from you here Blut. Capello has shown he is prepared to play anyone if they are good enough. Walcott is young and has this youthful energy you speak of but unfortunately he is shit.

    Youthful energy ?

    Glen Johnson, Rooney, Lennon, Milner for the first team. They have all made it also.

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