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WC2010 Group E - Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon
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by DD Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:21 pm
Kuyt has indeed been shit last 2 games. Before that he was very good in the games leading to the WC.TM wrote:Why the f*ck does Kuyt play? All he does is run around like a headless chicken.
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On a plus side, Edgar's suit is pretty cool 
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by fcb Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:24 pm
Romford Pele wrote:The-Frank-Tavern wrote:blame mourinho for all these negative tactics
And Benitez.
It's certainly become far too easy and common for teams nowadays to just sit back, stay organised, and defend for 90mins with little or no attacking ambition whatsoever, then claim "well what else do you expect us to do against a superior team".
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by Romford Pele Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:25 pm
But yet these people get hailed as genius'.
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by TM Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:27 pm
kas wrote:Romford Pele wrote:The-Frank-Tavern wrote:blame mourinho for all these negative tactics
And Benitez.
It's certainly become far too easy and common for teams nowadays to just sit back, stay organised, and defend for 90mins with little or no attacking ambition whatsoever, then claim "well what else do you expect us to do against a superior team".
So no team ever parked the bus before Mourinho and Benitez? This happens at every WC, the inferior teams play negative football.
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by Romford Pele Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:28 pm
TM wrote:kas wrote:Romford Pele wrote:The-Frank-Tavern wrote:blame mourinho for all these negative tactics
And Benitez.
It's certainly become far too easy and common for teams nowadays to just sit back, stay organised, and defend for 90mins with little or no attacking ambition whatsoever, then claim "well what else do you expect us to do against a superior team".
So no team ever parked the bus before Mourinho and Benitez? This happens at every WC, the inferior teams play negative football.
But not to this extent...
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Re: WC2010 Group E - Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon
by Khadrim Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:28 pm
kas wrote:Romford Pele wrote:The-Frank-Tavern wrote:blame mourinho for all these negative tactics
:ale:
And Benitez.
It's certainly become far too easy and common for teams nowadays to just sit back, stay organised, and defend for 90mins with little or no attacking ambition whatsoever, then claim "well what else do you expect us to do against a superior team".
And what is wrong with this? Should they open up and lose? Why not blame the dutch for playing with no width?
Hmm three questions. I blame the Rooney for my confusion
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by fcb Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:28 pm
TM wrote:kas wrote:Romford Pele wrote:The-Frank-Tavern wrote:blame mourinho for all these negative tactics
And Benitez.
It's certainly become far too easy and common for teams nowadays to just sit back, stay organised, and defend for 90mins with little or no attacking ambition whatsoever, then claim "well what else do you expect us to do against a superior team".
So no team ever parked the bus before Mourinho and Benitez? This happens at every WC, the inferior teams play negative football.
Well catenaccio has existed for a long time, but I personally certainly can't remember such widespread "park the bus" tactics. Small teams would usually have a go at least.
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Re: WC2010 Group E - Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon
by DD Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:29 pm
What people forget though, that at the WC there are no more teams that are clear whipping boys; at least not in the traditional sense.
Even the 'minnows' now have tactical discipline or park the bus quite effectively. Its not like in the past you could play against Jamaica or Saudi Arabia and score 9 goals or something.
The minnows are still minnows, but the quality and/or tactical gap among the teams (not talent or individuals), is much smaller than it used to be in the past.
Whatever though, Netherlands have been insipid in the first half. I expect them to do something positive now.
Even the 'minnows' now have tactical discipline or park the bus quite effectively. Its not like in the past you could play against Jamaica or Saudi Arabia and score 9 goals or something.
The minnows are still minnows, but the quality and/or tactical gap among the teams (not talent or individuals), is much smaller than it used to be in the past.
Whatever though, Netherlands have been insipid in the first half. I expect them to do something positive now.
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by TM Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:29 pm
Romford Pele wrote:TM wrote:kas wrote:Romford Pele wrote:The-Frank-Tavern wrote:blame mourinho for all these negative tactics
And Benitez.
It's certainly become far too easy and common for teams nowadays to just sit back, stay organised, and defend for 90mins with little or no attacking ambition whatsoever, then claim "well what else do you expect us to do against a superior team".
So no team ever parked the bus before Mourinho and Benitez? This happens at every WC, the inferior teams play negative football.
But not to this extent...
You have to take into account many of the teams are "afraid" to lose the match. And hence not taking any risks and playing it safe.
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by Romford Pele Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:31 pm
kas wrote:TM wrote:kas wrote:Romford Pele wrote:The-Frank-Tavern wrote:blame mourinho for all these negative tactics
And Benitez.
It's certainly become far too easy and common for teams nowadays to just sit back, stay organised, and defend for 90mins with little or no attacking ambition whatsoever, then claim "well what else do you expect us to do against a superior team".
So no team ever parked the bus before Mourinho and Benitez? This happens at every WC, the inferior teams play negative football.
Well catenaccio has existed for a long time, but I personally certainly can't remember such widespread "park the bus" tactics. Small teams would usually have a go at least.
Also because teams finances are becoming more and more insecure that results are more scrutinised than ever. It seems it is alot easier to take up the defensive approach and earn more points, rather than being expansive.
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by Romford Pele Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:32 pm
TM wrote:Romford Pele wrote:TM wrote:kas wrote:Romford Pele wrote:The-Frank-Tavern wrote:blame mourinho for all these negative tactics
And Benitez.
It's certainly become far too easy and common for teams nowadays to just sit back, stay organised, and defend for 90mins with little or no attacking ambition whatsoever, then claim "well what else do you expect us to do against a superior team".
So no team ever parked the bus before Mourinho and Benitez? This happens at every WC, the inferior teams play negative football.
But not to this extent...
You have to take into account many of the teams are "afraid" to lose the match. And hence not taking any risks and playing it safe.
Check my following post.
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by Rosicky Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:34 pm
touch of a rapist from rvp there.
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by Romford Pele Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:35 pm
RVP 
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by DD Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:35 pm
There are no small teams, or even dark horses who play an attacking team first. Everybody prefers a clean sheet nowadays over the chance of winning 2-1. Better have the sure 1 point, rather than the chance of 0 points by attacking.TM wrote:Romford Pele wrote:TM wrote:kas wrote:Romford Pele wrote:The-Frank-Tavern wrote:blame mourinho for all these negative tactics
And Benitez.
It's certainly become far too easy and common for teams nowadays to just sit back, stay organised, and defend for 90mins with little or no attacking ambition whatsoever, then claim "well what else do you expect us to do against a superior team".
So no team ever parked the bus before Mourinho and Benitez? This happens at every WC, the inferior teams play negative football.
But not to this extent...
You have to take into account many of the teams are "afraid" to lose the match. And hence not taking any risks and playing it safe.
All the small teams now that, and Mourinho and Benitez have had so much succes with that aproach that even some of the bigger teams aporach the game like that as well. Even Brasil is now a defense-based team.
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by stinger Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:37 pm
Excellent defensive header by Tanaka, he looks very solid btw.
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Re: WC2010 Group E - Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon
by Romford Pele Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:38 pm
MIDGET!!!
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by DD Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:39 pm
Sneijder !! 1-0
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by Chocolate Thunder Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:39 pm
Midget 1-0
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by stinger Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:39 pm
Midget 
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by bluenine Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:39 pm
Romford Pele wrote:MIDGET!!!
Midget is Holland's new God
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by Romford Pele Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:39 pm
Dreadful keeping to be fair.
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by TM Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:39 pm
Holland love scoring straight after the restart.
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by BoBo Vieri 32 Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:39 pm
midget is not good enough for the dutch 
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Re: WC2010 Group E - Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon
by TM Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:40 pm
BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:midget is not good enough for the dutch
VDV>>>>>Midget
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by Romford Pele Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:40 pm
BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:midget is not good enough for the dutch
Who said that?
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Re: WC2010 Group E - Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon
by DD Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:41 pm
I was just about to compliment Japan. They have been a much better team than I expected them to be over the last 2 games.
Not only did they get a horrible group in terms of team(styles) matchups against theirs, they have held their own as well. Their defense isn't that bad, and they have been tactically quite strong.
Not only did they get a horrible group in terms of team(styles) matchups against theirs, they have held their own as well. Their defense isn't that bad, and they have been tactically quite strong.
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by Jaime Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:41 pm
BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:midget is not good enough for the dutch
He's alright for the dutch. He's just not good enough for Madrid.
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by Romford Pele Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:42 pm
Decent play from the Japanese. Now we have a game.
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