integration: should players sing national anthems

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integration: should players sing national anthems

by Ä Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:59 am

before the match ?

Beckenbauer now says that ALL of them should

in reality, though, the "non-ethnic-Germans" , like Tasci, Poldi, ....

do not

does it matter ?

should we care?

what is the practice in your country?

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Six Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:04 pm

I've never sung our national anthem in my life. I couldn't care less if the players sing it or not - what matters is what they do after kick off.

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Axeslammer Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:09 pm

I think that only 10% of the Dutchies are able to sing the first stanza of our National anthem...

It's an ancient acrostic (the first letters of the fifteen stanzas formed the name 'Willem van Nassov') in archaic Dutch that goes on forever.

I don't blame the players if they don't know the words, but would appreciate if they'd took the trouble to learn it....but only if they'd *all* do it.

Being a team starts with the anthem : either we all sing or no one does Ale

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Tweesus Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:21 pm

Whatever happened to world cup songs?

I'd have fucking loved to see Lampard and Ferdinand singing a duet together on top of the pops!

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Axeslammer Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:24 pm

Tweesus wrote:Whatever happened to world cup songs?

Andre Hazes died Crying or Very sad

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Ricardo Jol Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:29 pm

Personnally I like when every one sings the anthm it shows team spirit and commitment.

In the Netherlands Indonesian-Dutch and Dutch origins always try to sing the anthem, Moroccan-Dutch and Surinamese never try to sing it

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by debaser Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:37 pm

Don't care. I don't like our national anthem much, and find it bizarre when people get upset about players not singing it.

I also don't see why singing it is important in any way for team bonding. If Brave John Terry sings loudly and proudly, but Emile Heskey chooses to use that time to quietly compose his thoughts before the match, should that effect the team's performance in any way? Will Brave JT be angry with quiet Emile and refuse to hoof it up to him?

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Ricardo Jol Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:58 pm

debaser wrote:Don't care. I don't like our national anthem much, and find it bizarre when people get upset about players not singing it.

I also don't see why singing it is important in any way for team bonding. If Brave John Terry sings loudly and proudly, but Emile Heskey chooses to use that time to quietly compose his thoughts before the match, should that effect the team's performance in any way? Will Brave JT be angry with quiet Emile and refuse to hoof it up to him?

Why are liverpool supporters all sing You never walk alone together....? And why every player who enter such a pitch gets a goose skin...? because it sounds impressive.

We all like the all blacks doing the Maori dance, don't we? it impress your opponent...

think about it!

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Lusitan Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:16 pm

In our country you'll get fire if you don't sing. Specialy if you are not "born" here. It's one of the first things everyone was seeking on Deco, Pepe and Liedson's first official match.

Personal POV? They should know it and sing it. They are defending the country, not a club.

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by DeLux Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:33 pm

Lusitan wrote:In our country you'll get fire if you don't sing. Specialy if you are not "born" here. It's one of the first things everyone was seeking on Deco, Pepe and Liedson's first official match.

Personal POV? They should know it and sing it. They are defending the country, not a club.

Good thing too. I've noticed Camoranesi doesn't sing it either. IMO that tells you all you need to know about how he feels about Italy - he's an Argentinian playing for Italy as if it were any other club team.

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Kimbo Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:38 pm

I would never sing our national anthem.

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Aristoskank Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:44 pm

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:Why are liverpool supporters all sing You never walk alone together....? And why every player who enter such a pitch gets a goose skin...? because it sounds impressive.

I don't think most players give a fuck about YAWN. Having heard it so very many times, it has lost all meaning to me, and I'm not even a footballer.

And given Liverpool's persistent underachievement in the last two decades, I'd suggest if anything it has the opposite of the affect you attribute to it.

The fourth verse of our national anthem goes:

Not in this land alone
But be God's mercies known
From shore to shore
Lord make the nations see
That men should brothers be
And form one family
The wide world over

A song for the New World Order...

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Lusitan Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:52 pm

Olé wrote:

Lusitan wrote:In our country you'll get fire if you don't sing. Specialy if you are not "born" here. It's one of the first things everyone was seeking on Deco, Pepe and Liedson's first official match.

Personal POV? They should know it and sing it. They are defending the country, not a club.

Good thing too. I've noticed Camoranesi doesn't sing it either. IMO that tells you all you need to know about how he feels about Italy - he's an Argentinian playing for Italy as if it were any other club team.

Truth be told, if almost everyone here knows the national anthem, it's Filipão's "fault". lolll

Also, if any "adopted" player sings the anthem in the first match, people will go "ahh, ok, he's one of us." and he'll never have to sing it again.
Very Happy

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by L r dd Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:55 pm

I don't like our anthem much and im not to bothered but i prefer to see some singing.

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Six Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:58 pm

Olé wrote:

Lusitan wrote:In our country you'll get fire if you don't sing. Specialy if you are not "born" here. It's one of the first things everyone was seeking on Deco, Pepe and Liedson's first official match.

Personal POV? They should know it and sing it. They are defending the country, not a club.

Good thing too. I've noticed Camoranesi doesn't sing it either. IMO that tells you all you need to know about how he feels about Italy - he's an Argentinian playing for Italy as if it were any other club team.

What about someone like Gary Neville, doesn't make him unpatriotic if he has issues with the lyrical content of the anthem. As an agnostic, it means nothing to me. Being English does however. A lot of the anthems are just outdated and don't represent the countries as they are now.

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Lusitan Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:09 pm

Six wrote:

Olé wrote:

Lusitan wrote:In our country you'll get fire if you don't sing. Specialy if you are not "born" here. It's one of the first things everyone was seeking on Deco, Pepe and Liedson's first official match.

Personal POV? They should know it and sing it. They are defending the country, not a club.

Good thing too. I've noticed Camoranesi doesn't sing it either. IMO that tells you all you need to know about how he feels about Italy - he's an Argentinian playing for Italy as if it were any other club team.

What about someone like Gary Neville, doesn't make him unpatriotic if he has issues with the lyrical content of the anthem. As an agnostic, it means nothing to me. Being English does however. A lot of the anthems are just outdated and don't represent the countries as they are now.

I do agree that some are really outdated. Don't think it's the case with ours (if one don't take it literaly). It's just a call to arms, to motivate, to regroup. I think that's why most Portuguese still like it and sing it.

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by debaser Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:13 pm

I think we should adopt 'The Village Green Preservation Society' by the Kinks as our national anthem Ale

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Sheffield gunner Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:22 pm

debaser wrote:Don't care. I don't like our national anthem much, and find it bizarre when people get upset about players not singing it.

I also don't see why singing it is important in any way for team bonding. If Brave John Terry sings loudly and proudly, but Emile Heskey chooses to use that time to quietly compose his thoughts before the match, should that effect the team's performance in any way? Will Brave JT be angry with quiet Emile and refuse to hoof it up to him?

I wouldn't sing our anthem. It's dull, I'm not religious, and I certainly couldn't care about God saving an old woman.

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by TheCrazy58 Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:22 pm

I like the melody of our national anthem but wouldn't sing it - far too much loaded history and association with the lunatic fringe right wing behind it.About half of the Japanese team do sing it but I think the other half who don't don't do so not because they don't know the words.

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by Jago Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:38 pm

debaser wrote:I think we should adopt 'The Village Green Preservation Society' by the Kinks as our national anthem

I like our national anthem, but this is a cool idea cheers

Think Terry and co would be more at home with Soulja Boy though Razz

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Re: integration: should players sing national anthems

by Calidad Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:45 pm

Olé wrote:

Lusitan wrote:In our country you'll get fire if you don't sing. Specialy if you are not "born" here. It's one of the first things everyone was seeking on Deco, Pepe and Liedson's first official match.

Personal POV? They should know it and sing it. They are defending the country, not a club.

Good thing too. I've noticed Camoranesi doesn't sing it either. IMO that tells you all you need to know about how he feels about Italy - he's an Argentinian playing for Italy as if it were any other club team.