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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:35 pm

    Best paid coaches at the WC (wages / year):

    01. Capello (England) €8.8m
    02. Marcello Lippi (Italy) €3m
    03. Joachim Löw (Germany) €2.5m
    04. S. G. Eriksson (Ivory Coast) €2.1m
    05. Bert van Marwijk (Netherlands) €1.8m
    06. Ottmar Hitzfeld (Switzerland) €1.75m
    07. Vicente del Bosque (Spain) €1.5m
    08. Lars Lagerbäck (Nigeria) €1.45m
    09. Carlos Queiroz (Portugal) €1.35m
    10. Javier Aguirre (Mexico) €1.2m
    11. Carlos Alberto Parreira (South Africa) €1.2m
    12. Pim Verbeek (Australia) €1.2m
    13. Ricki Herbert (New Zealand) €800.000
    14. Takeshi Okada (Japan) €800.000
    15. Diego Maradona (Argentina) €800.000
    16. Carlos Dunga (Brazil) €800.000
    17. Otto Rehagel (Greece) €750.000
    18. Paul Le Guen (Cameroon) €650.000
    19. Marcelo Bielsa (Chile) €575.000
    20. Raymond Domenech (France) €560.000
    21. Huh Jung-moo (South Korea) €405.000
    22. Morten Olsen (Denmark) €390.000
    23. Milovan Rajevac (Ghana) €365.000
    24. Radomir Antic (Serbia) €305.000
    25. Bob Bradley (USA) €275.000
    26. Matjaz Kek (Slovenia) €245.000
    27. Gerardo Martino (Paraguay) €245.000
    28. Rabah Saadane (Algeria) €245.000
    29. Reinaldo Rueda (Honduras) €240.000
    30. Vladimir Weiss (Slovakia) €215.000
    31. Oscar Tabarez (Uruguay) €205.000
    32. Kim Jong-hun (North Korea) €170.000

    http://kurier.at/multimedia/bilder/2007014.php?bild=1


    Top earner Capello roughly earns as much as the bottom 20 coaches combined.
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    Post by Lusitan Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:37 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Best paid coaches at the WC (wages / year):

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    09. Carlos Queiroz (Portugal) €1.35m
    ...


    It's a shame on our current economic state...
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    Post by Enigma Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:43 pm

    English are paying just to get beat out on Penalties again.
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    Post by Enigma Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:44 pm

    Oh and how the hell is the Ivory Coast outspending Spain?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:49 pm

    problem with african nations is... they also need to buy a good coach. without spending a lot of money they'll always get second rated coaches.

    I hope with such an investment they create an infrastructure for selfmade coaches as well other wise it is like "bringing water to the sea"

    i am afraid that doesn't happen though
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:53 pm

    Enigma wrote:English are paying just to get beat out on Penalties again.

    We're paying him all that money so he can pick pretty much the same squad and team his predecessors picked.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:01 pm

    Yes, that's what a national team is Kimmy. you can't BUY players. The emphasis is on coaching the players that you have to deliver their best.
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    Post by Ä Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:12 pm

    incidentally

    the USA players get the highest BONUS , if they win the World Cup
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    Post by Calidad Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:13 pm

    Wow Capello on more than twice as much as the 2nd highest earner. Can't say I'm surprised I guess.


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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:13 pm

    Tweesus wrote:Yes, that's what a national team is Kimmy. you can't BUY players. The emphasis is on coaching the players that you have to deliver their best.

    Whatever, this should be the last chance for them, too many have been resting on their laurels and not producing their club form. Some of them have picked up 50 plus caps whilst making NO impact. Answer me this, if this tournament goes the same way as the previous ones, will you be comfortable seeing Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Carrick, Heskey etc playing in our euro qualifying campaign? Take Gerrard for example, our 2nd biggest name, he walks into every team, plays shit, then gets picked again, plays shit, and here we are relying on him to help us win a world cup. It's pathetic.
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    Post by Ä Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:18 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Answer me this, if this tournament goes the same way as the previous ones, will you be comfortable seeing Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Carrick, Heskey etc playing in our euro qualifying campaign?

    yep

    no problem with that AT ALL

    Laugh

    long may the golden generation continue to dazzle the world

    lol!
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:21 pm

    Shouldn't you be off organizing a blitzkreig somewhere?
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:23 pm

    'Plays shit' is a slight over-exaggeration surely?

    He had one shocker at Euro 2004 but aside from that was good. He was also very decent at the WC 2006 - but we were let down there by Rooney getting sent off. Euro 2008 failure as largely a result of keeping errors.
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    Post by bluenine Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:26 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Best paid coaches at the WC (wages / year):

    01. Capello (England) €8.8m
    02. Marcello Lippi (Italy) €3m
    03. Joachim Löw (Germany) €2.5m
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    20. Raymond Domenech (France) €560.000

    That makes a lot of things clear....
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:29 pm

    Tweesus wrote:'Plays shit' is a slight over-exaggeration surely?

    He had one shocker at Euro 2004 but aside from that was good. He was also very decent at the WC 2006 - but we were let down there by Rooney getting sent off. Euro 2008 failure as largely a result of keeping errors.

    Compared to what he has done for Liverpool, he has been shit for England. If he played like Lee Hendrie for Liverpool, then i might be pleasantly surprised by his England performances. I can't help but look at the current squad and just see alot of proven failures and names that only look good on the teamsheet. Maybe we don't have the replacements coming though just yet(although there are no excuses for not selecting Young and Johnson), but in 2 years we should and if we still have the same old shit hanging around then i'll despair.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:34 pm

    To a large degree I think we've suffered in the past because our style of play doesn't go well with the heat of summer touraments - it'll be different this time of course.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:36 pm

    But didn't you actually hire Capello to change that style of play?
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:40 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    That makes a lot of things clear....

    Yeah, thought the same. No wonder that the French FA didn't fire him. His wages are ridiculously low for a coach of a top footballing nation.

    Löw earns a lot, but if you consider the fact that the German FA is the biggest and richest national sport organisation in the world, things are put into perspective. Especially if you compare his wages to Capello's. Not many club managers earn that much even.
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    Post by Axeslammer Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:42 pm

    Tweesus wrote: you can't BUY players.

    Try telling that to Germany, Spain, Portugal and all the other "buying-Brazilians-wholesale"-countries Ale
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    Post by Six Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:42 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:But didn't you actually hire Capello to change that style of play?

    If changing our style of play equals the back four passing it sideways to each other more, then yes he changed it.
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    Post by bluenine Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:43 pm

    Tweesus wrote:To a large degree I think we've suffered in the past because our style of play doesn't go well with the heat of summer touraments - it'll be different this time of course.
    Excuses, excuses Whistle

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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:46 pm

    Hey bluenine, Abhishek Yadav is shit!
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:47 pm

    Six wrote:
    If changing our style of play equals the back four passing it sideways to each other more, then yes he changed it.

    Well, at least this means that he has put more emphasis on possession. Knowing Capello though, his teams usually are built on a strong defence and efficient counters. So if changing the style of play was a main criteria, Capello is probably the wrong choice, because he won't be that much different. You basically can count Eriksson as a coach of the 'Italian school', too.
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    Post by Lusitan Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:49 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:
    Tweesus wrote: you can't BUY players.

    Try telling that to Germany, Spain, Portugal and all the other "buying-Brazilians-wholesale"-countries Ale

    See, we didn't have to buy them, they were playing here and decided to play for our country. Not that difficult as we share a comon history and ancestory.

    Now for a little trivia: Do you know Brasil is right next to Dutch Guyana Suriname?
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:10 pm

    Kimbo is right - Capello's selections look a little bit spineless when you get this "Don Fabio" bollocks - he "takes no prisoners".

    John Terry still being in the squad is obviously a great example of Capello's no nonsense approach to squad disclipine Rolling Eyes

    Whilst I don't agree with Kimbo on Heskey - it would be admirable if he, Lampard, Gerrard and Rio would retire at the end of this tournament because there is no chance after this and it could allow others vital experience.
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    Post by debaser Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:17 pm

    Gerrard's only 30. I'm not a big fan of the guy, but he is still one of the best midfielders we got & will probably still be in 2 or 4 years.

    Heskey's time is probably up after this tournament.
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    Post by Isco Benny Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:20 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Kimbo is right - Capello's selections look a little bit spineless when you get this "Don Fabio" bollocks - he "takes no prisoners".

    John Terry still being in the squad is obviously a great example of Capello's no nonsense approach to squad disclipine Rolling Eyes

    Whilst I don't agree with Kimbo on Heskey - it would be admirable if he, Lampard, Gerrard and Rio would retire at the end of this tournament because there is no chance after this and it could allow others vital experience.

    Kimbo is missing the patently obvious though - with virtually the same team as Mclaren, Capello managed to get England through to the World cup, winning all but one of the qualifying games. Including 4-1 and 5-1 results against a Croatian team that only a year prior had beaten us home and away.

    If this isn't an obvious marked improvement, then I don't know what is.

    The personnel hasn't changed much granted, but clearly he's managed to mould the same personnel from a team incapable of winning against the might of Macedonia into a side with an impressive track record in competitive matches.

    An epic swashbuckling style was never going to be on the cards either with a pragmatist like Capello.

    So essentially we've got what we expected - a team that, even when playing poorly, gets results.

    And infact scores a fair bit too as an added bonus - I believe we were the joint top scoring nation in Europe during the qualifiers alongside Spain.

    I'd say Capello has been a success. I'm not quite sure what else people were expecting.
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    Post by bluenine Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:24 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Hey bluenine, Abhishek Yadav is shit!

    No arguements there.... very impressed you even heard of him.... or did ya just google it? Razz
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:43 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:Hey bluenine, Abhishek Yadav is shit!

    No arguements there.... very impressed you even heard of him.... or did ya just google it? Razz

    Ofcourse i fucking googled it, the only Indian footballer i know of is Michael Chopra, infact he's probably the best one there is.
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    Post by Black Magic Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:49 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:Hey bluenine, Abhishek Yadav is shit!

    No arguements there.... very impressed you even heard of him.... or did ya just google it? Razz

    Ofcourse i fucking googled it, the only Indian footballer i know of is Michael Chopra, infact he's probably the best one there is.

    Chopra was born in England, raised in England and has never been to India. In fact, one of his parents is of Anglo blood. How am I not Yemeni and he's Indian? You're a bit agenda driven sometimes Kimbo.

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