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    Post by mongrel hawk Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:49 pm

    The WC logo is very suggestive:

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    Brazilian arrogance has no limits. I loved this logo.



    Meanwhile, Scolari is by far the fans favourite to take over the national team, followed by Mano Menezes, but I think Leonardo will be chosen.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:56 pm

    I didn't like it. The logo show the hands that will steal billions of public money.
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:00 pm

    The man with a hand for a face.
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:07 pm

    Anyone think they'll finish on time? I heard they haven't even started building some of the stadiums yet.
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    Post by Kroos Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:27 pm

    how hot will it be then?

    and when will the matches be shown in european tv?
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    Post by Twisted Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:48 pm

    It's two hours behind London time in Brazil in the summer (three hours GMT but with daylight savings it's two hours), and in the winter it's a little bit warmer than it was in South Africa. So the games will be on in the early evening I expect. The late games will probably start about 8.30pm in the UK and 9.30pm over your way. They might possibly start the late games at 10.30pm CET. On the other hand, the afternoon games would start about 6pm, so it's better for working people than South Africa.
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    Post by Kroos Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:54 pm

    thats sound pretty good to me

    thank god about the weather
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    Post by Juligen Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:24 pm

    The logo is so shit its almost funny, but to be honest who cares about WC logos? I no even remember the German one.

    At this moment I hardly care anymore if they will still public money anymore, I juts hope we can built the stadiums and all what its needed in the right time. I dont want to be embarrassed in front of the entire world. I think South Africa did a good job. There were some flaws, but overall this was a good tournament.


    We invited people to our country so the minimum we can do it is to be a good host. But I think that at least when it comes to public transportation we already are a little better than South Africa. That's the word we are getting from people that actually went to Johannesburg and other cities.


    Also, with all due respect to south african fans, brazilians care MUCH more about football and WC so I think the atmosphere not only in the stadiums but also on streets will be better and more passionated, thats important for me. I will never forget how crazy the South Koreans were about their team in the 2002 WC, they were a spectacle itself. So the big problem for me would be the stadiums and airports.


    Also, it wouldnt hurt to have a decent team, but we know that deep down brazilians just want to have a great World Cup, winning its not a big priority for us Wink Laugh
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    Post by mongrel hawk Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:40 pm

    Twisted wrote:It's two hours behind London time in Brazil in the summer (three hours GMT but with daylight savings it's two hours), and in the winter it's a little bit warmer than it was in South Africa. So the games will be on in the early evening I expect. The late games will probably start about 8.30pm in the UK and 9.30pm over your way. They might possibly start the late games at 10.30pm CET. On the other hand, the afternoon games would start about 6pm, so it's better for working people than South Africa.

    No, it's 4 hours earlier than in London. It's 3 hours normally. In your summer, it's 4. In our summer (december-march), it's 2.

    We can't talk about the Brazilian weather, cause there isn't one. There are many.

    In the Northeast shore (Salvador, Recife, Natal, Fortaleza), it will be quite hot, between 22 and 35 degrees and very humid.

    In the Northwest (Manaus, Amazon area), it will be very hot, between 25 and 38 degrees, and very humid.

    In the West (Campo Grande, Pantanal area), the temperature will be cooler, between 5 and 25, but very humid.

    In the Centre-West (Brasília), it may vary a lot, between 10 and 30, depending on the day, and it will be very, very dry.

    In Rio, between 15 and 30.

    In São Paulo, between 10 and 28 (though it may reach down to 5 in the coldest days).

    In Belo Horizonte, between 12 and 28.

    In the South (Curitiba and Porto Alegre), it may vary between zero and 25.











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    Post by bluenine Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:11 pm

    I like the logo, obviously Wink

    Can't wait till 2014.... most likely, I will travel for this one....
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    Post by Luis Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:15 pm

    I fancy going to Brazil for this, should have some money in 4 years time...hopefully.
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    Post by debaser Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:18 pm

    Juligen wrote:The logo is so shit its almost funny, but to be honest who cares about WC logos? I no even remember the German one.

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    Not sure what they were thinking there. Almost as bad as the London 2012 one. Brazil one is a masterpiece in comparison!
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    Post by Juligen Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:27 pm

    I liked this one better, but I think it was too close from the African one

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    Post by mongrel hawk Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:27 pm

    It will be interesting to see a team playing at almost zero degrees in Curitiba and then 4 days later playing at 38 degrees in the absurdly humid air of Manaus, in the middle of the Amazon.

    Organizers are already thinking about divinding the WC into 4 areas.
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    Post by Antarion Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:44 pm

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    I like the logo though.
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    Post by Antarion Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:07 pm

    mongrel hawk wrote:It will be interesting to see a team playing at almost zero degrees in Curitiba and then 4 days later playing at 38 degrees in the absurdly humid air of Manaus, in the middle of the Amazon.

    Organizers are already thinking about divinding the WC into 4 areas.

    Intersting.

    But what happens after the GS, when one team has played 3 games at 38 and the other at 0?
    Probably should mix up the KO stages so that no team has an "advantage". Don't really know if it will have an big impact at all though.
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    Post by stinger Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:10 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    Can't wait till 2014.... most likely, I will travel for this one....
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    Hopefully 4 years will be enough to fix my money situation Wink

    And logo is very nice IMO.
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    Post by Antarion Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:16 pm

    stinger wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    Can't wait till 2014.... most likely, I will travel for this one....
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    Hopefully 4 years will be enough to fix my money situation Wink

    And logo is very nice IMO.

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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:04 pm

    I can't wait for the next WC. I will have the month off and I will try to go to as many matches as possible in Rio, São Paulo and my hometown Belo Horizonte.

    The bad thing about the WC is that the stadiums will be closed for reforms until 2013. The alternative stadium to perform the games of my favourite club will be the "Independência Stadium". The place doesn't bring back good memories to you english.
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    Post by Romford Pele Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:38 am

    Antarion wrote:
    stinger wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    Can't wait till 2014.... most likely, I will travel for this one....
    Ale

    Hopefully 4 years will be enough to fix my money situation Wink

    And logo is very nice IMO.

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    I'll be there cheers
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    Post by Lusitan Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:01 am

    Romford Pele wrote:
    Antarion wrote:
    stinger wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    Can't wait till 2014.... most likely, I will travel for this one....
    Ale

    Hopefully 4 years will be enough to fix my money situation Wink

    And logo is very nice IMO.

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    Big EMB gathering? Biggrin


    I'll be there cheers

    I'll probably be in the northeast. Not sure if i'll see many games as i'll mostly be Hump then drunken then Brasil 2014 Party-smiley-551 with some Sleep mixed

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    Post by Fey Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:53 pm

    Totally forgot the next one was in Brazil. Another WC in a violent third world country Erm Guess Fifa makes the most money in such countries, but with all respect every WC should just be held in Europe. Infrastucture and stadiums are already here, most teams come from here and you wont have the empty stands like you had in Asia(those fake supporters were awesome mind) and Africa.

    Doubt who is gonna win in 2014 Laughing
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    Post by fcb Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:59 pm

    Brazil will have the infrastructure and stadiums. And most certainly won't have empty stands.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:08 pm

    kas wrote:Brazil will have the infrastructure and stadiums. And most certainly won't have empty stands.

    I think we'll have a lot of empty stands. Brazilians usually don't give much of a fuck about football itself. They like to cheer for their team when winning only. Games like Euroshite-Asianshite will probably be more than half empity, unless it's held in São Paulo, where there are millions of immigrants or descendants.

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    Post by fcb Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:13 pm

    Shocked

    That would be surprising to me. I would have thought a country with a serious football culture would love to 'participate' in the World Cup.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:17 pm

    kas wrote:Shocked

    That would be surprising to me. I would have thought a country with a serious football culture would love to 'participate' in the World Cup.

    No, Brazilians like to win. Participating means nothing.

    Brazilians are glory hunters in general. A popular club here can have attendances of 90 thousand and 4 thousand in the same season depending on their moment (winning or losing moment).

    But a WC is a WC. Who knows what will happen? My guess is that empty seats in games like Slovenia-Algeria will be a problem. Not because of money, but just lack of interest really.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:40 pm

    I'm sure that games between non seeded teams will have a lot of empty seats.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:49 pm

    Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:I'm sure that games between non seeded teams will have a lot of empty seats.

    Exactly. I just went down the building to smoke a cig and was talking to the security guard I always talk about footy with.

    I asked him what he thought about it, and he also said he's sure many games will have a lot of empty seats. "Who the fuck wants to watch Denmark-Slovenia?", asked my Corintiano friend.

    But I think all South Americans and top Euro teams won't have this problem.
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    Post by Juligen Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:11 pm

    mongrel hawk wrote:
    kas wrote:Brazil will have the infrastructure and stadiums. And most certainly won't have empty stands.

    I think we'll have a lot of empty stands. Brazilians usually don't give much of a fuck about football itself. They like to cheer for their team when winning only. Games like Euroshite-Asianshite will probably be more than half empity, unless it's held in São Paulo, where there are millions of immigrants or descendants.


    With all due RESPECT, but I dont think so. In fact sometimes I feel that people from Rio and Sao Paulo dont care that much for football or the national team. The rest of Brazil is pretty passionate.

    How many times I saw here in Nordeste stadiums completely full for a third league game, even the regionals have a good number of people, while in Sao Paulo many supporters only care to show up if the team is fighting for something. Lets not forget that fans from North or northeast hardly gets to see international games, so this is a opportunity of a life time. The south of Brazil also has a very passionate football fans, and Todo as a baiano yourself, you know how crazy the fans in Bahia are. They do love football.

    Sometimes it pisses me off to see people saying that Brazil headcorner has to be Sao Paulo or Rio since those are the nastiest fans when it comes to the seleçao. They always treat the national team as shit. If we are not winning the game by the 20 min of the first half we can already hear some boos.
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    Post by Antarion Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:17 pm

    Its not a real Brazilian "problem" though, Estonia - Algeria wont ever have full stadiums anywhere outside those countries or neighborhood.

    Maybe FIFA learn sth from SA with all those empty seats...making extra cheap ticket prices for some matches or sth similar. But i think that wasn't the problem in SA, according to FIFA most tickets get sold actually. Probably to the wrong people though.

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