Manchester United 2006/2007

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:

Sir Parks Lives wrote:I'd want Tevez for a 4-2-3-1 formation.

------------ Senna -------- Carrick

--- Ronaldo ------ Rooney -------- Tevez

---------------------- Saha

Awesome line up.

& both Rooney and Tevez could lead the line if Saha was out and Scholes, Rossi and Park could come in for cover.

i rate park highly. utd fans dont seem to share my opinion

do u rate park?

Park is quality and I really like the guy. I just think at times he can go missing slightly but the great thing about him is a) he's good coming from the bench and b) he doesn't complain about going on the bench.

I just rate the players in that line up above him.

l r d wrote:some of the line ups look good brian. but i cant say how much i disagree with your bent views. saha is 3 times the player bent is imo

Okay lets say he is...........Still need players capable of running there tails off up front and scoring.....................Otherwise players like Rooney will end up doing it and not growing and contributing in other areas... .Point I'm trying to make you cannot have a bunch of highly talented players everywhere some have to do the trench work......

Even when Man U won the treble.....The goals that were missed up front was amazing......but the forward line worked there tails off.......Bent could be a player to do this with another.

Sir Parks Lives wrote:

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:

Sir Parks Lives wrote:I'd want Tevez for a 4-2-3-1 formation.

------------ Senna -------- Carrick

--- Ronaldo ------ Rooney -------- Tevez

---------------------- Saha

Awesome line up.

& both Rooney and Tevez could lead the line if Saha was out and Scholes, Rossi and Park could come in for cover.

i rate park highly. utd fans dont seem to share my opinion

do u rate park?

Park is quality and I really like the guy. I just think at times he can go missing slightly but the great thing about him is a) he's good coming from the bench and b) he doesn't complain about going on the bench.

I just rate the players in that line up above him.

i think he should start. when he first came i saw an imediate comparison to hleb at arsenal. both obviously very talented but aprechiated at their respective club. hleb's my favorite player. cant stand it when arsenal fans slag him off.

Tevez would make for an interesting line up.... I hope Saha can play a whole season.........

I like park a lot, some people dont rate him i think because he can look really average in the way he plays. A bit like a headless chicken. But whenever he was in the team, we created a lot more chances, his energy is amazing. And he is actually quite an intelligent player

Thats the thing I like most about Park, even more than his energy and workrate. His football intelligence is amazing, he plays so many good through balls and so many good runs.

He just has the odd game, where he contributes absolutely nothing, which pisses me off.

Brian3-5-2 wrote:

l r d wrote:some of the line ups look good brian. but i cant say how much i disagree with your bent views. saha is 3 times the player bent is imo

Okay lets say he is...........Still need players capable of running there tails off up front and scoring.....................Otherwise players like Rooney will end up doing it and not growing and contributing in other areas... .Point I'm trying to make you cannot have a bunch of highly talented players everywhere some have to do the trench work......

Even when Man U won the treble.....The goals that were missed up front was amazing......but the forward line worked there tails off.......Bent could be a player to do this with another.

I see what you are saying, but rooney saha the closest we come to cole yorke i think. Both fast players who cover a lot of ground, and good on the ball. Game v newcastle we created 33 shots. alright it was only 2-0, but if you have 33 shots you are more than likely going to win.

Rooney will always be a hard worker anyway brian, i dont think you can take that out of his game, even if we bought bent and he did it aswell.

RVN got 21 goals last year in the EPL
Rooney got 16
Bent had 18 in the EPL

I hope Saha, Rooney, and Ronadlo can make up for RVN.
If Rooney andRonaldo score more which I think they will the middle will be weak..Because backing tracing will slowdown

l r d wrote:

Brian3-5-2 wrote:

l r d wrote:some of the line ups look good brian. but i cant say how much i disagree with your bent views. saha is 3 times the player bent is imo

Okay lets say he is...........Still need players capable of running there tails off up front and scoring.....................Otherwise players like Rooney will end up doing it and not growing and contributing in other areas... .Point I'm trying to make you cannot have a bunch of highly talented players everywhere some have to do the trench work......

Even when Man U won the treble.....The goals that were missed up front was amazing......but the forward line worked there tails off.......Bent could be a player to do this with another.

I see what you are saying, but rooney saha the closest we come to cole yorke i think. Both fast players who cover a lot of ground, and good on the ball. Game v newcastle we created 33 shots. alright it was only 2-0, but if you have 33 shots you are more than likely going to win.

Rooney will always be a hard worker anyway brian, i dont think you can take that out of his game, even if we bought bent and he did it aswell.

good post, i agree u'll never change rooney's game. he has always said that aswell.

Brian3-5-2 wrote:RVN got 21 goals last year in the EPL
Rooney got 16
Bent had 18 in the EPL

I hope Saha, Rooney, and Ronadlo can make up for RVN.
If Rooney andRonaldo score more which I think they will the middle will be weak..Because backing tracing will slowdown

Yeah but we scored and created a lot more when he wasnt in the team. this is more important. bent got 18, but he was in a team designed to make chances for him, and really him only, plus 5 goals were penalties.
all rooney's goals were from open play...plus how many assists at least 9.

Rooney had to do so much more because we had no midfield, that problem will be gone this year. He and ronaldo recieved the ball far to deep.

Agree about that Rooney is a monster of a player the heart the size of a lion. I just want to see him tearing up the middle and the blasting forward. In a second wave attack rooney will get more space also... Either way you play him he will do well. Rooney is my favourite player. What do you think him scoring 20 goals a year and making a few assists is really good enough? What do you people want to see of Rooney..

honestly, he's not a goalscorer. i think he \'ll bag 12 goals and get plenty assists ti his name. this year is a big year because it shows if he has progressed or not

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:honestly, he's not a goalscorer. i think he \'ll bag 12 goals and get plenty assists ti his name. this year is a big year because it shows if he has progressed or not

who is not a goalscorer Bent or Rooney....

Rooney, doh lol

I duno what you want from him Brian. 20+ goals plus 10+ assists and to consistently dominate games.
With ruud he was the legs for two people, it never worked, plus no midfield he had to be everywhere.

With Saha he has to do less and better midfield, can recieve the ball in better positions, while having more energy in these positions to be more effective.

I am very positive for the new season

i think all the top 4 teams can have reason to be positive.

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:Rooney, doh lol

I agree so if he is not a goalscorer then Rooney needs to be used where he could cause most problems, for me this is in midfield. Unsettling teams in the middle of the park and then pouncing forward.

Brian3-5-2 wrote:

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:Rooney, doh lol

I agree so if he is not a goalscorer then Rooney needs to be used where he could cause most problems, for me this is in midfield. Unsettling teams in the middle of the park and then pouncing forward.

totally agree with you. so u would prefer him to operate in a 4-5-1?

or put him in a 4-4-2? in that case u need to buy a striker.

l r d wrote:I duno what you want from him Brian. 20+ goals plus 10+ assists and to consistently dominate games.
With ruud he was the legs for two people, it never worked, plus no midfield he had to be everywhere.

With Saha he has to do less and better midfield, can recieve the ball in better positions, while having more energy in these positions to be more effective.

I am very positive for the new season

That would be good.........Guess I want to believe in some of the hype.

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:i think all the top 4 teams can have reason to be positive.

I can see what you are saying and why you say this. Can see it from every teams point of view, But i really believe we have sorted out the problems, plus two of the brightest talents in the game, that year better, should really push us on.

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:

Brian3-5-2 wrote:

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:Rooney, doh lol

I agree so if he is not a goalscorer then Rooney needs to be used where he could cause most problems, for me this is in midfield. Unsettling teams in the middle of the park and then pouncing forward.

totally agree with you. so u would prefer him to operate in a 4-5-1?

or put him in a 4-4-2? in that case u need to buy a striker.

4-4-2 for now would be good...Although If Fergie used 3-5-2 in a few years it could be a real pleasure watching United go for the gusto................

l r d wrote:

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:i think all the top 4 teams can have reason to be positive.

I can see what you are saying and why you say this. Can see it from every teams point of view, But i really believe we have sorted out the problems, plus two of the brightest talents in the game, that year better, should really push us on.

as an arsenal fan i'm very optimisitc! RVP and cesc developing very well, hleb settled, looking class in pre-season. top 3 certrainty this year.

Arsenal look to be better this year... now if you take a few points off Chelsea so does Liverpool and Man U.... the EPL could open right up...........

i do hope its really close. i also hope that arsenal beat either cheski or utd this season. we havent done it in ages.

The bookies see it as being the most one sided premiership race ever, But we all see it as being one of the closest and the most teams involved in possibly winning it, hope we are right, and it is close and exciting.
It could get boring if Chelsea keep running away with it.

Chelsea do not look that great in defence.Man U look the strongest in the department
Then Arsenal then Liverpool...........

Midfield at this time with Ballack possible out start of season
Still clinch it from Arsenal I think the Man U and Liverpool tieing

Forward line hmmmmmmmmm......very close....Chelsea top
Arsenal and Man U tied then Liverpool..........

Ferguson backs Saha and Rooney could be out for season opener..........

Latest odds

Chelsea - 1/2
Man United - 8/1
Liverpool - 8/1
Arsenal - 8/1

As for Rooney, Brian. His record gets better by the year, I think he should be getting more than 20 goals in all competitions next year.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,27-2312195,00.html

Looks like were going to seal the Senna deal.

Interesting about Hargreaves. No wonder we didn't go for it at £15 million.

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:

Sir Parks Lives wrote:

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:

Sir Parks Lives wrote:I'd want Tevez for a 4-2-3-1 formation.

------------ Senna -------- Carrick

--- Ronaldo ------ Rooney -------- Tevez

---------------------- Saha

Awesome line up.

& both Rooney and Tevez could lead the line if Saha was out and Scholes, Rossi and Park could come in for cover.

i rate park highly. utd fans dont seem to share my opinion

do u rate park?

Park is quality and I really like the guy. I just think at times he can go missing slightly but the great thing about him is a) he's good coming from the bench and b) he doesn't complain about going on the bench.

I just rate the players in that line up above him.

i think he should start. when he first came i saw an imediate comparison to hleb at arsenal. both obviously very talented but aprechiated at their respective club. hleb's my favorite player. cant stand it when arsenal fans slag him off.

He will start against the smaller teams but like Hleb sometimes he struggles with the physical side against the stronger sides hence fergie usually opts for Richardson or Giggs. Some of his link up play with Rooney is great they are the two players that most click in the team they hit it off straight away. If Park can add 7+ goals to his game he would be a top top player IMO