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Aston Villa 2011/2012
Murray- Number of posts : 10247
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
You're rewriting history a bit there Puro. That season that Rangers finished 3rd was when they nearly went bankrupt, and Hearts who finished 2nd had a mad Lithuanian owner who chucked a huge amount of money at buying players.
blutgraetsche- Number of posts : 23328
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Sheffield gunner wrote:Don't like him as a player, or don't like his personality?
He's always come across quite well I thought. His interviews in Zeit over the season have been quite interesting as well. Plus he has the whole comedy accent thing going on.
As a player, of course. There's nothing remotely interesting about his personality for me to dislike him.
Noah und der Bale wrote:Hitz said the EPL >> Bundesliga, which is why he's a thoroughly excellent chap and also probably why Blut doesn't like him
First, I didn't even know that he said that, just makes him an idiot in addition to being a crap player. And second, I actually dislike him because he used to be one of Löw's darlings who always had a guaranteed place in the squad and even staring XI for no reason, least of all merit / performance.
Puro- Number of posts : 10679
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Murray wrote:You're rewriting history a bit there Puro. That season that Rangers finished 3rd was when they nearly went bankrupt, and Hearts who finished 2nd had a mad Lithuanian owner who chucked a huge amount of money at buying players.
Hmm the money must've run out rather quickly because Hearts were basically the SPL's #3 team during McLeish reign at Rangers and one time finishing second. Then they dropped to 4th, 6th, 8th, but I see they're back to their 'usual' #3.
stinger- Number of posts : 6477
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
And according to press Lerner didn't want to give Benitez 30 milion to spend when asked for it...blutgraetsche wrote:Maybe this will cheer you up then......hopefully....
Aston Villa's new manager Alex McLeish given £40m in transfer funds and targets Scott Dann - report
Recently-installed Villans boss lines up talented defender from his former club Birmingham City, but is told he must find £15m to prise the player away from St Andrew's
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2011/06/19/2538618/aston-villas-new-manager-alex-mcleish-given-40m-in-transfer
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Villa close on N'Zogbia
Villa boss Alex McLeish is a big fan of the Frenchman and tried to sign the player when he was in charge of Birmingham.
Wigan are resigned to losing N'Zogbia with Latics chairman Dave Whelan admitting they will not stand in his way if they receive a suitable offer.
The Frenchman is entering the final year of his contract at the DW Stadium and the player is ready to move on to play at a higher level
McLeish has identified N'Zogbia as one of his top summer transfer targets and he is keen to win the race for his signature.
The likes of Liverpool, Newcastle and Sunderland have all been linked with a move for the winger, but Villa are thought to be favourites for the 25-year-old.
N'Zogbia could help fill the void left by Ashley Young's departure to Manchester United last month.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7017910,00.html
Villa boss Alex McLeish is a big fan of the Frenchman and tried to sign the player when he was in charge of Birmingham.
Wigan are resigned to losing N'Zogbia with Latics chairman Dave Whelan admitting they will not stand in his way if they receive a suitable offer.
The Frenchman is entering the final year of his contract at the DW Stadium and the player is ready to move on to play at a higher level
McLeish has identified N'Zogbia as one of his top summer transfer targets and he is keen to win the race for his signature.
The likes of Liverpool, Newcastle and Sunderland have all been linked with a move for the winger, but Villa are thought to be favourites for the 25-year-old.
N'Zogbia could help fill the void left by Ashley Young's departure to Manchester United last month.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7017910,00.html
Sgoater1- Number of posts : 11129
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Given almost done now for £4m, are you pleased with that Debaser ? I think its a great deal for you cos he is a great keeper.
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Young was sold for £16m so how much should N'Zogbia cost?
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
With Downing gone, and seemingly Cuellar and Heskey both going, squad depth is getting to microscopic levels.
Incomings must be imminent, but they seem to be going on forever. Given's been all-but-done for a week or more (apparently City fucking around with agreeing a pay-off - much like when we signed Dunne from them). N'Zogbia & Parker both seem to be in the works, but far from certain..
Other links seem worryingly few & far between, despite the clear need for reinforcements. Starting to seem like they think returning misfits (Warnock, Ireland) and promising kids are enough to fill gaps from all these sales/end of contracts, with only minimal proper replacements brought in.
McLeish apparently wants to go back to 442 with Gabby alongside Bent, so I fear he is going to settle for a squad like this (with each listed roughly in order of selection):
GK: Given/Guzan/Marshall
FB: Young/Warnock/Beye/Lichaj
CB: Dunne/Collins/Clark/Baker
CM: Parker/Makoun/Petrov/Delph
AM: N'Zogbia/Albrighton/Ireland/Bannan
FW: Bent/Gabby/Fonz/Weimann
Wage bill would be looking a lot healthier & it'll be good that kids are going to get real chances, but it seems like a risky game to play, and one which could end up more expensive in long run - kids are likely to be inconsistent & McLeish can't really afford inconsistency while he's trying to win over fanbase. If this season is repeat of last & we are struggling in relegation battle come Christmas, either sacking McLeish or making Bent-style panic signings in January works out very expensive.
I think we really need to invest this summer in upgrades on Beye, Warnock & Cuellar (i.e. players who'll get in the first team - defence was crying out for overhaul last year) and another attacking midfield/wide player so we actually replace Young and Downing.
Incomings must be imminent, but they seem to be going on forever. Given's been all-but-done for a week or more (apparently City fucking around with agreeing a pay-off - much like when we signed Dunne from them). N'Zogbia & Parker both seem to be in the works, but far from certain..
Other links seem worryingly few & far between, despite the clear need for reinforcements. Starting to seem like they think returning misfits (Warnock, Ireland) and promising kids are enough to fill gaps from all these sales/end of contracts, with only minimal proper replacements brought in.
McLeish apparently wants to go back to 442 with Gabby alongside Bent, so I fear he is going to settle for a squad like this (with each listed roughly in order of selection):
GK: Given/Guzan/Marshall
FB: Young/Warnock/Beye/Lichaj
CB: Dunne/Collins/Clark/Baker
CM: Parker/Makoun/Petrov/Delph
AM: N'Zogbia/Albrighton/Ireland/Bannan
FW: Bent/Gabby/Fonz/Weimann
Wage bill would be looking a lot healthier & it'll be good that kids are going to get real chances, but it seems like a risky game to play, and one which could end up more expensive in long run - kids are likely to be inconsistent & McLeish can't really afford inconsistency while he's trying to win over fanbase. If this season is repeat of last & we are struggling in relegation battle come Christmas, either sacking McLeish or making Bent-style panic signings in January works out very expensive.
I think we really need to invest this summer in upgrades on Beye, Warnock & Cuellar (i.e. players who'll get in the first team - defence was crying out for overhaul last year) and another attacking midfield/wide player so we actually replace Young and Downing.
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Sgoater1 wrote: Given almost done now for £4m, are you pleased with that Debaser ? I think its a great deal for you cos he is a great keeper.
Yeah it makes sense. Only question would be if there's a danger of shoulder injury recurring. Much like when we signed Friedel, really. Vastly experienced PL keeper & we should get 3 or 4 years from him as first choice. Bonus that he's already played alongside Dunne plenty.
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
debaser wrote:With Downing gone, and seemingly Cuellar and Heskey both going, squad depth is getting to microscopic levels.
Incomings must be imminent, but they seem to be going on forever. Given's been all-but-done for a week or more (apparently City fucking around with agreeing a pay-off - much like when we signed Dunne from them). N'Zogbia & Parker both seem to be in the works, but far from certain..
Other links seem worryingly few & far between, despite the clear need for reinforcements. Starting to seem like they think returning misfits (Warnock, Ireland) and promising kids are enough to fill gaps from all these sales/end of contracts, with only minimal proper replacements brought in.
McLeish apparently wants to go back to 442 with Gabby alongside Bent, so I fear he is going to settle for a squad like this (with each listed roughly in order of selection):
GK: Given/Guzan/Marshall
FB: Young/Warnock/Beye/Lichaj
CB: Dunne/Collins/Clark/Baker
CM: Parker/Makoun/Petrov/Delph
AM: N'Zogbia/Albrighton/Ireland/Bannan
FW: Bent/Gabby/Fonz/Weimann
Wage bill would be looking a lot healthier & it'll be good that kids are going to get real chances, but it seems like a risky game to play, and one which could end up more expensive in long run - kids are likely to be inconsistent & McLeish can't really afford inconsistency while he's trying to win over fanbase. If this season is repeat of last & we are struggling in relegation battle come Christmas, either sacking McLeish or making Bent-style panic signings in January works out very expensive.
I think we really need to invest this summer in upgrades on Beye, Warnock & Cuellar (i.e. players who'll get in the first team - defence was crying out for overhaul last year) and another attacking midfield/wide player so we actually replace Young and Downing.
Blimey didn't realise the Villa squad was so thread thin, looks like you need at-least 2 new full backs, 2 centre backs, 2 CM's and another striker!! Could you see Mcleish going for 1 out an out winger on one side and a more playmaker/trequarstia on the other side, I could see it working with Bent and Gabbys work rate/willing to chase every through ball.
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
The Easter Bunny wrote:Blimey didn't realise the Villa squad was so thread thin, looks like you need at-least 2 new full backs, 2 centre backs, 2 CM's and another striker!! Could you see Mcleish going for 1 out an out winger on one side and a more playmaker/trequarstia on the other side, I could see it working with Bent and Gabbys work rate/willing to chase every through ball.
Yeah, I could see that. There's also been fairly heavy hints Ireland will be back in the mix and he can't play in CM in a 442 like that, so maybe some sort of wider role for him..
N'Zogbia's not really an out-and-out winger anyway, so if we sign him, perhaps the idea is to have Albrighton staying wide right & N'Zogbia starting left but coming inside. Gabby can drop out wide too where needed.
I think I'd rather we went for Bent by himself with 2 playing off him (Young & Downing replacements, or Gabby) and buy some fullbacks who can get forward and provide the width. Then play 2 holding midfielders from Petrov/Makoun/Delph/Signing?, along with Ireland/Bannan to provide a bit of creativity from the centre, which we've always lacked. Hard to play 442 in this league now, so many teams can just overcrowd you in CM.
Anyway it's difficult to really know what McLeish plans until he actually makes some signings & we start playing a few friendlies. He did talk about 442 with Gabby-Bent, but that was before he'd actually started working with the squad & at that point he was saying they were expecting to keep Downing. Things might have changed..
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Apparently McLeish has said he's only making one more major signing this summer (or possibly 'before the season starts', so there might be some panic signings at the end of the window).
So that'll be:
In - Given, N'Zogbia?
Out - Friedel, Reo-Coker, Downing, A.Young, Carew, Pires, Osbourne, Salifou, Walker (end of loan), Cuellar?.
Promising as likes of Albrighton, Clark, Bannan are, it is hard to see them performing over whole season. This seems like recipe for relegation battle.
So that'll be:
In - Given, N'Zogbia?
Out - Friedel, Reo-Coker, Downing, A.Young, Carew, Pires, Osbourne, Salifou, Walker (end of loan), Cuellar?.
Promising as likes of Albrighton, Clark, Bannan are, it is hard to see them performing over whole season. This seems like recipe for relegation battle.
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Why on earth a 5 year contract for Given?????
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Jaimito el Crack wrote:Why on earth a 5 year contract for Given?????
Only way we could convince him to sign, once we'd let him know we aren't bothering to sign anyone else
God knows. I mean, in theory, he could play till 40 like many keepers, but it is kinda crazy to assume it with the contract. Hope there's a clause for reduced wages if we get relegated.
Sgoater1- Number of posts : 11129
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
I was going to say dont worry with all the money from selling Downing and Young you will spash the cash and bring in 3 or 4 more at least...
SSN reports..
Alex McLeish has told Aston Villa fans to only expect one more summer signing, despite the recent sale of Stewart Downing and Ashley Young.
The departure of the England wingers brought in a total of around £35million, with around £3.5m of that being spent on Shay Given to succeed Brad Friedel as first-choice keeper.
But Given apart, McLeish has warned he will not be reinvesting much more of that money, with Wigan winger Charles N'Zogbia still a target.
Instead, the new Villa boss is giving the club's academy players and those out-of-favour under the previous regime the chance to fill the gaps left in his squad.
"We're trying to sign another one, and trying to replace the players who have left with players who are at the club," he said.
"For the time being, it will just be one and we'll be doing further assessment of the squad over the next few weeks.
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If it is just one signing you might have a few problems.
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
It is good that the kids are gonna get a chance, but I'd have a little more faith in it working if McLeish had any history of successfully bringing through young players & building a team that way. Seems an odd choice of manager if this is the aim.
I really don't see why we didn't just go with Kevin MacDonald if this is the plan - he's been working with the young players for a long time, he would've been cheap & easy to hire and fans would've been a lot more accommodating & patient with him than they will be with McLeish if positive results aren't quickly forthcoming.
I really don't see why we didn't just go with Kevin MacDonald if this is the plan - he's been working with the young players for a long time, he would've been cheap & easy to hire and fans would've been a lot more accommodating & patient with him than they will be with McLeish if positive results aren't quickly forthcoming.
Sgoater1- Number of posts : 11129
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
debaser wrote:It is good that the kids are gonna get a chance, but I'd have a little more faith in it working if McLeish had any history of successfully bringing through young players & building a team that way. Seems an odd choice of manager if this is the aim.
I really don't see why we didn't just go with Kevin MacDonald if this is the plan - he's been working with the young players for a long time, he would've been cheap & easy to hire and fans would've been a lot more accommodating & patient with him than they will be with McLeish if positive results aren't quickly forthcoming.
Yeah its good to see the kids get a chance but i think you need to add a few more new faces to have the strength to push for a top 10 spot. Why wont you spend some money i mean youve just made £40m from selling players and id have thought youd have had a bit of money to spend regardless of the sales. You should get Onuoha for right back, he's decent, young and wouldnt cost the world.
I hope you do well cos i do like Villa, its a shame that your team has been ripped apart over the last year or so when you had built a good team under MON and if you had kept those players and added a few more you could be chllenging for top 4 next season. Still if Big Mc can get the best out of the youngsters and add say PArker and Nzog then you will do well.
He has been speaking well of Ireland and if you can get the best out of him he could become a key player in your side....the problem is were to play him.
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Yeah I think it's pretty clear Ireland's gonna get a fresh chance this season. But this is the thing - he's got to count as one of the (few) experienced players in the squad, when really he's yet to do anything at Villa. He's as much of a risk as the kids in that way.
Onuoha's a decent call, I rate him, but RB is one of the few positions we're reasonably stocked - though I'd like a more attacking option there, as we had with Walker. L.Young is solid & Lichaj is fairly promising and we still have Beye as well. ain't gonna be adding anyone there unless we can find someone to take Beye off our hands. LB should be higher priority. Warnock the only natural LB in the squad and he's shit.
Onuoha's a decent call, I rate him, but RB is one of the few positions we're reasonably stocked - though I'd like a more attacking option there, as we had with Walker. L.Young is solid & Lichaj is fairly promising and we still have Beye as well. ain't gonna be adding anyone there unless we can find someone to take Beye off our hands. LB should be higher priority. Warnock the only natural LB in the squad and he's shit.
Sgoater1- Number of posts : 11129
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
debaser wrote:Yeah I think it's pretty clear Ireland's gonna get a fresh chance this season. But this is the thing - he's got to count as one of the (few) experienced players in the squad, when really he's yet to do anything at Villa. He's as much of a risk as the kids in that way.
Onuoha's a decent call, I rate him, but RB is one of the few positions we're reasonably stocked - though I'd like a more attacking option there, as we had with Walker. L.Young is solid & Lichaj is fairly promising and we still have Beye as well. ain't gonna be adding anyone there unless we can find someone to take Beye off our hands. LB should be higher priority. Warnock the only natural LB in the squad and he's shit.
I just thought with Walker going (plus Cuellar) youd be after an RB. Maybe McLeish can get the best out of Warnock cos he was decent a while back. You will need another striker with Heskey leaving.
Ireland is so unpredictable its anyones guess how he will do.
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Playing Blackburn today in some friendly Asian cup in Hong Kong.
Lineup
Given
L.Young-Dunne-Collins-Warnock
Bannan-Petrov-Makoun-Heskey
Gabby-Bent
Subs: Guzan, Albrighton, Delfouneso, Delph, Clark, Beye, Lichaj, Herd, Marshall, Lowry, Gardner.
Bear in mind the only senior players missing are Ireland & the not-quite signed N'Zogbia, and talk is we're not trying not to make any more signings, that sub bench shows how heavily we are going to be relying on the academy players this season. A bit scary, but makes it interesting. It's preferable to loading up on a load of mediocre past-it players (the Upsons & SWPs) as I feared we could do..
Still think we could do with bringing in a DM & some more defensive cover, but maybe loans or something
Lineup
Given
L.Young-Dunne-Collins-Warnock
Bannan-Petrov-Makoun-Heskey
Gabby-Bent
Subs: Guzan, Albrighton, Delfouneso, Delph, Clark, Beye, Lichaj, Herd, Marshall, Lowry, Gardner.
Bear in mind the only senior players missing are Ireland & the not-quite signed N'Zogbia, and talk is we're not trying not to make any more signings, that sub bench shows how heavily we are going to be relying on the academy players this season. A bit scary, but makes it interesting. It's preferable to loading up on a load of mediocre past-it players (the Upsons & SWPs) as I feared we could do..
Still think we could do with bringing in a DM & some more defensive cover, but maybe loans or something
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Heskey on the wing? What madness is this?
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Haven't been watching but that's what folks is saying. I don't think I'd be mistaken in saying Heskey has played wide at various points in his career. Certainly when he was younger & pacier he did.
Certainly not something I'm hoping to see much of, but games like this is as much getting fitness as anything.
Certainly not something I'm hoping to see much of, but games like this is as much getting fitness as anything.
christmasborocooper- Number of posts : 39348
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Yeah I do remember him playing on the left for England and at club level sometimes..but I thought those days were long gone. You'll be right though I would assume, since Zog is coming in.
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
Makoun and L.Young gone this weekend. Also Beye's talking to Hull.
These moves will leave us with a grand total of 10 outfield players over the age of 22
Looking forward to some deadline day action
These moves will leave us with a grand total of 10 outfield players over the age of 22
Looking forward to some deadline day action
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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What a deadline day. Unless there's any late twists, we've managed to recruit 2 utterly mediocre Spurs rejects to replace the 2 players we let go at the weekend. Zero improvements anywhere. Zero sign of any ambition. To call it underwhelming would be a vast over-statement.
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
I got love for villa debs and i am really hating the hand lerner has dealt you lot this season by hiring mcliesh. i hate it when decent clubs are given clowns like mcliesh
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Hutton and Jenas confirmed. Happy with that?
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Re: Aston Villa 2011/2012
forza_rossi wrote:I got love for villa debs and i am really hating the hand lerner has dealt you lot this season by hiring mcliesh. i hate it when decent clubs are given clowns like mcliesh
The really depressing thing is you can barely blame McLeish for the situation. He's inherited a ridiculous wage bill going back to MON days, and has been given limited freedom till likes of Heskey, Beye, Cuellar have their contract run out. That said, the choice of incoming is massively, massively uninspiring. I mean, Jenas is better than nothing for midfield, but ffs
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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shazlx wrote:Hutton and Jenas confirmed. Happy with that?
Meh. It's replacements for Young and Makoun, probably about breaks even. But no. Pretty miserable with the dealings in general.
Compare:
In: Given, N'Zogbia, Hutton, Jenas
Out: Friedel, Reo-Coker, Makoun, Downing, L.Young, A.Young, Carew + various kids and such
It's definitely a deficit in quality. Only hope is that likes of Bannan, Delfouneso, Clark thrive on the chances they will get..
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debaser wrote:shazlx wrote:Hutton and Jenas confirmed. Happy with that?
Meh. It's replacements for Young and Makoun, probably about breaks even. But no. Pretty miserable with the dealings in general.
Compare:
In: Given, N'Zogbia, Hutton, Jenas
Out: Friedel, Reo-Coker, Makoun, Downing, L.Young, A.Young, Carew + various kids and such
It's definitely a deficit in quality. Only hope is that likes of Bannan, Delfouneso, Clark thrive on the chances they will get..
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