Premier League Discussion 26th/27th November 2011

christmasborocooper wrote:Wenger certainly got Chamakh banging the goals in. So I can see no reason why Gervinho will be a different story.

Do u see Chamakh regularly getting himself into goal scoring positions? That's the difference.

Scoring goals is not only about composure and shot technique, but it also about high quality movement to get yourself into decent scoring positions. Chamakh lack that movement, something Gervinho (and Ade) have.

Anyway, even the current Gervinho is a very good player, u can see the difference when he doesn't start for us as we all saw yesterday against Fulham.

So Wenger can teach composure and shot technique, but not movement?

Seems like a rather limited magician to me.

Baffling people can't distinguish between some basic stuff on here.

Gary Speed

fucking hell

Shocking that.

R.I.P.

Shockingly sad

F365 says he hung himself.

RIP.

enke
rafati
speed

depression

Speed wasn't German though, he had so much to live for.

I've never read anything about Speed suffering with mental health problems, or supporting relevant organisations. He had a wife and 2 young sons. Such a shock.

Barry Glenison wrote:Speed wasn't German though, he had so much to live for.

I've never read anything about Speed suffering with mental health problems, or supporting relevant organisations. He had a wife and 2 young sons. Such a shock.

all i mentioned had families and children

ralf rangnick resigned as schalke coach because of burn out

deisler too

I hate the reaction to celeb deaths post Diana but this feels so very different.


I'm absolutely amazed by this - its not exactly Winehouse is it?

Very sad news - R.I.P.

Is Swansea v Villa going ahead ?

Can't see Ashley Williams, Joe Allen or James Collins being up for this.

It seems to be going ahead.

Fucking hell though..cant believe this.

RIP Speed

Glenn , nobody knew Enke was suffering from mental health issues either though.

Agree with Pierre. So out of the blue, and genuine top class player and was doing so well as Wales manager.

Really gutted

Pierre Littbarski wrote:I hate the reaction to celeb deaths post Diana but this feels so very different.


I'm absolutely amazed by this - its not exactly Winehouse is it?

Very sad news - R.I.P.

Is Swansea v Villa going ahead ?

Can't see Ashley Williams, Joe Allen or James Collins being up for this.

Indeeed. I wonder what he knew. RIP Gary "Nobby Solano's main man" Speed.

Hutton doing wonders for his reputation. Get this useless turd out of the team. A walking red card who offers nothing.

Noah und der Bale wrote:Glenn , nobody knew Enke was suffering from mental health issues either though.

perhaps we will get an explanation of Speed's situation over the coming weeks, it's a huge shock because his career seemed to be going so well, he was on Football Focus yesterday morning. Enke had been receiving therapy for several years prior to his death, and his young daughter had died a few years earliar. These sorts of things make suicide easier to comprehend, but there is nothing to understand - it's a disease where anything from paradoxical insignificances to running out of milk can cause you to want to end your life.

Puro wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:I hate the reaction to celeb deaths post Diana but this feels so very different.


I'm absolutely amazed by this - its not exactly Winehouse is it?

Very sad news - R.I.P.

Is Swansea v Villa going ahead ?

Can't see Ashley Williams, Joe Allen or James Collins being up for this.

Indeeed. I wonder what he knew. RIP Gary "Nobby Solano's main man" Speed.

Are you trying to put one of your pathetic conspiracy theory spins on this sad incident?

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Puro wrote:
Are you trying to put one of your pathetic conspiracy theory spins on this sad incident?

Relax buddy! Question everything, always question everything!

I don't get worked up at all if you quietly believe it was a suicide, do I?

This is depressing. RIP Speed.

Fucking hell, what a shocker. I grew up watching him for Newcastle, he was a great player for us and always seemed like a good man.

Puro wrote:

fcb wrote:

Puro wrote:
Are you trying to put one of your pathetic conspiracy theory spins on this sad incident?

Relax buddy! Question everything, always question everything!

I don't get worked up at all if you quietly believe it was a suicide, do I?

It would be nice to show some respect for once. I guess that's too much to ask from you.

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Puro wrote:
It would be nice to show some respect for once. I guess that's too much to ask from you.

Who do you think you are? the voice of reason? the truth? Question EVERYTHING that's all you f "I believe the official story" cb.

I can only assume Puro is in character when posting on here, otherwise that is one deluded, attention seeking motherfucker!

Noah und der Bale wrote:I can only assume Puro is in character when posting on here, otherwise that is one deluded, attention seeking motherfucker!

Good morning Khazar! so in your book I'm an attention seeking motherfucker because I just ask questions and I DO NOT believe the "official story"?

Were you there in the same room with Gary Speed when he died? I wasn't that's why I only have questions, and I will ALWAYS first question the "official story" and then will find holes in it, lots of holes. TFS you Khazar with 0tricks!

It's a bit early to start speculating about conspiracy theories. There could be all sorts of reasons why he killed himself.

Is there even an "official" story to question?

Not that ive seen. Puro just talking shit as usual.

Another hopeless performance with zero attacking ambition or plan. Only a vague hope that Agbonlahor pops up and does something. Bent is not in the game at all.

Need to bring on Bannan right now, so we have someone in midfield who can use the ball. Herd & Delph put in the running but neither are able to get on top of possession. And I cannot believe he keeps persisting with Heskey in midfield. Unfortunately the plan will be to keep it the same till about 60-70 mins, possibly waiting until we go behind. 0-0 is McLeish's happy place so why would he attempt to change anything