African Cup of Nations

What a nonsens about a plane why not discuss the joy the Africacup brings?

The best thing is its only 330 nights away from now!! It will be interesting to see what Herve Renard is gonna do, I heard he is gonna go to Ghana.

But perhaps a big club will give a chance now. Shows again what you can achieve with a squad full, of average but motivated, black players and a white leader at the helm! Be that on a footballfield or a cottonfield!

Fey wrote:What a nonsens about a plane why not discuss the joy the Africacup brings?

The best thing is its only 330 nights away from now!! It will be interesting to see what Herve Renard is gonna do, I heard he is gonna go to Ghana.

But perhaps a big club will give a chance now. Shows again what you can achieve with a squad full, of average but motivated, black players and a white leader at the helm! Be that on a footballfield or a cottonfield!

Then explain why no white coach has won it twice let alone three times while two Africans have done it - Charles Kumi Gyamfi and Hassan Shehata.

Fey wrote:What a nonsens about a plane why not discuss the joy the Africacup brings?

The best thing is its only 330 nights away from now!! It will be interesting to see what Herve Renard is gonna do, I heard he is gonna go to Ghana.

But perhaps a big club will give a chance now. Shows again what you can achieve with a squad full, of average but motivated, black players and a white leader at the helm! Be that on a footballfield or a cottonfield!

Nah

Last time around Zambia clearly had some talented players but they were partly unlucky but also just had a very bad defence. I remember that they were taking apart by Cameroon despite playing much better than them. Plus they have Chris Katongo who is an old favourite of mine from his time in Brøndby. Very underrated and he gets his fair due with the award for best player of the tournament.

I think Ghana are pretty well covered and if Frimpong gets going for Arsenal(looked promising last time I saw him) than they might have replaced one dynamic player(Boaten) with another.

Ivory Coast still haven't translated their qualitative superiority to actual results although I gues 2 finals out of 4 isn't bad. This time around they didn't want to get punished for being sloppy at the back so they seemed more cautious than anything but considering that some of the big guns were out they probably could have afforded to play it a bit more risky. Either way their big problem is still connecting midfield with attack. I think they should play Gervinho or Kalou behind Drogba and drop the 4-3-3 because they don't have the central midfielders for it.

worms wrote:

EMP wrote:

worms wrote:

EMP wrote:

Murray wrote:

EMP wrote:

Murray wrote:Hopefully the Gabonese won't shoot down the Zambian team's plane again.

That remark is in very poor taste. That was the worst plane-disaster to affect a national football team. Those players and others deserve some respect.

It's not in poor taste if it's true.

Murray: It's not true. The fault for that crash lies with the then Zambian government and possibly its FA. They penny-pinched and that resulted in a plane that was an Airforce heap of scrap metal which had not flaown in 5 months being used. It was not flight-worthy. When it landed in Brazzaville - its first stop - faults were noticed. It refuelled and they lert it fly to LIbreville. The faults were attended to in Libreville, but not well enough. It should never have been allowed to fly. It was a heap of junk. An engine caught fire and the pilot made a fatal error of switching off power to the wrong engine. He was very tired and should not have flown.

I am onto something very, very big about it that I will realease in a few days time, probably when I get back as I have to transcribe it. There is no evidence that Gabonese shot it down.

How retarded do you get to switch off the wrong engine

No. How retarded is it to force a knackered pilot to fly a long distance flight without proper rest after having flown another flight. An unflightworthy plane and a very tired pilot is a recipe for disaster.

No excuse at all,when something life threatening happens like a plane engine catching fire your adrenaline kicks in and you become alert.Being tired is a shit excuse,he only had to press a button or lever and he pushed/pulled the wrong one.

Whoever the pilot was was not fit to be a pilot.

Amazing viewpoint as ever worms.

Human beings make mistakes. And tired human beings under a great deal of stress are more likely to make mistakes. Yes, adrenaline kicks, but does it make someone who is tired make the right decisions?

Have you never pressed the wrong button? I am sure that every now and then you are switching between Serie A and La liga on your remote and you accidentally end up on EPL, you are not fit to operate a remote control

EMP, what's your take on the fact that all the Ivory Coast players who missed their penalties play in England?

Drogba during the match
Gervinho and Kolo Toure in the shoot out

This is what happens when you live in a country where the responsibility of taking a penalty is akin to being asked to perform life saving brain surgery on the Dalai Lama

110% wrote:

worms wrote:

EMP wrote:

worms wrote:

EMP wrote:

Murray wrote:

EMP wrote:

Murray wrote:Hopefully the Gabonese won't shoot down the Zambian team's plane again.

That remark is in very poor taste. That was the worst plane-disaster to affect a national football team. Those players and others deserve some respect.

It's not in poor taste if it's true.

Murray: It's not true. The fault for that crash lies with the then Zambian government and possibly its FA. They penny-pinched and that resulted in a plane that was an Airforce heap of scrap metal which had not flaown in 5 months being used. It was not flight-worthy. When it landed in Brazzaville - its first stop - faults were noticed. It refuelled and they lert it fly to LIbreville. The faults were attended to in Libreville, but not well enough. It should never have been allowed to fly. It was a heap of junk. An engine caught fire and the pilot made a fatal error of switching off power to the wrong engine. He was very tired and should not have flown.

I am onto something very, very big about it that I will realease in a few days time, probably when I get back as I have to transcribe it. There is no evidence that Gabonese shot it down.

How retarded do you get to switch off the wrong engine

No. How retarded is it to force a knackered pilot to fly a long distance flight without proper rest after having flown another flight. An unflightworthy plane and a very tired pilot is a recipe for disaster.

No excuse at all,when something life threatening happens like a plane engine catching fire your adrenaline kicks in and you become alert.Being tired is a shit excuse,he only had to press a button or lever and he pushed/pulled the wrong one.

Whoever the pilot was was not fit to be a pilot.

Amazing viewpoint as ever worms.

Human beings make mistakes. And tired human beings under a great deal of stress are more likely to make mistakes. Yes, adrenaline kicks, but does it make someone who is tired make the right decisions?

Have you never pressed the wrong button? I am sure that every now and then you are switching between Serie A and La liga on your remote and you accidentally end up on EPL, you are not fit to operate a remote control

Yes it does,that's what the fight and flight response is all about,you think clearer and more quickly than when you are in a normal state.

Metta World Peace wrote:EMP, what's your take on the fact that all the Ivory Coast players who missed their penalties play in England?

Drogba during the match
Gervinho and Kolo Toure in the shoot out

This is what happens when you live in a country where the responsibility of taking a penalty is akin to being asked to perform life saving brain surgery on the Dalai Lama

Clearly playing football in England has destroyed their ability to take penalties.

You do not think straight when tired. Hence the police campaign to stop people driving when tired. There is no way that pilot should have been allowed to fly without proper rest. There is a reason why pilots don't fly there and back on long haul flights. He was too tired to fly and that combined with a heap of junk that was unflightworthy caused this crash. It wasn't just down to Mhone, which is what the official reports say. The full reports including the state on the airborne death-trap have never been released.

worms wrote:

110% wrote:

worms wrote:

EMP wrote:

worms wrote:

EMP wrote:

Murray wrote:

EMP wrote:

Murray wrote:Hopefully the Gabonese won't shoot down the Zambian team's plane again.

That remark is in very poor taste. That was the worst plane-disaster to affect a national football team. Those players and others deserve some respect.

It's not in poor taste if it's true.

Murray: It's not true. The fault for that crash lies with the then Zambian government and possibly its FA. They penny-pinched and that resulted in a plane that was an Airforce heap of scrap metal which had not flaown in 5 months being used. It was not flight-worthy. When it landed in Brazzaville - its first stop - faults were noticed. It refuelled and they lert it fly to LIbreville. The faults were attended to in Libreville, but not well enough. It should never have been allowed to fly. It was a heap of junk. An engine caught fire and the pilot made a fatal error of switching off power to the wrong engine. He was very tired and should not have flown.

I am onto something very, very big about it that I will realease in a few days time, probably when I get back as I have to transcribe it. There is no evidence that Gabonese shot it down.

How retarded do you get to switch off the wrong engine

No. How retarded is it to force a knackered pilot to fly a long distance flight without proper rest after having flown another flight. An unflightworthy plane and a very tired pilot is a recipe for disaster.

No excuse at all,when something life threatening happens like a plane engine catching fire your adrenaline kicks in and you become alert.Being tired is a shit excuse,he only had to press a button or lever and he pushed/pulled the wrong one.

Whoever the pilot was was not fit to be a pilot.

Amazing viewpoint as ever worms.

Human beings make mistakes. And tired human beings under a great deal of stress are more likely to make mistakes. Yes, adrenaline kicks, but does it make someone who is tired make the right decisions?

Have you never pressed the wrong button? I am sure that every now and then you are switching between Serie A and La liga on your remote and you accidentally end up on EPL, you are not fit to operate a remote control

Yes it does,that's what the fight and flight response is all about,you think clearer and more quickly than when you are in a normal state.

Firstly it is fight OR flight I(nice connection with pilot btw), which is actually the release of adrenaline in preparation for violent muscular action (hence fight or flight). Being under stress does not make you think clearer or more quickly .

110% wrote:

worms wrote:

110% wrote:

worms wrote:

EMP wrote:

worms wrote:

EMP wrote:

Murray wrote:

EMP wrote:

Murray wrote:Hopefully the Gabonese won't shoot down the Zambian team's plane again.

That remark is in very poor taste. That was the worst plane-disaster to affect a national football team. Those players and others deserve some respect.

It's not in poor taste if it's true.

Murray: It's not true. The fault for that crash lies with the then Zambian government and possibly its FA. They penny-pinched and that resulted in a plane that was an Airforce heap of scrap metal which had not flaown in 5 months being used. It was not flight-worthy. When it landed in Brazzaville - its first stop - faults were noticed. It refuelled and they lert it fly to LIbreville. The faults were attended to in Libreville, but not well enough. It should never have been allowed to fly. It was a heap of junk. An engine caught fire and the pilot made a fatal error of switching off power to the wrong engine. He was very tired and should not have flown.

I am onto something very, very big about it that I will realease in a few days time, probably when I get back as I have to transcribe it. There is no evidence that Gabonese shot it down.

How retarded do you get to switch off the wrong engine

No. How retarded is it to force a knackered pilot to fly a long distance flight without proper rest after having flown another flight. An unflightworthy plane and a very tired pilot is a recipe for disaster.

No excuse at all,when something life threatening happens like a plane engine catching fire your adrenaline kicks in and you become alert.Being tired is a shit excuse,he only had to press a button or lever and he pushed/pulled the wrong one.

Whoever the pilot was was not fit to be a pilot.

Amazing viewpoint as ever worms.

Human beings make mistakes. And tired human beings under a great deal of stress are more likely to make mistakes. Yes, adrenaline kicks, but does it make someone who is tired make the right decisions?

Have you never pressed the wrong button? I am sure that every now and then you are switching between Serie A and La liga on your remote and you accidentally end up on EPL, you are not fit to operate a remote control

Yes it does,that's what the fight and flight response is all about,you think clearer and more quickly than when you are in a normal state.

Firstly it is fight OR flight I(nice connection with pilot btw), which is actually the release of adrenaline in preparation for violent muscular action (hence fight or flight). Being under stress does not make you think clearer or more quickly .

Here's where you're wrong,it does make you think faster and clearer.I know this from personal experience.Your heart pumps faster therefore more blood goes to your brain as well as your muscles.A bit like when your high of cocaine.

I bet you have very little experience of fight or flight as you probably just sit on the computer all day and watch Pokemon.



http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/print/559

"Put another way, extreme stress helps us to think faster."


http://www.brainskills.co.uk/fightorflight.html

"If you end up in a fight, you'll hit harder, jump higher and think and dodge faster than usual"

How long did you have to google to find an obscure link that tells you extreme stress helps think faster?

No matter how hard you google, you will never be able to show that extreme stress helps you to make decisions, when it is quite clearly the opposite. Being under stress won't help you admit you were wrong either

The last part you are agreeing with me, the adrenaline gets you ready for muscular action.

I am a little too old for Pokemon, but my computer or your armchair, what the difference?

They are holding one of these next year? What the fucking hell! Bollocks! 2 seasons in a row is totally unreasonable.

Africans are suckers for shit football just ask EMP.

Kimbo wrote:They are holding one of these next year? What the fucking hell! Bollocks! 2 seasons in a row is totally unreasonable.

They are changing it to odd years Kimbo, which is why they are doing it next year as well. It was due to be held in Libya. They could have waited to 2015 I guess, but as it pisses of Roscicky, it's far better that they do it in 2013.

@Rosicky: You know fuck all about Africa or its football and if you lived to infinity you wouldn't learn. Your opinion on both subjects is utterly worthless. Scouts went there and signed players to European football leagues and your team attends and signs players from it, so stop spouting your ignorant crap - its boring and pathetic and demonstrates that you really know bugger all about African football. The fact that the competition pisses you off makes it sweeter. It will be every two years. Get used to it!

EMP wrote:

Kimbo wrote:They are holding one of these next year? What the fucking hell! Bollocks! 2 seasons in a row is totally unreasonable.

They are changing it to odd years Kimbo, which is why they are doing it next year as well. It was due to be held in Libya. They could have waited to 2015 I guess, but as it pisses of Roscicky, it's far better that they do it in 2013.

@Rosicky: You know fuck all about Africa or its football and if you lived to infinity you wouldn't learn. Your opinion on both subjects is utterly worthless. Scouts went there and signed players to European football leagues and your team attends and signs players from it, so stop spouting your ignorant crap - its boring and pathetic and demonstrates that you really know bugger all about African football. The fact that the competition pisses you off makes it sweeter. It will be every two years. Get used to it!

Well I hope we don't buy any more Africans in the summer.

EMP wrote:

Kimbo wrote:They are holding one of these next year? What the fucking hell! Bollocks! 2 seasons in a row is totally unreasonable.

They are changing it to odd years Kimbo, which is why they are doing it next year as well. It was due to be held in Libya. They could have waited to 2015 I guess, but as it pisses of Roscicky, it's far better that they do it in 2013.

@Rosicky: You know fuck all about Africa or its football and if you lived to infinity you wouldn't learn. Your opinion on both subjects is utterly worthless. Scouts went there and signed players to European football leagues and your team attends and signs players from it, so stop spouting your ignorant crap - its boring and pathetic and demonstrates that you really know bugger all about African football. The fact that the competition pisses you off makes it sweeter. It will be every two years. Get used to it!

Looks like i caught another one. You need to chill out.

Btw, how is Philip Hughes coming along

Your agenda is boring and ignorant. Just like on Hughes, who is still a talent. He hasn't delivered anywhere near what he should, but he has time. Anyone who breaks a decades old George Headley record cannot be crap. You think you are winding me up over Africa, but I find your disrespect ignorant and tedious.

Nigeria's front three for this tournament >>>>>>>>

The Super Eagles return mes amis

Romford Pele wrote:Nigeria's front three for this tournament >>>>>>>>

The Super Eagles return mes amis

I'll be sure to keep an eye on them (and curse them if you haven't seen the error of your ways by then).

http://www.cafonline.com/football/news/15710-orange-can-2013-draw-conducted.html