Carling Cup Final + Premier League Discussion

Saturday 25th Feb 2012

Premier league

Chelsea v Bolton
Newcastle v Wolves
QPR v Fulham
West Brom v Sunderland
Wigan v Aston Villa
Man City v Blackburn

Sunday 26 February 2012

Premier League

Arsenal v Tottenham
Norwich v Man Utd
Stoke v Swansea

Carling Cup Final

Cardiff vs Liverpool

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The Carling Cup is the best trophy in world football.

Villas Boas has to win this game or he'll be sacked in the morning.

Newcastle face their first real test of the season.

I need to put Tevez in my fantasy football team.

Arsenal vs Spurs.

Football

It's kinda sad that the Carling Cup final is the 3rd most interesting fixture on Sunday (and even Stoke-Swansea could give interesting contrast in styles).

That said it's better than all of Saturday's fixtures..

The Carling Cup final clashes with the rugby and is therefore irrelevant.

Chinagogues

debaser wrote:It's kinda sad that the Carling Cup final is the 3rd most interesting fixture on Sunday (and even Stoke-Swansea could give interesting contrast in styles).

That said it's better than all of Saturday's fixtures..

Indeed.

Just hope we don't do an Arsenal and fuck up our best chance of a trophy in years.

Delighted to be back in a cup final; don't care if it just the Carling Cup, it's where Liverpool belong and we've had to play full strength Stoke, Chelsea and City teams to get here so it hasn't been easy by any means.

Win on sunday, hopefully get to Wembley again for the semis of the FA cup and pull off a massive win over Arsenal next week at Anfield and our season could be very interesting.

hands up if you're going to the Carling Cup Final

100,000 Scousers and Welshers all shitting in bags in unison. It's gonna be great.

I would rather spend my money on going to watch Barca vs Valencia instead

Hopefully the organisers at Wembley will replace the usual club flags with club bags under the seats for when the fans need to go to toilet at half time.

Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:hands up if you're going to the Carling Cup Final

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I'm going to the game this weekend and I'm actually quite confident. Being the underdog in this game will suit us. The fans will get behind the team for sure, and i'm sure the team will react.

I can't even imagining losing this game this weekend so I think we'll win 2-1. Can't wait

If Van Persie doesn't have a good game can't see where Arsenal's threat will come from.

Spurs have far more players with the ability to hurt you; Bale, Adebayor, VDV, Modric

If Spurs perform they will win this game.

RVP is the main threat no doubt but if Spurs open up which I expect them to do, there'll be space for the likes of Gervinho and AOC to exploit.

It's not as straight forward as you think. If Koscielny makes it back to partner Vermaelen, i'm confident.

If Djourou plays, we're fucked.

Romford Pele wrote:RVP is the main threat no doubt but if Spurs open up which I expect them to do, there'll be space for the likes of Gervinho and AOC to exploit.

It's not as straight forward as you think. If Koscielny makes it back to partner Vermaelen, i'm confident.

If Djourou plays, we're fucked.

We're fucked.

I can't share your confidence Parlour. I'll be grateful if we are spared a hammering. Sorry to be negative but that's my honest opinion. I'm not even going to watch the match (gotta work ).

@ Crazy58

Even some of the worst Spurs teams that I've ever had the displeasure to witness still managed to eek out a result in the NLD at home; the team that finished 14th with 45pts and a minus 10 GD in 2003-04 still got a draw at home against the invincible's (it was enough to win you the league, but still)

--------------------K Keller

S Kelly----A Gardner---------- L King------ M Taricco

S Davies-----M Brown--------J Redknapp-----J Jackson

-----------F Kanoute--------- R Keane

What you have iss still far better than that crap. Henry & Pires outscored the Spurs team on their own that year!

Henry & Pires are legends

Deluded F*ck wrote:@ Crazy58

Even some of the worst Spurs teams that I've ever had the displeasure to witness still managed to eek out a result in the NLD at home; the team that finished 14th with 45pts and a minus 10 GD in 2003-04 still got a draw at home against the invincible's (it was enough to win you the league, but still)

--------------------K Keller

S Kelly----A Gardner---------- L King------ M Taricco

S Davies-----M Brown--------J Redknapp-----J Jackson

-----------F Kanoute--------- R Keane

What you have iss still far better than that crap. Henry & Pires outscored the Spurs team on their own that year!

There is a difference between doggedly average teams and a one with pretensions to superiority (which we still are, for some reason against all evidence available). The former are used to taking a battering and know about damage limitation. We don't. If the opponent get on top of us we capitulate.

Deluded F*ck wrote:@ Crazy58

Even some of the worst Spurs teams that I've ever had the displeasure to witness still managed to eek out a result in the NLD at home; the team that finished 14th with 45pts and a minus 10 GD in 2003-04 still got a draw at home against the invincible's (it was enough to win you the league, but still)

--------------------K Keller

S Kelly----A Gardner---------- L King------ M Taricco

S Davies-----M Brown--------J Redknapp-----J Jackson

-----------F Kanoute--------- R Keane

What you have iss still far better than that crap. Henry & Pires outscored the Spurs team on their own that year!

As TheCrazy58 says, limited though that team was, they did try to disrupt Arsenal and make it a battle. I'm not sure our current side has that in them to make life difficult for better teams.

Plus, I always got the impression that Arsenal could have won that game at WHL if they had kept their focus. They completely outplayed Spurs in the first half and then coasted through the second half safe in the knowledge that they were going to become champions. I don't think they would have let you back into the game if that was just a step on the way to the title. It also relied on a Crazy Jens moment in injury time to rescue you the point as well!

Romford Pele, I worry that if it is an open game with lots of space, Spurs are going to be better equipped to exploit it. I'm not confident of us getting anything out of the match tomorrow.

Spurs side that drew 1-1 with Arsenal (eventual champions) in November 2001:

-------------------Sullivan

-------Perry-------Richards---------King
Taricco-----------------------------------Ziege
--------Anderton----Freund----Poyet

-----------Sheringham-----Ferdinand

Subs: Beasant, Thatcher, Bunjevcevic, Davies, Rebrov.

Ben Arfa still can't get in the Newcastle team and neither can Marveaux.

Papiss and Dema up top but Tiote is back.

AVB reacts to the media pressure by recalling Lampard and Cole.

Torres' good run of fortune continues as he is spared 90 minutes of embarassment for the 2nd game running.

Cech
Ivanovic-Cahill-Luiz-Cole
Ramires-Essien-Lampard
Stuppidge-Drogba-Mata

S4P wrote:AVB reacts to the media pressure by recalling Lampard and Cole.

Torres' good run of fortune continues as he is spared 90 minutes of embarassment for the 2nd game running.

Cech
Ivanovic-Cahill-Luiz-Cole
Ramires-Essien-Lampard
Stuppidge-Drogba-Mata

Big game for Chelsea today; dropped points and it's surely the end for AVB.

Don't think players like Drogba are really assed at the moment; he probably wants AVB to go.

Hopefully (and I say this after every managerial sacking) this will be the end of Abramovich's meddling with the football side of the club. This current crop of players couldn't win the Champions League in their prime, let alone win it now.

The squad needs a complete overhaul. Cech is fine - will never be as good as he was pre-Stephen Hunt - but is solid enough and I can't see us getting a better keeper on the cheap. Essien is still young enough but has had too many serious injuries. Sadly I think we may have seen the best of him. Luiz isn't good enough to be a CB at this level. Personally I'd keep AVB and start building a new team around Cech, Ramires, Mata and Sturridge. But sadly I think Abramovich will sack AVB and the new manager will continue to select Lampard, Terry, Drogba etc next season.

And you have Courtois don't you, so a ready made replacement waiting for Cech in the wings?

Newcastle passing their first real test of the season.

Luis wrote:Newcastle passing their first real test of the season.

Just the 6 points ahead of Liverpool now.

Hlebagone wrote:And you have Courtois don't you, so a ready made replacement waiting for Cech in the wings?

And we also have Ross Turnbull

Wolves

Ross Turnbull

How's he actually rated at Chelsea, S4P?

Has he ever done alright?

Rosicky wrote:

Luis wrote:Newcastle passing their first real test of the season.

Just the 6 points ahead of Liverpool now.

You do realise they're ahead of Arsenal now as well?

Cisse and Ba looks like a great strike force.

christmasborocooper wrote:Ross Turnbull

How's he actually rated at Chelsea, S4P?

Has he ever done alright?

Like Pinto is rated at Barcelona I imagine. He seems content to just sit on the bench all season, playing the occasional Carling Cup game. He's done alright whenever he's played, without ever looking spectacular.