Liverpool FC Thread 2012/2013

Georgi Glenkladze wrote:this season I'm going to try not to relentlessly defend our manager and players - even though every time I have in the past I have been proved right.

I am getting on the Gerrard out bandwagon. Let him be a squad/utility player and build a new team without him.

Marko Krizmancic

the decision for sigurddson is not Liverpool:money of Tottenham:big money. I think that he want Liverpool 'cos of Rodgers and for the club wich is sooo better than Tottenham. But there's a problem. In Liverpool he'll find Gerrard, Lucas, Adam, Henderson, Shelvey, Cole... in Tottenham the only one player who can play instead of him is Modric who is leaving. I understand if he choose Tottenham, in Liverpool are less space for him.

Andy’s handy, says Milan transfer guru

Pier Silvio Berlusconi, son of Milan owner Silvio Berlusconi, is president of Mediaset – the holding company that owns the Italian giants – and has acted as a consultant on transfers.

Milan are in the process of rejuvenating their ageing squad with the likes of Clarence Seedorf and Mark van Bommel shown the door this summer.

And Berlusconi Jr has identified England and Liverpool powerhouse Carroll as a player he would like to see in the black and red of Milan in the future.

He said: “This is a new era for Milan. We will continue to get younger while maintaining the culture. Milan still has its superstars.

“As a future target I’d like Andy Carroll.

“I must admit that, for his body build, and after seeing his header in the Euros, I would like to have Carroll at Milan.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4408997/Andy-Carroll-transfer-Liverpool-striker-wanted-by-AC-Milans-transfer-guru.html

Fey wrote:Surely Liverpool are gonna sign Joe Allen from Swansea!

Chintastic player that one.

Disco Benny wrote: What is wrong with Jordan Henderson? Is that a syndrome?

Bashmachkin wrote:I think that Rodgers is mismanaging Carroll. He's a player who lacked form throughout most of last season, and seemed shorn of confidence in part because he frequently wasn't starting games and didn't seem to have the wholehearted trust of his manager; but he finally began improving towards the season's close, scoring a few important goals, against Blackburn and in the Cup, and then put in a good showing for England at the European Championships. Now Rodgers has already essentially questioned his mentality, made clear that he isn't an important part of his plans, and said that he will readily send Carroll on loan if a decent offer comes in. I think last season showed that Carroll needs support rather than any sort of gauntlet being thrown down; I think he'll react negatively to and take against Rodgers for his recent comments whereas he could have started the season on a high.

I also don't really see why Carroll wouldn't be a part of any manager's plans. He is fantastic at heading the ball, the best forward at winning the ball in the air that I've seen, and he is very strong, but he isn't some sort of anachronism, purely an 'old-fashioned' centre-forward. For a start, he isn't that good at holding the ball up, but sometimes likes to drop a bit deeper; his first touch isn't perfect, but it isn't bad, and with the ball he has sufficient control and strength to go on good runs; and he has the awareness and the technique to pass the ball really well. He is abused by the limited perception of his game, and by lazy and unintelligent footballers who will always lump the ball to a tall forward.

110% wrote:Carroll wasn't starting because he was poor when he played. At the end of the season he found himself not in the England squad and tried harder and then looked a decent player. Bash could be right that he reacts negatively to Rodgers' comments, but that is just because Carroll's attitude stinks.

Spoiler:

COTR wrote:
Andy Carroll played well in about three games for us last season. He was an unmitigated disaster with almost no redeeming features.

Can he turn it around ? I certainly wouldn't be placing any money on it.

I would much prefer to focus on getting a footballing centre forward in to build the team around. Carroll is pretty much a lost cause if you want to focus on quick and fluid football. Rodgers knows this, hence the comments.

Kimbo wrote:

COTR wrote:
Andy Carroll played well in about three games for us last season. He was an unmitigated disaster with almost no redeeming features.

Can he turn it around ? I certainly wouldn't be placing any money on it.

I would much prefer to focus on getting a footballing centre forward in to build the team around. Carroll is pretty much a lost cause if you want to focus on quick and fluid football. Rodgers knows this, hence the comments.

Does Dalglish not get any blame for destroying Carroll as a footballer?

110% wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

COTR wrote:
Andy Carroll played well in about three games for us last season. He was an unmitigated disaster with almost no redeeming features.

Can he turn it around ? I certainly wouldn't be placing any money on it.

I would much prefer to focus on getting a footballing centre forward in to build the team around. Carroll is pretty much a lost cause if you want to focus on quick and fluid football. Rodgers knows this, hence the comments.

Does Dalglish not get any blame for destroying Carroll as a footballer?

Carroll fans blame Dalglish, but then why was he good in the last few games of the season? I read that he was a boozer, and I said months ago his fitness looks shit. Instead of muscling players out of the way, he struggled to even get to the ball before the defenders. At the end of the season he wanted to go to the Euros so he worked on his fitness and looked a lot better. This season will he be a boozer or a professional, only time will tell.