Champions League Semi Finals Thread

Is Reus a starter for Germany now ? Surely there is nobody better than him at LAM ?

It's really quite sad that Gotze is leaving Dortmund. Why are footballers such c**ts? He could stay there and become a Wojciech Szeszny playing for the most hipster club in the World, the 'good' to Bayern's 'evil' (although admittedly, on the European stage the Bavarians aren't that dislikable really).

I get it, it's about the money, he needs more of it for those extra trips to the sunbeds and everyone knows Toni and Guy is super expensive.

Nothing I have to say at this point hasn't already been done so to death, but fuck me, when a club like Dortmund can't hold onto it's talent, what hope is there for any club that isn't one of those rich, monopolizing football corporations that bring nothing but misery, plastic fan smuggery and a general lack of variety to this once awesome sport.

Always remember 'Red Star Belgrade'. In other words, a happier time

True, but Red Star lost all their players too eventually.

Jaime wrote:True, but Red Star lost all their players too eventually.

Sure, but Dortmund have been at a pinnacle of sorts for only about 2.5 seasons. So much potential to build a dynasty.

Let's compare Pellegrini's tactics to the "Special ones":

http://spielverlagerung.de/2013/04/21/english-borussia-dortmund-malaga-c-f-32/

http://spielverlagerung.de/2013/04/26/english-borussia-dortmund-real-madrid-41/

Kroos wrote:

MightyBarca wrote:

Jaime wrote:Not sure about that forum. In the Real Madrid section some of the posters are proposing Ruben De la Red as a replacement for Jose.

Simply put they were the greatest team ever. And i dont't think bayern will be as dominant as barca were because barca in prime would hammer bayrn in prime.

i doubt that bayern already peaked

besides robbery, every player will get better

depends also on PEP and his tactics

but i agree, BARCA was probably the best side in football history

Il Grande Torino.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:German football really on the up, and its not just at club level - with the likes of Martinez, Ribery, Robben and Lewandowski they'll be a real force in Brazil 2014

You think Poland will make it to Brasil?

Bild:

Wird Deutschland die neue Fußball-Macht?

Huntelaar: Es war beeindruckend, wie Real und Barcelona weggespielt wurden. Ganz souverän, ohne Glück. Die Bundesliga ist für mich die schönste Liga, in der ich bisher gespielt habe. Und vielleicht auch die beste, ja! Das Gesamtpaket stimmt einfach!



which begs the question

will van Persie ever be taken seriously as a world class striker before having proven his worth in the Bundesliga ?

AND

is he ready to now take the next step

by replacing Lewa at Dortmund ?

nice words from HUNTER, makes him more likebale

EMP wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:German football really on the up, and its not just at club level - with the likes of Martinez, Ribery, Robben and Lewandowski they'll be a real force in Brazil 2014

You think Poland will make it to Brasil?

YOU THINK

----------------Neuer
Lahm-Boateng-Hummels-Schmelzer
----Bender-Schweinsteiger/Gündogan
Müller--Götze/özil-Reus
------gomez

jesus what a team, and everyone played in the semi final

Kroos wrote:nice words from HUNTER, makes him more likebale

EMP wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:German football really on the up, and its not just at club level - with the likes of Martinez, Ribery, Robben and Lewandowski they'll be a real force in Brazil 2014

You think Poland will make it to Brasil?

YOU THINK

----------------Neuer
Lahm-Boateng-Hummels-Schmelzer
----Bender-Schweinsteiger/Gündogan
Müller--Götze/özil-Reus
------gomez

jesus what a team, and everyone played in the semi final

Kroos, I don't disagree about Germany being a force. I was teasing him and you a bit as his post could be read that he had included Lewandowski, who is part of Poland's team, in the German national team, hence my highlighting Lewandowski's name rather than the others that he mentioned.

Ä wrote:Bild:

Wird Deutschland die neue Fußball-Macht?

Huntelaar: Es war beeindruckend, wie Real und Barcelona weggespielt wurden. Ganz souverän, ohne Glück. Die Bundesliga ist für mich die schönste Liga, in der ich bisher gespielt habe. Und vielleicht auch die beste, ja! Das Gesamtpaket stimmt einfach!



which begs the question

will van Persie ever be taken seriously as a world class striker before having proven his worth in the Bundesliga ?

AND

is he ready to now take the next step

by replacing Lewa at Dortmund ?

Klopp did say last season when we played them that RVP was the best striker he had ever seen.

Quotes here: http://www.goal.com/en/news/15/germany/2013/01/17/3678585/van-persie-the-best-forward-ever-says-klopp

What hast Van Persie done outside the Premier League ?

In the WC he was average.
In the last Euros he was shit, in 2008 he weren't a starter.
In the CL he is average and has missed a couple of important sitters the last few seasons(against Milan and Real Madrid). He has hardly scored in the knockout stages.

These two games are going to be the most boring CL SF 2nd Legs ever. Which is a shame as the CL has been great this year. Hopefully the final will be a good game anyway.

I just can't see Madrid having a chance of progressing tonight. If you take into account not just their results but also their performances against other top teams under Mourinho. Apart from Barcelona of course, who this team seems built to play against.

The games I am talking about are the 3 games vs Dortmund, 2 games vs United, 2 games vs Bayern Munich last season. Even to an extent against Man City at Home where Madrid where outplayed from 20 minutes onwards.

All these games Madrid where made to look very ordinary and one dimensional,when they can't just steamroller over teams with less talent and are denied the space to counter attack then they have very few answers. I don't see how that can change all of a sudden under Mourinho who doesn't seem to have the solutions Madrid need, even long term Mourinho hasn't really tried to improve things in this regard.

Big Willy wrote:I just can't see Madrid having a chance of progressing tonight. If you take into account not just their results but also their performances against other top teams under Mourinho. Apart from Barcelona of course, who this team seems built to play against.

The games I am talking about are the 3 games vs Dortmund, 2 games vs United, 2 games vs Bayern Munich last season. Even to an extent against Man City at Home where Madrid where outplayed from 20 minutes onwards.

All these games Madrid where made to look very ordinary and one dimensional,when they can't just steamroller over teams with less talent and are denied the space to counter attack then they have very few answers. I don't see how that can change all of a sudden under Mourinho who doesn't seem to have the solutions Madrid need, even long term Mourinho hasn't really tried to improve things in this regard.

i agree with everything, MOU has fucked it up, maybe he thought it would be enough just to beat barca with those tactics, and he underestimated other clubs and leagues on his way to CL glory

or he is just a medicore tactical coach, i think its a bit of both

EMP wrote:

Kroos wrote:nice words from HUNTER, makes him more likebale

EMP wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:German football really on the up, and its not just at club level - with the likes of Martinez, Ribery, Robben and Lewandowski they'll be a real force in Brazil 2014

You think Poland will make it to Brasil?

YOU THINK

----------------Neuer
Lahm-Boateng-Hummels-Schmelzer
----Bender-Schweinsteiger/Gündogan
Müller--Götze/özil-Reus
------gomez

jesus what a team, and everyone played in the semi final

Kroos, I don't disagree about Germany being a force. I was teasing him and you a bit as his post could be read that he had included Lewandowski, who is part of Poland's team, in the German national team, hence my highlighting Lewandowski's name rather than the others that he mentioned.

i know

A bit of both.

Should have known better after getting outplayed by Bayern last season.

So I was thinking, maybe play Modric in place of that facking runner Khedira ?

Going by Dortmunds performance at the Bernabeu earlier in the season added to the fact they have a handsome lead in this tie leads me to believe Dortmund will sit deep tonight and make it difficult to break them down. As we all know Khedira is useless in these situations and he would be inevitably left free as Dortmund concentrate their defensive efforts on Alonso. But would a pivot of Alonso and Modric be up to scratch defensively? I think it's a risk worth taking...

There was a rumour that Jose was contemplating Modric-Alonso in the middle. I have my doubts that he would ever sacrifice Khedira but maybe. More likely that we'll see Benzema and Higuain although personally I want Di Maria instead of the frenchie.

Twitter rumours starting to heat up. Modric might be in the XI after all...

Real Madrid XI: Diego López, Essien, Sergio Ramos, Varane, Coentrao, Alonso, Modric, Di María, Özil, Ronaldo, Higuaín

#goingforit

Same XI for Dortmund: Weidenfeller, Piszczek, Subotic, Hummels, Schmelzer, Bender, Gündogan, Blaszczykowski, Götze, Reus, Lewandowski

It's actually a bit disgraceful how Madrid and Barca have cost the second legs from being anything good. Shame on them.

XI Juanitos wrote:Real Madrid XI: Diego López, Essien, Sergio Ramos, Varane, Coentrao, Alonso, Modric, Di María, Özil, Ronaldo, Higuaín

#goingforit

Looks like Jose reads Euroboard

Lewis you support Liverpool, a team not good enough to qualify for the Europa League by the looks of it.

Big Willy wrote:

XI Juanitos wrote:Real Madrid XI: Diego López, Essien, Sergio Ramos, Varane, Coentrao, Alonso, Modric, Di María, Özil, Ronaldo, Higuaín

#goingforit

Looks like Jose reads Euroboard

Lewis you support Liverpool, a team not good enough to qualify for the Europa League by the looks of it.

You are a moron

Luis wrote:It's actually a bit disgraceful how Madrid and Barca have cost the second legs from being anything good. Shame on them.

Funny that's what I was saying at halftime of the 2005 CL final. #impossibleisnothing

Game could get interesting if Real take a fairly early lead. would rule it out completely. of course if Dortmund score first, it's basically game over.

XI Juanitos wrote:

Luis wrote:It's actually a bit disgraceful how Madrid and Barca have cost the second legs from being anything good. Shame on them.

Funny that's what I was saying at halftime of the 2005 CL final. #impossibleisnothing

You guys maybe have a chance if you score in the first 5 minutes.

Barca have 0 chance.

Just a bit mental how you both got spanked.

if Villa can score 6, anything in football is possible.