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Tottenham Hotspur 2013 / 14
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Mauricio Pochettino appointed new Head Coach
"The Club is delighted to announce the appointment of Mauricio Pochettino as our new Head Coach on a five-year contract."
"The Club is delighted to announce the appointment of Mauricio Pochettino as our new Head Coach on a five-year contract."
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This is probably the best blog/opinion on the Poch signing I've seen (written just before he was announced):
bankrupt spurs wrote:I am not a football chairman. I have no friends who are football chairmen. I’ve never hung out with football chairmen; never made drunken, misogynistic comments with them to help them impress an undercover journalist in an unconvincing ‘Middle Eastern billionaire’ costume. I’ve never spoken to a football chairman; never tried desperately to convince them not to blow their club’s revenue on superfluous items like decorative boardroom goldfish, platinum statues of their pop star mates, or Stewart Downing. I’ve never experienced any kind of intimate moment with a football chairman that may have given me some insight into the way they think; never snuggled up on a tanning bed alongside blonde bombshell Simon Jordan, or sat on the knee of kindly grandpa-type John W. Henry while he stuffed me full of Werther’s Originals and reminded me that, when he were a lad, this were all just baseball fields.
No, I’m definitely not a football chairman. Nor, dear reader, unless you are John W. Henry and this has been passed on by a libel lawyer, are you. As such, this strange breed of individual remains a mystery to both you and I. None more so than in the case of our own Dear Leader, Daniel Levy. Consequently, trying to predict a football chairman’s intentions and actions can be a thankless task. But, if I were averse to thankless tasks, I wouldn’t be a Spurs fan, now would I? So, here goes…
When ENIC strolled into N17 on a tidal wave of goodwill that formed largely due to them not being Alan Sugar (back when he was plain old Venables-firing git Alan Sugar, rather than hair-gelled-anthropomorphisations-of-management-speak-firing national treasure Sir Lord Archduke Sugar) the year was 2001.
To put that in context, their involvement in the club stretches back to an era where accessing Internet smut involved minutes of frustrated clicking to actually get a picture link to start loading, then heading off to make a cuppa while the modem whirred and spluttered into life; all the while hoping that a family member didn’t walk in to discover a heavily pixelated, half-loaded nipple.
And talking of boobs, since that day, ENIC, whose ‘5-year plan’ is now in its 13th year, have appointed then subsequently ditched 7 managers, assuming you don’t count the 19 times David Pleat has caretaken. It is a familiar crossroads we find ourselves at right now. This time, though, perhaps more so than any other, there is no obvious direction that takes us ‘forward’. Even Daniel Levy’s usual tactic – going for the polar opposite of the last guy, such that Martin ‘one of the lads’ Jol begat Juande ‘take away the lads’ ketchup’ Ramos begat Harry ‘run around a bit’ Redknapp begat André ‘run around a bit in this specific rhombic pattern, I’ve drawn you 17 diagrams to make it clearer’ Villas-Boas – doesn’t point to any single contender.
CANDIDATES
At the time of writing, it would seem the two most likely people to be collecting their P45 from Levy’s office in December 2015 are Frank De Boer and Mauricio Pochettino. Beyond them, there are outside bets like Rafa Benitez, Roberto Mancini. And then, for those that mostly spend their days sat rocking back and forth in a darkened room with their underwear perched atop their heads, there is the possibility of luring triple Champions League winner Carlo Ancelotti.
Despite, as I have pointed out, having no working knowledge of how the mind of a football chairman works, and despite not being a ‘proper football man’ who ‘understands the game’, I believe, from the aforementioned candidates, Daniel Levy is going to choose Mauricio Pochettino. Furthermore, I believe we should all be excited at this prospect.
I’ll lay my cards on the table – I instinctively like Pochettino. His Southampton side were, alongside Liverpool, the team I most enjoyed watching last season; playing high-tempo attacking football within a clearly well-defined system. More importantly, I like him because his appearance resembles a hard-ass Detective in an 80s cop show; streetwise and prepared to play outside the rules, but carrying the weary demeanour of a man constantly battling to get results without the DA busting his balls.
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I realise that opinions I have observed with my own head will not be enough to convince some of you, and these days what matters to what Jamie Redknapp would probably call ‘laptop fans’ is the football vernacular’s very own Esperanto: the stat. So, for those of you who aren’t prepared to commit to an opinion until someone has a produced a figure for how it will affect James Milner’s blood-sugar level, here are a couple of juicy titbits of empirical nonsense…
During the 2013/14 Premier League season, the team with the highest average possession was Pochettino’s Southampton at 58.6%, and defensively only Man City conceded fewer shots per game (9.6) than them. What this suggests, aside from nothing, is a well drilled team both on and off the ball, and that kind of organisation would be a welcome change for a Spurs team that last season saw Andros Townsend coming on as a sub and then having to ask the coaching staff where he was supposed to be playing.
STYLE OF PLAY
Picture an alternate reality, where, for example, Harry Redknapp is a wheeler-dealer not a fackin’ football manager, and Kyle Naughton has a left foot. Spurs are linked with some fancy-dan, Carlos Coach-a-ball overseas manager who is a disciple of the high priest of pressing, Marcelo Bielsa, playing a fast, technical, attacking brand of football, with a super-fit team energetically closing down opponents for 90 minutes. A manager who has proven he can implement his ideas at modest teams, which have then gone on to overachieve as a consequence of his work. I guarantee EVERY Spurs fan would be taking to the virtual streets to shout loudly that Levy would be an idiot not to ask this manager to name his price. Unfortunately for Pochettino, in THIS reality he finds himself coming from the slightly less exotic locale of Southampton. While, on paper, supporters would normally be drooling over this kind of young manager, familiarity breeds indifference, a prophet is never recognised in his own land, and other clichés.
The fact is, though, that Pochettino’s style of play is exactly in keeping with many of the tenets of the mythical ‘Tottenham Way’. Many fans have spent the past couple of years decrying our ‘slow build up play’ and lack of tempo. Well, teams don’t get much higher tempo than Poch’s, and his commitment to an attacking game, even against clubs much bigger than his own, should be clear to anyone who has watched his Southampton side beat the likes of Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea over the past season and half.
CLUB STRUCTURE
One of the defining characteristics of Levy’s tenure has been too many cooks spoiling the broth. We have a metric fuckload of technical directors, directors of football, technical coordinators, development directors, technical development coordinators, directors of coordination, coordination directors and Les Ferdinand. Whilst there is possibly nothing wrong with that in principle, it becomes substantially more problematic when all of the above have differing philosophies, and are happy to play each other off in the corridors of power leading to Levy’s office, as has been the case in the past decade, stretching back as far as Hoddle and Pleat.
Here, Pochettino has the advantage of being a coach that is focused down the chain, as it were. He is considered to be a manager who is primarily concerned with developing young players; taking an interest in their progress long before they hit the first team squad. He has shown less intent to dabble in goings-on further up the hierarchy, which is just as well given the, at times, complex boardroom situation at Southampton. That said, he did leave Espanyol due to players being sold out from under him. Fortunately, there’s no evidence of that sort of thing ever happening at Spurs ever, at all… no chance. So, it’ll be fine. Erm, moving swiftly on…
MEDIA
A notoriously media-shy character, whose distrust of journalists means he rarely communicates directly to fans, preferring his words to be delivered via a trusted third party. But enough on Daniel Levy, what about Pochettino?
Yes, it’s easy to see why Levy would feel kinship with a manager who, despite clearly holding strong opinions, has a somewhat pathological distrust of the media. Our esteemed Dear Leader rarely makes his feelings public, save for the notorious ‘open letters’ that appear on the official website, typically within hours of us ballsing something up.
Contrary to the impression you may have gotten from Pochettino insisting that his interpreter holds his hand through interviews, the Argentine speaks good English. As evidenced by his (possibly ‘merry’) appearance at Southampton’s end of season awards dinner in 2013.
A year on from this, his English has improved, as anyone who has encountered him away from the cameras will tell you, and he even accidentally slipped into his adopted tongue during a Match Of The Day interview a few weeks ago.
Pochettino’s insistence on not speaking directly to the media, despite clearly being articulate enough to do so, is evidence of an astute understanding of an English press pack that is often hostile to foreign coaches, particularly those that replace popular English managers like Nigel Adkins. It’s fair to say that the last two incumbents at Spurs both contributed to their own downfall through their interactions with the press (though for almost polar opposite reasons), and personally, I would actually welcome a manager like Pochettino who has little interest in engaging with the media, and prefers to let his work speak for itself. That said, I’d imagine Levy would insist on Pochettino communicating in English to avoid another Juande Ramos-esque PR own goal. Speaking directly to fans would also help him win over the doubters amongst us, and perhaps a compromise would be for him to adopt the policy of our Dear Leader, and speak English only via in-house channels.
DEALING WITH PLAYERS
The Southampton players love Pochettino. That much is clear from the way they’ve been queuing up to sing his praises ever since rumours of his departure first surfaced. There has also been some suggestion that it was the players who canvassed for Pochettino to be given more time when Southampton were on a bad run during the first half of last season. It’s hard to imagine the Spurs players ever doing something like that. More likely we’d see the untimely appearance of their agents in the media, whinging about how their client needed to be playing Champions League football and that they would review their options at the end of the season. It’s impossible to predict how our dressing room, so regularly described as having been ‘lost’ by managers, would react to a guy like Pochettino, who would come with a good reputation, but few medals to slap on the table.
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Personally, I tend think footballers respond, as most human beings do, principally to their boss’ human qualities (to borrow a phrase). If they are of immense dimensions, it doesn’t really matter how many winner’s medals are hanging around a coach’s neck. As first priority, most of us want competence and fair treatment from those in positions of authority above us. Pochettino replaced a popular manager at Southampton, yet almost overnight transformed their style of play. Regardless of the size of the egos involved (and you’d have to assume egos would be bigger inside the Spurs dressing room than Southampton’s), a manager cannot do that if he doesn’t have some flair for man-management and speaking to players in a way that is both motivational and instructive.
CONCLUSION
Given the positive characteristics that he brings to the table, some of which are mentioned above, I’m somewhat surprised at the level of indifference or hostility that has greeted the prospect of Mauricio Pochettino being the next Spurs manager. The only way I can rationalise it is by making this analogy…
You are an adolescent boy, desperate to find love. Mauricio Pochettino is the girl-next-door – familiar to the point where you tend to overlook quite how attractive she is. OK, at a glance her face may look a bit plain, but her bone structure is good, everything is where it should be, and to be fair she hasn’t really had any top level make-up to work with yet.
Carlo Ancelotti is the supermodel whose poster you have on your bedroom wall – completely unattainable, yet you still hold fantasies about somehow, someday being with her, to the point where you are prepared to turn your nose up at real opportunities for love with real girls. As if that alone didn’t make saving yourself for her unrealistic enough, she’s also currently dating a movie star who has just won his 10th Oscar.
Frank De Boer is the lass with a bit of a ‘reputation’ who hangs around behind the bike sheds – never shy of talking herself up, she’s pretty much a sure thing, but there’s this nagging feeling that it wouldn’t be long term: she’d quickly move on once she’d had her way with you, or you’d decide it wasn’t really fulfilling and end things by mutual consent with a legally-binding non-disclosure agreement and a £3million pay off.
Then there’s Rafa Benitez, your hot cousin. If she wasn’t tainted by being so closely associated with another family not a million miles from your own, you probably wouldn’t say no. But, as it stands, it would surely feel wrong, and you’d be worried about what people would say. Also, the genetics are a bit risky, so your kids may end up looking like Dirk Kuyt.
Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of teen movies can see that your best bet is the girl next door. She’ll end up scrubbing up well for the prom, and when the school uber-jock muscles in to dance with her, you’ll suddenly realise that you loved her all along. The sooner we Spurs fans accept and embrace that Pochettino is ‘the one’, the sooner we can stroll off into the sunset and live happily ever after. For 18 months.
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And here's a good one by Sid Lowe from back in 2011 on his work at Espanyol
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/jan/17/espanyol-la-liga-sid-lowe
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/jan/17/espanyol-la-liga-sid-lowe
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Have the Spurs fans turned on him yet?
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Rafa Benitez is the "hot cousin"??????????? What kind of f*cked up world is that guy living in?
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I think this is a good appointment.
There's always going to be those that are disappointed when you don't get a top name in football as manager. A lot of Liverpool fans were less than impressed with hiring Rodgers and spurning Rafa. Rafa has won big trophies and managed big teams, Rodgers had not. Yes there's the love affair with Rafa as well but looking back Rodgers was not a popular choice, nor would Martinez have been (another very serious contender).
Spurs fans have a right to be a bit cautious - it doesn't always work, Moyes and Hodgson are examples of this but Pochetinno has more of a Rodgers or Martinez feel than those old stubborn managers. His brand of football is clearly exciting and he's shown that tactically, at times, he can get it right too.
It all depends on what the expectations of the Spurs fans are - if they think he can get you to 4th in one season then you're going to be disappointed. The fact is that there's 2 places in the top 4 to share between Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, United and Everton. Arsenal always get 4th and always will under Wenger. Liverpool and Everton are another year into their project and should get stronger - us especially with CL to offer players, a lot more money to spend and some world class players already in the team. United can only be better than last season.
I think Poch should make you more solid tactically than under Dim but whether he can get you playing free following attacking football is a challenge with the players you have at your disposal.
There's always going to be those that are disappointed when you don't get a top name in football as manager. A lot of Liverpool fans were less than impressed with hiring Rodgers and spurning Rafa. Rafa has won big trophies and managed big teams, Rodgers had not. Yes there's the love affair with Rafa as well but looking back Rodgers was not a popular choice, nor would Martinez have been (another very serious contender).
Spurs fans have a right to be a bit cautious - it doesn't always work, Moyes and Hodgson are examples of this but Pochetinno has more of a Rodgers or Martinez feel than those old stubborn managers. His brand of football is clearly exciting and he's shown that tactically, at times, he can get it right too.
It all depends on what the expectations of the Spurs fans are - if they think he can get you to 4th in one season then you're going to be disappointed. The fact is that there's 2 places in the top 4 to share between Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, United and Everton. Arsenal always get 4th and always will under Wenger. Liverpool and Everton are another year into their project and should get stronger - us especially with CL to offer players, a lot more money to spend and some world class players already in the team. United can only be better than last season.
I think Poch should make you more solid tactically than under Dim but whether he can get you playing free following attacking football is a challenge with the players you have at your disposal.
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Of course Spurs beat Southampton when Timmeh was the manager.
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do feel for Southampton. seemed to have a good thing going, but it's all getting torn apart this summer. Shaw and Lallana will surely move, maybe others like Lovren and they lucky in a way that Rodriguez is injured or he'd be getting attention too.
gonna be tough attracting a good new manager and signings to replace them.
gonna be tough attracting a good new manager and signings to replace them.
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Mid table clubs in top European Leagues will always be victims of their own success. When ever a team punches above their weight they lose all their best players. Even big teams like Valencia or Atletico in Spain, if they produce top quality players they will inevitably end up at Barca, Madrid, Chelsea etc. in some ways it's lazy scouting. We'll probably sign Lallana for 20 odd million when there must be loads of younger and just as sexy players out there somewhere.
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You signed a non-English speaking coach fore FIVE!!!!! years?
HAHAHAHAAH
This is so typical Spurs. Poor de Boer though, whats next for him.
HAHAHAHAAH
This is so typical Spurs. Poor de Boer though, whats next for him.
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After all the nonsense that came out of Dim's mouth it's no surprise Spurs have picked someone who can't communicate in our language.
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He does speak decent English happarently (lapsed into it when angry after their City game, reportedly at Southampton end-of-season party too), just has been media-savvy enough to use the language "barrier" to his advantage, so far.
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Might be, but what made that bald jew think it was a good idea to give him a contract for 5 years in this day and age. Isnt he supposed to be smart with money. And it's not like he is affraid to sack his coaches.
It really is a gift that keeps on giving. Let's wait the summer brings us, but im expacting to drink a fine Blutty Bernie again in 2015.
It really is a gift that keeps on giving. Let's wait the summer brings us, but im expacting to drink a fine Blutty Bernie again in 2015.
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To be fair 5 years is nothing after Pardew's 15 year contract.
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when Pochettino is sacked in 18 months, I doubt he'll be getting 3.5 years payoff.. these contracts come with clauses about termination & how much has to be paid off. e.g. Moyes had a 6 year contract but apparently his payoff was limited to one year's worth if they failed to finish in top 4 - so they waited til that was confirmed to sack him.
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Gabriele Marcotti, taking a very different view on Spurs/Poch from the lazy redtop narrative
Tottenham seek progress under promising Pochettino
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The idea that Daniel Levy was some kind of truculent, trigger-happy, manager-firing north London version of former Atletico Madrid chairman Jesus Gil is a novel one, but a very popular one nonetheless. The appointment of Mauricio Pochettino as Tottenham manager was greeted on social media with jokes about how he’d be gone by Christmas (yuk! yuk!), given the supposed impatience of his new chairman.
Oh, but Pochettino will be Spurs’ third manager in less than seven months!
Yeah, that’s one way to spin the numbers. Or you could say that Pochettino will be the club’s eighth manager in 13 years, which sounds rather different, and you could add that his predecessor, Tim Sherwood, was always pretty much an interim choice, despite having a contract through 2015.
You could also add that the guy before Sherwood, Andre Villas-Boas, effectively sacked himself (and if you were really, really cynical, you might even conclude that the fact he landed at Zenit St. Petersburg with a big raise a couple of months later isn’t entirely coincidental).
The truth, as often happens, probably lies somewhere in between.
Levy axes managers when he senses there is no more forward progress or when certain situations become unsustainable, which is what a chief executive ought to do.
But back to Pochettino. In fact, let’s go waaaaay back.
In November 2012, the Argentine was fired by Espanyol. The club were dead last in La Liga, with just two wins in 13 games. Why would Southampton even consider offering a job to a guy like that?
Easy. It’s because, in the three seasons before that, Pochettino had led Espanyol to a comfortable mid-table finish, despite a positive net spend approaching $50 million and losing guys like Pablo Daniel Osvaldo, Alvaro Vazquez, Jose Callejon, Victor Ruiz, Moises and Nicolas Pareja. They may not have been superstars but they were players who had contributed to the club in a big way.
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Mauricio Pochettino took over at Southampton in January 2013.
Southampton looked at his body of work, evaluated his qualities as a manager and figured that, without losing his stars every season, he could do well. And while the English commentariat thought it was a travesty that that nice Nigel Adkins should lose his place to a guy who couldn’t speak the language and was last seen propping up La Liga, he did do well.
Pochettino marginally outperformed his predecessor in his first six months (earning 1.2 points per game compared to an even 1.0) and then, in his second season, took Southampton to an eighth-place finish.
More importantly, the Saints played some very good football in the final third, while conceding the second-fewest shots in the Premier League.
And that’s what Spurs have bought into: the belief that his style of football and tactical approach can translate to the next level, just as it did when he moved from Espanyol to England’s south coast.
Sure, Southampton spent big -- very big -- on players; their net spend was a whopping $50 million. But the thing is that $40 million of that went on two guys -- Osvaldo and Victor Wanyama -- who actually contributed very little.
Wanyama missed two months in the middle of the season and did not exactly pull up trees either side of that, ending the campaign with 19 league starts. Osvaldo, meanwhile, started nine games, scored three goals, had some serious disciplinary issues and was sent out on loan to Juventus at the first opportunity.
You can look at this as Pochettino’s judgment on transfers not being great or you can see it as the manager working with what he had -- and Southampton, of course, have a stellar youth academy -- and making them better. Either way, he didn’t succeed at Southampton because of his spending; indeed, some might say what he managed came in spite of it.
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And that’s a key thing to remember: Pochettino’s title at White Hart Lane will be first-team coach. He won’t deal with the transfers, which will be the remit of the club’s technical director, Franco Baldini.
Admittedly, it’s fashionable to describe Tottenham’s 2013 transfer campaign, orchestrated by the Italian, as some kind of colossal dud.
That’s the line superficially peddled by many, some of whom have an obvious axe to grind: $165 million spent on seven players, and apart from -- maybe -- Christian Eriksen, nothing to show for it.
It’s a reading that is either misguided or willfully biased. For a start, Tottenham actually made money on transfers in 2013-14 -- just over $5 million, in fact -- while cutting the wage bill. The critics often forget that part.
Sure, they were only able to do that because they got so much money from Real Madrid for Gareth Bale. That’s fine, but who do you think negotiated the Bale transfer? Further, just as important, are you better off with one superstar whose leg could snap in two at any moment, or seven players who could achieve superstar status and offer some kind of hedge?
A quarter of Tottenham’s spending went on Erik Lamela, whom some have dubbed a flop. He was hampered by injury, started three Premier League games all season, and his season ended in December. When it comes to his case, to paraphrase the late U.S. Senator Daniel Moynihan, you’re entitled to your own opinion, you’re not entitled to your own facts.
And the fact is that Lamela is an outstanding player. Given that he’s 22, unless his injuries are career-threatening -- and every indication is that they’re not -- at some point, probably soon, he’ll come good.
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Soldado managed just six goals in 28 league games last season.
Roberto Soldado, the other big-ticket buy, did struggle. He had scored 56 goals over the previous two seasons in La Liga -- the only guys who were more prolific? Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi and Radamel Falcao -- but managed just 11 in 35 games in all competitions for Spurs. That’s not good, though some might blame the type of service he received.
Of the others, Eriksen had a solid season, Paulinho was so-so given his fee, Vlad Chiriches and Etienne Capoue were slowed by injuries and Nacer Chadli proved to be a serviceable squad winger.
But here’s the thing: except for Soldado (29), every single one of those guys is 25 or younger, which suggests they can get better. And their résumés suggest they will.
There’s more. This squad is better than it’s given credit for. Last season, Tottenham finished with three fewer points and the same distance -- 17 points -- from first place as in 2012-13, when many felt Villas-Boas was heading in the right direction.
Moreover, they did it without anyone -- whether a newcomer or incumbent -- having a particularly good campaign. They also managed -- and here credit must go to Sherwood -- to rehabilitate Emmanuel Adebayor, who only got playing time once AVB departed but still ended up as the team’s top scorer with 14.
All this was achieved despite one manager who went into meltdown in October and rowed with everyone (AVB) and another who was undermined within a few months of taking over (Sherwood).
According to stats compiled by physioroom.com, Tottenham suffered the most injuries in the Premier League and by some margin: 45 in total, which was well ahead of Manchester United’s 38. They were also second in total days lost to injury, with a whopping 1,441.
That’s why, contrary to popular belief, there is little reason to believe things won’t turn around at White Hart Lane next season. Of course, the cynic within you will say that Spurs had the sixth-highest wage bill and finished sixth. They’ll probably have the sixth-highest again next year and, ergo, are likely to occupy the same spot. Sure, Everton will struggle to repeat last year’s fifth-placed finish, but then again, there is no way Man United can be as bad again.
But that’s why Pochettino was hired: to be a difference-maker and to make this crew of talented young players better, just as he did at Southampton and, before that, Espanyol.
A more legitimate concern is his style of play. At St Mary’s, he had a dynamic, energetic front four that often pressed high up the pitch. Guys like Eriksen, Adebayor and Soldado don’t fit that mould, which means that, barring a hefty turnover of personnel, he’ll have to come up with something different.
Can he? That’s the challenge. We tend to think of managers having fixed-in-stone philosophies and identities, but the best ones adapt to what they have, and Pochettino will need to prove he can do that. This move is a step up for him and, for Spurs, a gamble on a promising manager.
The good news is that Pochettino knows what he’s getting into. He knows -- and, I’m told, welcomes -- the fact that he’ll be working with a director of football. He’s excited to work with this group of players, many of whom have several more levels to go to.
Most importantly perhaps, from Levy’s perspective, there will be accountability. There’s a guy responsible for bringing in players and a guy responsible for coaching them. Compared to Villas-Boas and Sherwood, both seem comfortable in their roles. If it doesn’t work out this time, it won’t be hard to pinpoint the problem.
Tottenham seek progress under promising Pochettino
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The idea that Daniel Levy was some kind of truculent, trigger-happy, manager-firing north London version of former Atletico Madrid chairman Jesus Gil is a novel one, but a very popular one nonetheless. The appointment of Mauricio Pochettino as Tottenham manager was greeted on social media with jokes about how he’d be gone by Christmas (yuk! yuk!), given the supposed impatience of his new chairman.
Oh, but Pochettino will be Spurs’ third manager in less than seven months!
Yeah, that’s one way to spin the numbers. Or you could say that Pochettino will be the club’s eighth manager in 13 years, which sounds rather different, and you could add that his predecessor, Tim Sherwood, was always pretty much an interim choice, despite having a contract through 2015.
You could also add that the guy before Sherwood, Andre Villas-Boas, effectively sacked himself (and if you were really, really cynical, you might even conclude that the fact he landed at Zenit St. Petersburg with a big raise a couple of months later isn’t entirely coincidental).
The truth, as often happens, probably lies somewhere in between.
Levy axes managers when he senses there is no more forward progress or when certain situations become unsustainable, which is what a chief executive ought to do.
But back to Pochettino. In fact, let’s go waaaaay back.
In November 2012, the Argentine was fired by Espanyol. The club were dead last in La Liga, with just two wins in 13 games. Why would Southampton even consider offering a job to a guy like that?
Easy. It’s because, in the three seasons before that, Pochettino had led Espanyol to a comfortable mid-table finish, despite a positive net spend approaching $50 million and losing guys like Pablo Daniel Osvaldo, Alvaro Vazquez, Jose Callejon, Victor Ruiz, Moises and Nicolas Pareja. They may not have been superstars but they were players who had contributed to the club in a big way.
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Mauricio Pochettino took over at Southampton in January 2013.
Southampton looked at his body of work, evaluated his qualities as a manager and figured that, without losing his stars every season, he could do well. And while the English commentariat thought it was a travesty that that nice Nigel Adkins should lose his place to a guy who couldn’t speak the language and was last seen propping up La Liga, he did do well.
Pochettino marginally outperformed his predecessor in his first six months (earning 1.2 points per game compared to an even 1.0) and then, in his second season, took Southampton to an eighth-place finish.
More importantly, the Saints played some very good football in the final third, while conceding the second-fewest shots in the Premier League.
And that’s what Spurs have bought into: the belief that his style of football and tactical approach can translate to the next level, just as it did when he moved from Espanyol to England’s south coast.
Sure, Southampton spent big -- very big -- on players; their net spend was a whopping $50 million. But the thing is that $40 million of that went on two guys -- Osvaldo and Victor Wanyama -- who actually contributed very little.
Wanyama missed two months in the middle of the season and did not exactly pull up trees either side of that, ending the campaign with 19 league starts. Osvaldo, meanwhile, started nine games, scored three goals, had some serious disciplinary issues and was sent out on loan to Juventus at the first opportunity.
You can look at this as Pochettino’s judgment on transfers not being great or you can see it as the manager working with what he had -- and Southampton, of course, have a stellar youth academy -- and making them better. Either way, he didn’t succeed at Southampton because of his spending; indeed, some might say what he managed came in spite of it.
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And that’s a key thing to remember: Pochettino’s title at White Hart Lane will be first-team coach. He won’t deal with the transfers, which will be the remit of the club’s technical director, Franco Baldini.
Admittedly, it’s fashionable to describe Tottenham’s 2013 transfer campaign, orchestrated by the Italian, as some kind of colossal dud.
That’s the line superficially peddled by many, some of whom have an obvious axe to grind: $165 million spent on seven players, and apart from -- maybe -- Christian Eriksen, nothing to show for it.
It’s a reading that is either misguided or willfully biased. For a start, Tottenham actually made money on transfers in 2013-14 -- just over $5 million, in fact -- while cutting the wage bill. The critics often forget that part.
Sure, they were only able to do that because they got so much money from Real Madrid for Gareth Bale. That’s fine, but who do you think negotiated the Bale transfer? Further, just as important, are you better off with one superstar whose leg could snap in two at any moment, or seven players who could achieve superstar status and offer some kind of hedge?
A quarter of Tottenham’s spending went on Erik Lamela, whom some have dubbed a flop. He was hampered by injury, started three Premier League games all season, and his season ended in December. When it comes to his case, to paraphrase the late U.S. Senator Daniel Moynihan, you’re entitled to your own opinion, you’re not entitled to your own facts.
And the fact is that Lamela is an outstanding player. Given that he’s 22, unless his injuries are career-threatening -- and every indication is that they’re not -- at some point, probably soon, he’ll come good.
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Soldado managed just six goals in 28 league games last season.
Roberto Soldado, the other big-ticket buy, did struggle. He had scored 56 goals over the previous two seasons in La Liga -- the only guys who were more prolific? Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi and Radamel Falcao -- but managed just 11 in 35 games in all competitions for Spurs. That’s not good, though some might blame the type of service he received.
Of the others, Eriksen had a solid season, Paulinho was so-so given his fee, Vlad Chiriches and Etienne Capoue were slowed by injuries and Nacer Chadli proved to be a serviceable squad winger.
But here’s the thing: except for Soldado (29), every single one of those guys is 25 or younger, which suggests they can get better. And their résumés suggest they will.
There’s more. This squad is better than it’s given credit for. Last season, Tottenham finished with three fewer points and the same distance -- 17 points -- from first place as in 2012-13, when many felt Villas-Boas was heading in the right direction.
Moreover, they did it without anyone -- whether a newcomer or incumbent -- having a particularly good campaign. They also managed -- and here credit must go to Sherwood -- to rehabilitate Emmanuel Adebayor, who only got playing time once AVB departed but still ended up as the team’s top scorer with 14.
All this was achieved despite one manager who went into meltdown in October and rowed with everyone (AVB) and another who was undermined within a few months of taking over (Sherwood).
According to stats compiled by physioroom.com, Tottenham suffered the most injuries in the Premier League and by some margin: 45 in total, which was well ahead of Manchester United’s 38. They were also second in total days lost to injury, with a whopping 1,441.
That’s why, contrary to popular belief, there is little reason to believe things won’t turn around at White Hart Lane next season. Of course, the cynic within you will say that Spurs had the sixth-highest wage bill and finished sixth. They’ll probably have the sixth-highest again next year and, ergo, are likely to occupy the same spot. Sure, Everton will struggle to repeat last year’s fifth-placed finish, but then again, there is no way Man United can be as bad again.
But that’s why Pochettino was hired: to be a difference-maker and to make this crew of talented young players better, just as he did at Southampton and, before that, Espanyol.
A more legitimate concern is his style of play. At St Mary’s, he had a dynamic, energetic front four that often pressed high up the pitch. Guys like Eriksen, Adebayor and Soldado don’t fit that mould, which means that, barring a hefty turnover of personnel, he’ll have to come up with something different.
Can he? That’s the challenge. We tend to think of managers having fixed-in-stone philosophies and identities, but the best ones adapt to what they have, and Pochettino will need to prove he can do that. This move is a step up for him and, for Spurs, a gamble on a promising manager.
The good news is that Pochettino knows what he’s getting into. He knows -- and, I’m told, welcomes -- the fact that he’ll be working with a director of football. He’s excited to work with this group of players, many of whom have several more levels to go to.
Most importantly perhaps, from Levy’s perspective, there will be accountability. There’s a guy responsible for bringing in players and a guy responsible for coaching them. Compared to Villas-Boas and Sherwood, both seem comfortable in their roles. If it doesn’t work out this time, it won’t be hard to pinpoint the problem.
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I'll be interested to see how Pochettino does. I like him and I think his teams play good football. I just haven't seen him do anything spectacular yet in terms of results. Look at Valverde for example who got Athletic Bilbao who only have Basques (and Navarrans...and French if you are born close to the border....ok ok and one or two Riojanos....) in the team and he has them in the Champions League with even less of a budget and selling even better players than Pochettino's Espanyol did.
And the article is right, there are not a ton of Pochettino-esque players in the squad currently. It's going to require a lot of player turnover and that is going to require time so I hope he at least gets a fair chance to try and implement his football.
And the article is right, there are not a ton of Pochettino-esque players in the squad currently. It's going to require a lot of player turnover and that is going to require time so I hope he at least gets a fair chance to try and implement his football.
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At Spurs?!
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This has got to burn
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/real-madrids-angel-di-maria-it-hurts-to-be-linked-with-tottenham-9459134.html
Reminds me of something Torsten Frings said back in the day.
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/real-madrids-angel-di-maria-it-hurts-to-be-linked-with-tottenham-9459134.html
Reminds me of something Torsten Frings said back in the day.
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Hahahahaha...
Well I know what he means. He just won the CL and then one is told...fancy Spurs? Nobody would like that.
Well I know what he means. He just won the CL and then one is told...fancy Spurs? Nobody would like that.
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Allez les rouges wrote:This has got to burn
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/real-madrids-angel-di-maria-it-hurts-to-be-linked-with-tottenham-9459134.html
Reminds me of something Torsten Frings said back in the day.
Or there's this. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good old fashioned trolling opp. Not like it matters in a media overrun with Gooners and scousers peddling their agendas
Angel Di Maria was NOT having a dig at Spurs, but complaining about media speculation
Friday, May 30th, 2014
An interview by Angel Di Maria with Marca has gone viral in England due to one specific quote.
This is the quote doing the rounds in England today, which paints Tottenham in a pretty poor light:
“It hurts when you’re doing your best and then you hear that you might be going to Tottenham.”
With Di Maria having played superbly for Real Madrid this season and voted man of the match in the Champions League final, you can understand why many Arsenal fans and others are having a good laugh at Spurs today.
But, Spanish speakers have suggested that the nuance of the quote has been lost in translation with Di Maria instead complaining about the constant media speculation.
After all, when Gareth Bale joined Real Madrid, there were many reports that Di Maria would move to Spurs in part exchange.
A more accurate translation of the interview, via @spurspanyol is below:
Marca: Did you see yourself leaving Madrid at any moment?”
Angel Di Maria: “They (the media) say a lot of things and sometimes you think too much about them and it hurts when you are giving your all for the club. Things come out like ‘he’s going to Tottenham,’ or ‘he’s staying.’ These are difficult times for a player. It’s difficult to detach yourself (from the speculation). I was calm as I knew I wanted to continue with Madrid.
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Speaking of trolling (plenty of it in the press after we sacked another English manager), this has got to be the best one so far. Neil Ashton, he who got burned by AVB publicly after setting his clear agenda post sacking of his buddy Arry. Really is quite wonderful how petty he has become:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2640553/Mauricio-Pochettino-Daniel-Levys-eighth-boss-Spurs-remember-theyre-no-bigger-Aston-Villa-Sunderland.html
As F365 puts it:
Big, Bigger, Biggest
Tottenham fans wil definitely remember the Daily Mail's Neil Ashton and his altercation with Andre Vilas-Boas and subsequent backing of Tim Sherwood ('To fund their ambitious project, Joe Lewis, the club's principle owner, is relying on the riches from regular Champions League football. All they need is a manager to guide them there. Step forward, Tim Sherwood.').
Ashton's revenge for the entirely justified criticism he has attracted from Tottenham fans over the last two years is to belittle them as a club. Mature, we think you'll agree.
'Although they have some history on their side, they are only the 10th-best supported team in the Barclays Premier League,' writes Ashton. 'Tottenham are a big club, just not as big as United and Arsenal, and certainly no bigger than Newcastle, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Sunderland, Everton and Aston Villa.
'All of them had bigger average attendances than Spurs in the Barclays Premier League.'
Yes Neil, because all of them have bigger stadiums. As you very well know. You probably also know that Sunderland, Everton and Aston Villa all recorded attendances lower than Tottenham's lowest Premier League crowd of 34,410 last season. You may also know that Tottenham's total attendance for the season was only 5,000 below Villa's despite Villa Park having a capacity 6,000 greater than White Hart Lane. You know all this but you're reserving your right - as a national newspaper journalist of some repute - to prioritise pettiness over precision
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2640553/Mauricio-Pochettino-Daniel-Levys-eighth-boss-Spurs-remember-theyre-no-bigger-Aston-Villa-Sunderland.html
As F365 puts it:
Big, Bigger, Biggest
Tottenham fans wil definitely remember the Daily Mail's Neil Ashton and his altercation with Andre Vilas-Boas and subsequent backing of Tim Sherwood ('To fund their ambitious project, Joe Lewis, the club's principle owner, is relying on the riches from regular Champions League football. All they need is a manager to guide them there. Step forward, Tim Sherwood.').
Ashton's revenge for the entirely justified criticism he has attracted from Tottenham fans over the last two years is to belittle them as a club. Mature, we think you'll agree.
'Although they have some history on their side, they are only the 10th-best supported team in the Barclays Premier League,' writes Ashton. 'Tottenham are a big club, just not as big as United and Arsenal, and certainly no bigger than Newcastle, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Sunderland, Everton and Aston Villa.
'All of them had bigger average attendances than Spurs in the Barclays Premier League.'
Yes Neil, because all of them have bigger stadiums. As you very well know. You probably also know that Sunderland, Everton and Aston Villa all recorded attendances lower than Tottenham's lowest Premier League crowd of 34,410 last season. You may also know that Tottenham's total attendance for the season was only 5,000 below Villa's despite Villa Park having a capacity 6,000 greater than White Hart Lane. You know all this but you're reserving your right - as a national newspaper journalist of some repute - to prioritise pettiness over precision
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So, Spurs are bigger then Villa, Everton, Newcastle and Sunderland, no?
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I coulda sworn you used to be better at giving and taking the old #bantz, Bernd me old china. Maybe some new Californian irony-aversion?
I would have guessed that his main point would be about the prospect of being used as a makeweight in the Bale deal, not specifically about Spurs. But it's still funny. As for Frings, that's something I only saw in the German press.
Isn't Neil Ashton that c**t with the bullshit about Özil "nicking a living" when he came off injured against Bayern?
I would have guessed that his main point would be about the prospect of being used as a makeweight in the Bale deal, not specifically about Spurs. But it's still funny. As for Frings, that's something I only saw in the German press.
Isn't Neil Ashton that c**t with the bullshit about Özil "nicking a living" when he came off injured against Bayern?
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Allez les rouges wrote:I coulda sworn you used to be better at giving and taking the old #bantz, Bernd me old china. Maybe some new Californian irony-aversion?
I would have guessed that his main point would be about the prospect of being used as a makeweight in the Bale deal, not specifically about Spurs. But it's still funny. As for Frings, that's something I only saw in the German press.
Isn't Neil Ashton that c**t with the bullshit about Özil "nicking a living" when he came off injured against Bayern?
Fan bantz is one thing, it's just a little irritating the stream of shite that our once heralded British media print whenever we have the temerity to sack an English manager. Like a predictable stuck record, and we've been a punching bag for them to pour scorn upon ever since Redknapp was sacked.
Neil Ashton is just one of the very worst. These are people within a profession lowering themselves to the level of the internet troll. Which then obviously gets people like Fey and Wojciech Szeszny all erect, rinse and repeat.
@Fey,
we have won the 6th largest number of trophies out of all the English clubs, we have the 6th highest wage bill in England, the 6th highest turnover, we have finished in the top 6 for the last 6 years, I'd also think we have the 6th largest fanbase globally of the English teams (possibly 5th depending on how rapid the Man City foreign bandgwagon as grown). Therefore, I'd wager that we are the 6th 'biggest' club England based on these numbers. As opposed to the method Ashton uses, which is stadium size and therefore makes us 10th (Building a stadium in a suburb of London is obviously just as straightforward as one on the outskirts of Sunderland...)
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In extension of Marcotti's article here is one about whether or not Tottenham's current squad is set up for Pochettino's style:
http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/yuop-ftstucdcgijwvngtw/Show/Team-Focus-Spurs-Have-Foundations-in-Place-to-Play-Pochettinos-Way
http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/yuop-ftstucdcgijwvngtw/Show/Team-Focus-Spurs-Have-Foundations-in-Place-to-Play-Pochettinos-Way
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Super Progress wrote:In extension of Marcotti's article here is one about whether or not Tottenham's current squad is set up for Pochettino's style:
http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/yuop-ftstucdcgijwvngtw/Show/Team-Focus-Spurs-Have-Foundations-in-Place-to-Play-Pochettinos-Way
I don't know, it seems very optimistic.
Seems to me that they lack a player like Schneiderlin in Southampton or Javi Marquez in Espanyol. The deep lying playmaker/ball winner. Who can do that job? Paulinho is much more box to box. Same with Dembele. Capoue doesn't convince me.
Also, it seems to be that in Espanyol Pochettino operated with a very mobile, interchangeable front three: Callejon, Luis Garcia (not the Liverpool one), and Osvaldo. Guys like Soldado and Adebayor can't survive in that system. Not sure if Townsend can hack it like the article says. Lamela? Well maybe Pochettino has a magic wand.
He likes really athletic centre backs as well. That's not exactly Vertonghen or Dawson. Not really sure about Chiriches and Kaboul well he's never not injured.
I think the best comparison you can make is Lloris and Kameni who are both kind of nutters.
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I agree with Marcotti that Levy is usually right about firing managers... what he missed is that Levy usually is wrong when hiring them.
IMO the best way to run a club is to first decide what style of football you want to play. Then you get the best suited coach and the best suited players for that style of play. That way, when you need to sack the coach and hire a new one who is also suited to that style, there is some continuation in the project and a player exodus is not needed.
But if you don't have a club philosophy on the style of play, then when you hire a new coach, look at your squad and see which coach will get the best out of them. Pochettino is a good coach, I like him. But is he the best coach for the type of players Spurs have? I am not so sure. Like Marcotti pointed out, these are not players suited for closing down spaces upfront off the ball. I can think of one coach who would love to work with players like Dembele, Sandro, Paulinho, Soldano, etc - Its Mancini. These are so Mancio-isque players. He could possibly make a strong, counter attacking machine out of this, like he did at Inter and City.
Pochettino may succeed, and will most likely play a more attractive game. But Mancini would have had a better chance of taking that squad to a top 4 finish next season.
IMO the best way to run a club is to first decide what style of football you want to play. Then you get the best suited coach and the best suited players for that style of play. That way, when you need to sack the coach and hire a new one who is also suited to that style, there is some continuation in the project and a player exodus is not needed.
But if you don't have a club philosophy on the style of play, then when you hire a new coach, look at your squad and see which coach will get the best out of them. Pochettino is a good coach, I like him. But is he the best coach for the type of players Spurs have? I am not so sure. Like Marcotti pointed out, these are not players suited for closing down spaces upfront off the ball. I can think of one coach who would love to work with players like Dembele, Sandro, Paulinho, Soldano, etc - Its Mancini. These are so Mancio-isque players. He could possibly make a strong, counter attacking machine out of this, like he did at Inter and City.
Pochettino may succeed, and will most likely play a more attractive game. But Mancini would have had a better chance of taking that squad to a top 4 finish next season.
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bluenine wrote:I agree with Marcotti that Levy is usually right about firing managers... what he missed is that Levy usually is wrong when hiring them.
IMO the best way to run a club is to first decide what style of football you want to play. Then you get the best suited coach and the best suited players for that style of play. That way, when you need to sack the coach and hire a new one who is also suited to that style, there is some continuation in the project and a player exodus is not needed.
But if you don't have a club philosophy on the style of play, then when you hire a new coach, look at your squad and see which coach will get the best out of them. Pochettino is a good coach, I like him. But is he the best coach for the type of players Spurs have? I am not so sure. Like Marcotti pointed out, these are not players suited for closing down spaces upfront off the ball. I can think of one coach who would love to work with players like Dembele, Sandro, Paulinho, Soldano, etc - Its Mancini. These are so Mancio-isque players. He could possibly make a strong, counter attacking machine out of this, like he did at Inter and City.
Pochettino may succeed, and will most likely play a more attractive game. But Mancini would have had a better chance of taking that squad to a top 4 finish next season.
Nobody wants to work with Soldado.
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur 2013 / 14
All that will happen are the unfit/slow/less energetic players in the squad either need to get fit or get shipped out.
We've got a pretty athletic squad. I don't see it being a major issue. AVB already shipped out a lot of the fatties. I'd see Dawson, Naughton, maybe Capoue, Adebayor following. Otherwise, the simple fact is this: Pochettino makes the players at his disposal better. He's proven that. What he hasn't proven is his acumen in the transfer market. Which is why he's so popular with Levy. We have 100 million worth of players, most of whom under 25, with one season under their belt who will get whipped into shape and actually given a tactical plan to execute. In theory, there can only be one way the club will go with Poch versus last season, and that is upward.
We've got a pretty athletic squad. I don't see it being a major issue. AVB already shipped out a lot of the fatties. I'd see Dawson, Naughton, maybe Capoue, Adebayor following. Otherwise, the simple fact is this: Pochettino makes the players at his disposal better. He's proven that. What he hasn't proven is his acumen in the transfer market. Which is why he's so popular with Levy. We have 100 million worth of players, most of whom under 25, with one season under their belt who will get whipped into shape and actually given a tactical plan to execute. In theory, there can only be one way the club will go with Poch versus last season, and that is upward.