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    Rodgers' Liverpool vs Benitez's Liverpool

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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:14 pm

    Which one do you think was better?
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    Post by COTR Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:30 pm

    Tough one actually

    Benitez got a team to consistently be one of the best sides in Europe, I'm not sure Rodgers will be able to match those achievements but we'll get the chance to find out soon.

    On the other side, Benitez only got close to winning the league once while Rodgers has done it pretty much immediately.

    Football wise, watching Alonso, Gerrard and Mascherano together was amazing and no need to point out what is so good at the current team.

    Conclusion is that it is too early to tell. In a one off match I don't know who I would back to win. Rafa usually had an answer but SASAS is proving pretty damn hard to defend against for everyone.
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    Post by The Chosen Glenn Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:53 pm

    too early to say ok

    hopefully Rodgers'.
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    Post by Fey Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:44 pm

    ATM Benitez, his side was one of the best in Europe, but on the other hand it was a complete snoozefest at times with not many goals, cue cotr with his besiktas 8-0, I think he almost won the league when opponents were a lot stronger, thats for sure. Many teams are in transition, well except for Arsenal being 4th place material, thats still the same.
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    Post by messiah Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:52 pm

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    Post by Luis Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:53 pm

    Benitez was a fat Spanish waiter that played boring football and got lucky every time we won a trophy under him or reached a European Cup final. I thought everyone knew this?
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:11 pm

    Fey wrote:ATM Benitez, his side was one of the best in Europe, but on the other hand it was a complete snoozefest at times with not many goals, cue cotr with his besiktas 8-0, I think he almost won the league when opponents were a lot stronger, thats for sure. Many teams are in transition, well except for Arsenal being 4th place material, thats still the same.
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    Of course the Benitez team was better. This was back when the English empire ruled European football. Now the top teams have deteriorated considerably. Benitez beat the teams in the world with what is the worst team on paper to win Cl, imo. That is far more impressive than winning the English league in its current state.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:14 pm

    Maybe the league was better and maybe Rafa's team would win in 2 legged cup tie, but Rafa would not have won the league then, or now, or 20 years ago, or 20 years in the future. If Rodgers wins the league then he has surpassed him for me because he has done something that is literally impossible for Rafa to do.
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    Post by Luis Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:40 pm

    Rafa can only win La Liga titles over Barca and Madrid, he clearly could never win a title with Liverpool and literally would never have done that if he stayed another 50 years. He might have won 14 more European Cups in that time though.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:43 pm

    Luis wrote:Rafa can only win La Liga titles over Barca and Madrid, he clearly could never win a title with Liverpool and literally would never have done that if he stayed another 50 years. He might have won 14 more European Cups in that time though.

    I don't dispute any of that.
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    Post by messiah Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:01 pm

    barca and real weren't really barca and real when he won the league to be honest.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:11 pm

    Barca perhaps, they had a tough time from 2000-04 after they lost Figo and went through a few managers.

    Madrid in 2001/02 was a great side though. Deportivo were also a pretty good side back then.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:32 am

    I genuinely think that Benitez was a genius tactically. Particularly for cup-ties he seemed to be able to analyse the opposition and set up to neutralise them so well.

    But his problem is man-management, he just seems to alienate people around him and gradually descend into paranoia.

    Benitez had better players - I would only pick Suarez, Sterling and Coutinho in a combined team with the 08/09 side - but Rodgers teams play nicer football and he is a more likeable bloke.
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:38 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Barca perhaps, they had a tough time from 2000-04 after they lost Figo and went through a few managers.

    Madrid in 2001/02 was a great side though. Deportivo were also a pretty good side back then.
    This was back in the golden age of Spanish football. He won the league twice back then. Incredible and then to win with the worst Cl winners I have seen is even more incredible. In comparison United for the first time is weak and without Ferguson. Chelsea is good but clearly work in progress. City is a good side but hard to make sense of them really. They should be the best side in the league but as Kimbo has pointed out they are not particularly impressing neither in England and even less so in Europe.

    Of course it is too early to compare because Rodgers is just getting started with his team. Next season he will compete on several flanks and I doubt they will be able to have such a good season unless they bulk up during the summer.
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    Post by Luis Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:11 pm

    Roger Hunt wrote:I genuinely think that Benitez was a genius tactically. Particularly for cup-ties he seemed to be able to analyse the opposition and set up to neutralise them so well.

    But his problem is man-management, he just seems to alienate people around him and gradually descend into paranoia.

    Benitez had better players - I would only pick Suarez, Sterling and Coutinho in a combined team with the 08/09 side - but Rodgers teams play nicer football and he is a more likeable bloke.

    I can't argue with this, though Sturridge would probably start:

    Reina (for his first 3 seasons)

    Arbeloa
    Carra
    Agger
    Aurelio

    Mascherano
    Gerrard
    Alonso

    Sturridge
    Suarez
    Torres

    I would go for.

    I don't think Rafa would have done as well with this current side. Sterling, Sturridge, Flanagan, Henderson and Allen all seem to thrive on man management and the support from the manager. Rafa was never interested in cuddling players, he saw them as chess pieces to win football matches. Rodgers probably wouldn't have done well with the champions league winning team; trying to get players like Biscan, Traore and Baros to play 'death by football' wouldn't of been easy.

    The ultimate test will be next season in Europe. If we do the unthinkable and pull off this title Rodgers will go down in history as a Liverpool legend regardless of what happens from then on in but Liverpool fans have a special relationship with the European Cup. We pride ourselves in being able to compete with any club from around the world so Rodgers must master the tactical side of the competition. I think he is learning tactically all the time though , there's been some good examples of him utilising players in the right games during this winning run; he knows when Allen is suited to a game or when Sterling is a better option ahead of Coutinho and vice versa.
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    Post by Isco Benny Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:35 pm

    Roger Hunt is back??!!

    It's like the the Backstreet Boys have reunited cheers
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    Post by Roger Hunt Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:55 pm

    ;-)

    Just back to gloat while Man U are shit.

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