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    Post by L r d Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:27 pm

    Roger_Hunt wrote:
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    Edit: neither is Liverpool away in the cup? Razz

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    Keep up Obispo, League Cup > FA Cup now.

    Heh heh. I don't think Parky wanted to mention the cup... what with Crouch raping him and all...
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    Post by Roger Hunt Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:28 pm

    Obispo wrote:

    what with Crouch raping him and all...

    Eeeuwww.... imagine what the kids would look like affraid
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:29 pm

    There's no way he could do that now.

    He's ready.... Devil


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    Post by L r d Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:29 pm

    Something inbetween Ivan Drago and the banjo player in Deliverance.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:49 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    TeamSpirit™ wrote:Despite statistics - I think on Raw talent, Man United have the best stable of Defenders.

    And you don't need a specific defensive system to get them playing well either.

    The same can be said about our defenders too.
    I agree entirely - but I feel that Senderos is potential weak link in regards to this, likewise Vidic for Man Utd.

    Toure & Gallas are top notch in the centre... but United have 3 in Rio, Heinze & Brown - so basically have more depth IMO.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:57 pm

    Obispo wrote:
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    I think he can get to Terry's level eventually.

    Don't write him off before he gets started.
    ok

    I wouldn't call Vidic a fraud either.
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    Post by Saintsar Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:22 pm

    Obispo wrote:
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    I think he can get to Terry's level eventually.

    Don't write him off before he gets started.

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    Post by Freddie Or Not Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:45 pm

    SpartaR wrote:Arsenal have a strong partnership in Toure and Gallas. Eboue is a very good attacking player but a weak left back..

    Eboue is not weak defensively - not remotely in fact. Furthermore he is a rightback.
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    Post by 110% Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:56 pm

    I am afraid that collectively is more important than who has individually the best defenders.

    Chelsea and Liverpool the best for me, don't think the other two work as well together even though they might have better players.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:05 pm

    Thats fair enough.

    Rio, Vidic, Van Der Sar, Heinze and Neville haven't played much together yet anyway so I'd expect them to be behind.

    At the end of the season, I think it will be different but we'll see. Suppose Arsenal could say the same as well.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:08 pm

    the strongest defence to me isn't the one that concedes the least amount goals or have the most talented indivudals but the one that can grind out result when really needed. So on that basis, i think chelsea and liverpool have the strongest defence in england.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:08 pm

    We've done really well to get to this number of posts without someone saying that it's all down to your defensive midfielder anyway...

    @Parks - say you can't sign Hargreaves for some reason. Do you reckon Rio could do that job?
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:08 pm

    its all down to your defensive midfielder anyway
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:11 pm

    Roger_Hunt wrote:We've done really well to get to this number of posts without someone saying that it's all down to your defensive midfielder anyway...

    @Parks - say you can't sign Hargreaves for some reason. Do you reckon Rio could do that job?

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    To be honest, I wouldn't want him to. Our defence looks half as secure without him there, not only for his defending but for his leading of the line.

    If we can't get Hargreaves, go back for Senna and wait a little longer.
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    Post by L r d Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:18 pm

    Or... just try Heinze there. He's strong, aggressive and versitile. Sounds far more suited to the role than Rio.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:20 pm

    Obispo wrote:Or... just try Heinze there. He's strong, aggressive and versitile. Sounds far more suited to the role than Rio.

    Someguy, got laughed at heavily for suggesting that on a Man United forum.

    Surely he can't be worse than O'Shea and we have Evra and even Silvestre for cover at left back. Decent short passer as well.
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    Post by L r d Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:25 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Or... just try Heinze there. He's strong, aggressive and versitile. Sounds far more suited to the role than Rio.

    Surely he can't be worse than O'Shea and we have Evra and even Silvestre for cover at left back. Decent short passer as well.

    Exactly. He's not going to be worse than O'Shea or Fletcher, let's be honest. He's good on the ball, he's strong, he has no problem with the pace of the premiership. Plus, his lack of height wouldn't be exposed in the same way that it may in the centre of defence.

    On top of all of that - who's better to man mark a playmaker than a former central defender?
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:27 pm

    I'll call Fergie now...
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    Post by Saintsar Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:32 pm

    Plus, he's the closest player in Man U's squad to Roy Keane in terms of attitude. And he can't cross very well (certainly not as well as Evra), which is unfortunate because otherwise he's a very good fullback.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:36 pm

    ------------------ Van Der Sar

    Neville ----- Ferdinand ---- Vidic ------ Evra

    -------------- Carrick ------ Heinze

    ----- Ronaldo ------ Rooney ------- Giggs

    ----------------------- Saha


    Certainly looks good, with Scholes as super sub.
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    Post by Luis Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:54 pm

    liverpools starting defence at the moment

    finnan,carragher,agger,riise

    back ups, hyypia,paletta,aurellio,warnock
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    Post by The Pröfessör Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:13 pm

    I still believe Rio can play that role for u guys. u can't judge him on that single match against blackburn. He is one of the players that is most comfortable on the ball in your team, he has all the attributes to play there; he is fast, strong, good on the ball, good tackler and reads the game well.
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    Post by DS Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:41 pm

    Heinze may do ok in the midfield but are we prepared to do more experiments which may mean more dropped points if it doesnt work and more pressure.
    To say it simpler get a player who plays as a dm not convert a striker or defender into one.
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    Post by S4P Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:50 pm

    Obispo wrote:
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    I think he can get to Terry's level eventually.

    Don't write him off before he gets started.

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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:58 pm

    Roger_Hunt wrote:If Woodgate can manage to be fit for 25 games this season he'd be a good shout for our next target from our feeder club Boro....

    20m euros plz Basketball
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:59 pm

    He's ours now LSR

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    Post by DS Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:01 pm

    Would you not want him back LSR , he is a very good defender if stays fit.
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:01 pm

    You have an option to buy him for 14m euros ... thats provided he wants to stay, cos he`s said that he wants to prove he can play for us & feels he is in debt with the club.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:03 pm

    We've supposedly agreed a fee with you...thats all I read.

    I dont think he'll stay with us though. He's a Boro boy...but not that much of a Boro boy.
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:04 pm

    BilalShah wrote:Would you not want him back LSR , he is a very good defender if stays fit.

    Id have him back but if Boro pays the 14m euros and he wants to play for them then there isnt much we can do. I dont think we should have let him go if we didnt sign anyone as cover which in the end we didnt ...

    S.Ramos ....... Cannavaro ....... Woodgate ........ Tosser

    Would have been an excellent back line

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