HomeSamba De Baiano wrote:In this order
Palermo
Celta
Fenerbahce
Newcastle
Eintracht
Surely you don't expect us to lose one of our home games against Celta and Fener?
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UEFA cup draw discussion....
Kimbo- Number of posts : 38171
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Surely you don't expect us to lose one of our home games against Celta and Fener?
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2 years ago you could have walked this group even. But to be honest you're not incapable of winning all games (comfortably).Fey wrote:@DD
I really dont't expect much of it this year. After Basel we play Ajax, so that will be the end of Koeman.
But back to the Uefacup, I think you are underestimating Basel, we played there a few years ago and we took a lucky draw home. THat will be the hardest game imo, the supporters are still pissed about those huge fights back then. So expect some agressive atmosphere. A draw would be great.
Blackburn will be a good game, lovely to see Emerton back. But we should win this game, Btw you know Blackburn has more tv-income then all Dutch teams Together
Wisla, dont know nothing about it, shall be your average East-european team. Lot's of diving, XI men defending.
Nancy looks great this season, lot of young French talents. We will prolly lose that one.
If we had this poule 2 years ago, we would proceed for sure. But now?? We look really bad this year, but every point we can get for Holland would be great.
And you need to have a bit more faith in defeating/battering Basel. They're still Basel FFS! What's next? Fear of Grasshoppers?
Are all Feyenoord fans this defeatist? I'm having more faith than you do!
Don't forget you won the UEFA cup in 2002.
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Another good thing about Ajax's opponents in group F? No long trips to former Soviet republics, or Turkey, Greece or Israel.
Ten Cate: "A flight to Prague will only take an hour or so. Barcelona is two hours. Vienna just over one hour. And Belgium is just down the road."
Ten Cate: "A flight to Prague will only take an hour or so. Barcelona is two hours. Vienna just over one hour. And Belgium is just down the road."
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GROUP C
Sevilla
AZ Alkmaar
Slovan Liberec
Grasshopper
Braga
Braga might have a chance against Slovan Liberec and Grasshopper, but i dont believe they can beat Sevilha or AZ. They're too experienced for Braga.
I see it like :
1-Sevilha
2-AZ Alkmaar
3-Braga
4-Grasshopper
5-Slovan Liberec
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DD
Yeah it is a sad thing, but the mighty has fallen. We have players like Kolkka and Charisteas these days
So alot of us are really pessimistic these days, I mean we cant challenge for the title again....And that for the most populair club in Holland!!! I think we need to change chairman and the whole freckin board, for years of mismanagement.
Yeah it is a sad thing, but the mighty has fallen. We have players like Kolkka and Charisteas these days
So alot of us are really pessimistic these days, I mean we cant challenge for the title again....And that for the most populair club in Holland!!! I think we need to change chairman and the whole freckin board, for years of mismanagement.
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19 oct - AZ x Braga
02 nov - Braga x Liberec
23 nov - Sevilha x Braga
14 dec - Braga x Grasshoppers
Man, Braga plays the hardest games away. Not fair, just not fair.
02 nov - Braga x Liberec
23 nov - Sevilha x Braga
14 dec - Braga x Grasshoppers
Man, Braga plays the hardest games away. Not fair, just not fair.
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Parks Lives wrote:So 24 teams, how does that work?
Surely it should be 2 from each group making it 16 and a round before the quarter finals.
don't know whether this was explained already, but there'll be 8 teams joining them from the CL to make 32.
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Lusitan wrote:GROUP C
Sevilla
AZ Alkmaar
Slovan Liberec
Grasshopper
Braga
Braga might have a chance against Slovan Liberec and Grasshopper, but i dont believe they can beat Sevilha or AZ. They're too experienced for Braga.
I see it like :
1-Sevilha
2-AZ Alkmaar
3-Braga
4-Grasshopper
5-Slovan Liberec
No way Slovan Liberec are going to finish last in that group. Braga will struggle.
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too bad about Ajax playing Espanyol in Amsterdam. Would have been nice to go and see them.
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toon h wrote:too bad about Ajax playing Espanyol in Amsterdam. Would have been nice to go and see them.
You wont miss much, believe me...
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RANGERS
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Livorno
Maccabi Haifa
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Club Brugge
Besiktas
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Sevilla
AZ Alkmaar
Slovan Liberec
Grasshopper
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Parma
Lens
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Odense
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Basle
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Palermo
Fenerbahce
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RANGERS
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Maccabi Haifa
GROUP B
Bayer Leverkusen
Club Brugge
Besiktas
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Sevilla
AZ Alkmaar
Slovan Liberec
Grasshopper
Braga
GROUP D
Parma
Lens
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Osasuna
Odense
GROUP E
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Basle
Wisla Krakow
BLACKBURN
Nancy
GROUP F
Ajax
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Espanyol
Austria Wien
Zulte Waregem
GROUP G
Panathinaikos
Paris St Germain
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GROUP H
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Fenerbahce
Eintracht Frankfurtm
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What's this you're doing Messiah?
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toon h wrote:Lusitan wrote:GROUP C
Sevilla
AZ Alkmaar
Slovan Liberec
Grasshopper
Braga
Braga might have a chance against Slovan Liberec and Grasshopper, but i dont believe they can beat Sevilha or AZ. They're too experienced for Braga.
I see it like :
1-Sevilha
2-AZ Alkmaar
3-Braga
4-Grasshopper
5-Slovan Liberec
No way Slovan Liberec are going to finish last in that group. Braga will struggle.
At this moment, looking at Braga team, qualifying for the group stages after 120 minutes on wednesday (and down to 10 for a long period of time), and 4 days later beating Porto 2-1, I reckon some other teams may struggle more against Braga
Sevilha will win, but the other teams will have a fight on their hands
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Messiah, there are 3 teams going through. I know, not much of a knock out, but there you are.
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GOOD LUCK TO:
club brugge,Leverkusen,Besiktas,Diamo Bucharest,Palermo,Celta Vigo,Fenerbahce and Frankfurt
club brugge,Leverkusen,Besiktas,Diamo Bucharest,Palermo,Celta Vigo,Fenerbahce and Frankfurt
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Auxerre
RANGERS
P Belgrade
Livorno
Maccabi Haifa
GROUP B
Bayer Leverkusen
Club Brugge
Besiktas
Dinamo Bucharest
TOTTENHAM
GROUP C
Sevilla
AZ Alkmaar
Slovan Liberec
Grasshopper
Braga
GROUP D
Parma
Lens
Heerenveen
Osasuna
Odense
GROUP E
Feyenoord
Basle
Wisla Krakow
BLACKBURN
Nancy
GROUP F
Ajax
Sparta Prague
Espanyol
Austria Wien
Zulte Waregem
GROUP G
Panathinaikos
Paris St Germain
Rapid Bucharest
Hapoel Tel Aviv
Mlada Bolesla
GROUP H
NEWCASTLE
Celta Vigo
Palermo
Fenerbahce
Eintracht Frankfurtm
Auxerre
RANGERS
P Belgrade
Livorno
Maccabi Haifa
GROUP B
Bayer Leverkusen
Club Brugge
Besiktas
Dinamo Bucharest
TOTTENHAM
GROUP C
Sevilla
AZ Alkmaar
Slovan Liberec
Grasshopper
Braga
GROUP D
Parma
Lens
Heerenveen
Osasuna
Odense
GROUP E
Feyenoord
Basle
Wisla Krakow
BLACKBURN
Nancy
GROUP F
Ajax
Sparta Prague
Espanyol
Austria Wien
Zulte Waregem
GROUP G
Panathinaikos
Paris St Germain
Rapid Bucharest
Hapoel Tel Aviv
Mlada Bolesla
GROUP H
NEWCASTLE
Celta Vigo
Palermo
Fenerbahce
Eintracht Frankfurtm
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So you think all the English teams will make it through?
I actually think Blackburn will, not so sure about Newcastle and Spurs.
I actually think Blackburn will, not so sure about Newcastle and Spurs.
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Fey wrote:DD
Yeah it is a sad thing, but the mighty has fallen. We have players like Kolkka and Charisteas these days
So alot of us are really pessimistic these days, I mean we cant challenge for the title again....And that for the most populair club in Holland!!! I think we need to change chairman and the whole freckin board, for years of mismanagement.
If Feyenoord concentrate first on their defensive perfomance (like against Lok Sofia at home) They can sneak through! If they try to play "dominant" or "good" football they will go out!
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Az Coach Louis van Gaal is jealous of Feyenoord! They are in a very easy poule while "we"are in a very difficult group! "We only have top teams in our group"
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Looks like the typical whinning of Louis van Gaal dont you think? He is so full of himself, I seriously hate that man.
And a bad loser as well, remember the play-offs?
And a bad loser as well, remember the play-offs?
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Allez Sevilla!!! Great attacking team love them!
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Kimbo wrote:Samba De Baiano wrote:In this order
Palermo
Celta
Fenerbahce
Newcastle
Eintracht
Surely you don't expect us to lose one of our home games against Celta and Fener?
Oh yes. I remember when we went to Villa and Liverpool and destroyed them so why not?
Kimbo- Number of posts : 38171
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Samba De Baiano wrote:Kimbo wrote:Samba De Baiano wrote:In this order
Palermo
Celta
Fenerbahce
Newcastle
Eintracht
Surely you don't expect us to lose one of our home games against Celta and Fener?
Oh yes. I remember when we went to Villa and Liverpool and destroyed them so why not?
The last time we faced Spanish opposition was Mallorca, and they got MULLERED. We rely totally on our home form, it takes a very good team or a very lucky team to beat us there. I don't think Celta or Fener have enough.
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Mallorca are relegation fodder. (whispers) Don't boast that you beat them someone might hear you.
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Samba De Baiano wrote:Mallorca are relegation fodder. (whispers) Don't boast that you beat them someone might hear you.
It was a couple of years ago, they must've been good enough to qualify for europe.
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Honestly Mallorca, Real Sociedad and Racing are the Fulhams of La Liga. I agree with Sepp separate the wheat from the chaff.
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kimbo has a very relevent point though... to qualify for europe they must have had a good team that year...Samba De Baiano wrote:Honestly Mallorca, Real Sociedad and Racing are the Fulhams of La Liga. I agree with Sepp separate the wheat from the chaff.
to be honest any of those teams could beat newcastle with ease home or away... but i also wouldn't be surprised to see newcastle win...
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The only player I would take is Arango and maybe Basinas. The rest are piss poor.
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Samba De Baiano wrote:Honestly Mallorca, Real Sociedad and Racing are the Fulhams of La Liga. I agree with Sepp separate the wheat from the chaff.
Celta are hardly a great team either, in fact if i were to compare them to a EPL side it would be Fulham or Boro.
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COTR wrote:kimbo has a very relevent point though... to qualify for europe they must have had a good team that year...Samba De Baiano wrote:Honestly Mallorca, Real Sociedad and Racing are the Fulhams of La Liga. I agree with Sepp separate the wheat from the chaff.
to be honest any of those teams could beat newcastle with ease home or away... but i also wouldn't be surprised to see newcastle win...
Come on, no one beats us with ease at home unless they're a top 4 side. You know that.
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