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    Post by doninha Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:02 pm

    Protheus wrote:
    doninha wrote:FC Porto

    Because it represents the institutional power, and "the system". Also the non-sportsmanship culture.

    You are biased lol!

    Institutional power? Last time i checked the Liga and Federation were controlled by non-porto guys. The discipline comitee always votes against Porto, give us the worst punichments, the exemplar ones, the "off games ones"(sumarissímos). Hell any one can see there are two mesures when it comes to punishments in Portugal. Evil or Very Mad

    Non-sportmanship culture?That is one thing our rivals love to say but to be honest i don´t see it as you say it. One thing we had was the will to fight for a result(not so much anymore we are becoming to soft, like in the Arsenal and Braga game). That doesn´t make a team have non-sportmanship culture.

    Well personally i do not hate a team that much, peraphs i have a bigger rivalry with Benfica for historical reasons but i enjoy to win more than to enjoy the others defeats. But since we have been sucsseceful in the last decades it is only natural our rivals hate us because the one who wins is always hated more. May it continue for a long time, it is a good sign Twisted Evil

    Ask any non-Porto fan, the feeling is national, and not only from Sporting and Benfica fans.

    Just check who are the "usual suspects" on every dirt it happens in our football. No use to talk about trips, Black Diamonds, whores and others.

    Not returning the ball to the opponent when loosing is disgusting, and its Mr. Reinaldo Telles makes sure every player does it.

    What I most admire in Porto is the fighting spirit and competitiveness - and for me that isn't anti-sportsmanship.
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    Post by waft the Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:47 pm

    I really don't hate any team

    But i don't like Lpool and Chelsea
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:49 pm

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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:49 pm

    MB - A New Era wrote:I really don't hate any team

    But i don't like Lpool and Chelsea

    Mighty.. are you sure you are alright?.. you didn't wake up with a big bump on your head or anything, right?
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    Post by waft the Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:54 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    MB - A New Era wrote:I really don't hate any team

    But i don't like Lpool and Chelsea

    Mighty.. are you sure you are alright?.. you didn't wake up with a big bump on your head or anything, right?

    No seriously hate is a strong word and i don't like Lpool and Chelsea mainly cause of their style of football.

    Real Madrid are just terrible....I dont hate them, i just feel sorry for them Laugh
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:56 pm

    MB - A New Era wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    MB - A New Era wrote:I really don't hate any team

    But i don't like Lpool and Chelsea

    Mighty.. are you sure you are alright?.. you didn't wake up with a big bump on your head or anything, right?

    No seriously hate is a strong word and i don't like Lpool and Chelsea mainly cause of their style of football.

    Real Madrid are just terrible....I dont hate them, i just feel sorry for them Laugh

    You feel sorry for the biggest club in the world ? Now thats funny Laugh
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    Post by waft the Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:00 pm

    The 'best team in the world' havent won anything for 3 seasons Laugh
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:03 pm

    MB, what about the new leaf?
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:04 pm

    MB - A New Era wrote:The 'best team in the world' havent won anything for 3 seasons Laugh

    That doesnt matter, we could go 10 seasons without winning naything and you still couldnt match us in titles LOL

    Correct me if im wrong but didnt you guys go 4-5 season without winning anything not long ago ?

    BTW: its 2 seasons for us not 3 Wink
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:04 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:MB, what about the new leaf?

    He smoked it
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:05 pm

    Hahaha.
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    Post by waft the Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:15 pm

    barca are a bigger club than real ATM mate

    you cnt hide the fact that we're champions
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:17 pm

    MB - A New Era wrote:barca are a bigger club than real ATM mate

    you cnt hide the fact that we're champions

    You haver a better team and you are champions, but you got a long way to go to be on the same level as us.

    9-2 to us Razz
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    Post by Jaime Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:34 pm

    @LSR

    I love the avatar! Laugh
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:39 pm

    Jaime wrote:@LSR

    I love the avatar! Laugh

    lol Cheers mate Ale
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    Post by Protheus Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:09 pm

    doninha wrote:
    Protheus wrote:
    doninha wrote:FC Porto

    Because it represents the institutional power, and "the system". Also the non-sportsmanship culture.

    You are biased lol!

    Institutional power? Last time i checked the Liga and Federation were controlled by non-porto guys. The discipline comitee always votes against Porto, give us the worst punichments, the exemplar ones, the "off games ones"(sumarissímos). Hell any one can see there are two mesures when it comes to punishments in Portugal. Evil or Very Mad

    Non-sportmanship culture?That is one thing our rivals love to say but to be honest i don´t see it as you say it. One thing we had was the will to fight for a result(not so much anymore we are becoming to soft, like in the Arsenal and Braga game). That doesn´t make a team have non-sportmanship culture.

    Well personally i do not hate a team that much, peraphs i have a bigger rivalry with Benfica for historical reasons but i enjoy to win more than to enjoy the others defeats. But since we have been sucsseceful in the last decades it is only natural our rivals hate us because the one who wins is always hated more. May it continue for a long time, it is a good sign Twisted Evil

    Ask any non-Porto fan, the feeling is national, and not only from Sporting and Benfica fans.

    Just check who are the "usual suspects" on every dirt it happens in our football. No use to talk about trips, Black Diamonds, whores and others.

    Not returning the ball to the opponent when loosing is disgusting, and its Mr. Reinaldo Telles makes sure every player does it.

    What I most admire in Porto is the fighting spirit and competitiveness - and for me that isn't anti-sportsmanship.

    Did you really expect a Benfica or Sporting fan to say otherwise??? They are rivals anyway.
    National? You meant benfiquistas and sportinguistas? Of course all who are fans, fanatic or not, always say the same.
    Funny how in Portugal everytime a sportinguista and a benfiquista say something bad about Porto it becomes national heheh. Well the 3 clubs have almost 90% of the fans so that is a false notion.

    The thing about not returning the ball was mostly during the Mourinho era and note that Porto were not the only one(i am not defending that kind of thing as i hate acts of non-sportmanship) to do it, both domesticly or at the international level.
    As for Reinaldo to defend it or not i don´t care less. I don´t. One thing is the supporters, other are the black sheeps. Every club has them.

    The fighting spirit is gone or at least very hollow nowadays. It vanished when Porto sold tons of portuguese with the Porto mystic and bought average brazilians and the like(nothing against brazilians but the quality of players bought) that do not feel the club and do not know the passion that comes with it.
    I am rather pessimistic about that, we will neeed a great wipe out of tons of average players... and the SAD administration for that matter.

    About the scandals, you know how the media works in Portugal. It is better to say bad things about Porto and get 60% or more of the supporters by your side than to say good things about a club with about 20% of the supporters and anger the rest.
    The thing is Porto is a love/hate kind of club. We will never be the friendly club everyone likes, we will always be the one that provokes strong feelings towards or against it.
    I am sure many things are wrong but when it is Porto it is news,when it is the others it isn´t.
    There are no saints in our domestic football.
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    Post by doninha Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:41 pm

    ahahahhaha, but everyone knows where the true devil is. don't throw sand into other's eyes. The true scandal is that Italy itself had the guts to do something. Or the brother's Calheiros trip to Brazil was really an Accouting error? Or the hookers from Diamante Negro and that bar on the D. Afonso Henriques owned by Reinaldo. 15 years later, you can avoid talking about it and cover it. That was how Porto status and power was achieved.

    and it wasn't Mourinho instituting the not throwing the ball!!! I can't believe you actually written that!!! Are you really 34??? ... João Pinto the captain was the first to scream to young players when they . I remember Octávio on the line, Reinaldo...
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    Post by Protheus Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:16 pm

    doninha wrote:ahahahhaha, but everyone knows where the true devil is. don't throw sand into other's eyes. The true scandal is that Italy itself had the guts to do something. Or the brother's Calheiros trip to Brazil was really an Accouting error? Or the hookers from Diamante Negro and that bar on the D. Afonso Henriques owned by Reinaldo. 15 years later, you can avoid talking about it and cover it. That was how Porto status and power was achieved.

    and it wasn't Mourinho instituting the not throwing the ball!!! I can't believe you actually written that!!! Are you really 34??? ... João Pinto the captain was the first to scream to young players when they . I remember Octávio on the line, Reinaldo...

    Well i could talk about Calabote and stuff, there is no end to complains about injustices past. And i am not deniying or throwing sand but then again one belives what he wants and without proofs all rival (including you Wink - or even more as you hate Porto the most hehe) will belive anything they might say. As for me if you prove it then i will say you are right, giving the fact nothing is proven Wink

    So the power was achieved that way, you know that is really funny. So we reached a cup winners cup final we won the european cup in 87 and that how? Next you will tell me Porto was big in europe at the time. I can name you tons of games we were robbed but there is no need because that talk will lead us nowhere.

    Yes i am 34 and i have a season place for years ,at the old Antas Stadium and with Dragão Stadium now. So you are using something that happend a long time ago to say all Porto players are like that? Who is biased then?
    About Mourinho. I am a big fan of him but, like you said, i do not throw sand to the eyes. I say when i agree with his metods and when i don´t.
    And he was not very sporty. It is not because he is abroad i will say he is perfect though i like him to win after all he is portuguese and i am proud of it (do you remember the semis of the uefa cup vs Lazio?)

    Anyway i know you won´t change you opinion as the rivalry runs deep between the big 3 lol!
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    Post by L r d Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:18 pm

    Protheus wrote:(do you remember the semis of the uefa cup vs Lazio?)

    ...Ugh. Crying or Very sad

    Helder bloody Postiga.
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    Post by fcb Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:08 am

    Laugh @ LSR

    Seriously though, MightyBarca can still have banter with Madrid, doesn't mean he has to stop that.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:43 pm

    italian_hammer(DEANO!) wrote:

    Gabbidon>Dawson.... Not much in it.
    Ashton>Mido... I like Ashton a lot, but NO
    Mullins>Davids... Ditto for Mullins... NO.
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    Post by DD Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:25 pm

    Without a doubt:

    Vitesse Evil or Very Mad Grr


    Derby enemies. Absolute scum of the earth, yokels for supporters, always fighting, playing ugly football, green with envy for NEC. Think they're hot shit because they have one of the biggest stadiums oin Netherlands. Bahh.

    Wouldn't shed a tear if they relegate.

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