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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:13 am

    Real Or Chelsea:

    Sheva:

    Goals So Far: 1

    Cost: 30M Pounds

    Wages: Region of 130-150k a week

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    Ruud Van Nistlerooy:

    Goals So Far: 5

    Cost: 10M Pounds

    Wages: Region of 50-75k Euros/week

    Age: 29

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    Post by Effenberg Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:15 am

    Or you could look at it this way...

    'Are Sheva's struggles making Chelsea a better team?'

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/greg_lalas/10/03/sheva.drogba/index.html
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:16 am

    Real Madrid based on the stats.. without a doubt.

    Let's see at the end of the season..
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:20 am

    Sheva>>RVN

    However, RVN is one year younger.

    I think its clear to all that Real got the better deal ok
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:21 am

    Also in goal scoring records wise RVN > Sheva in the CL (proper) goal stats.
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:22 am

    Tweedledum wrote:Sheva>>RVN

    However, RVN is one year younger.

    I think its clear to all that Real got the better deal ok

    I think that is very clear, but talking about form wise, RVN obviously ahead, and more importantly Real got the better deal, both have similar sort of games/goal ratios.
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    Post by Effenberg Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:25 am

    Goals, goals, goals. What about team success?

    Which of the two teams has a better shot at winning the CL?

    And the money thing is completely irrelevant as Chelsea don't (have to) give a crap.
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:26 am

    Effenberg wrote:Goals, goals, goals. What about team success?

    Which of the two teams has a better shot at winning the CL?

    And the money thing is completely irrelevant as Chelsea don't (have to) give a crap.

    I never knew Chelsea nor RM were a one man team Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:26 am

    targey,

    i thought you didn't like the horse...
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:28 am

    I dont mind him...now, it just to prove RM can be market wise sometimes Wink
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:30 am

    Be better judged at the end of the season, however Ruud is in front so far.

    Still think he's stats are slightly misleading though, as he got all 5 of his goals in 2 of the games against poor opposition. The rest of the games he's not hit the back of the net.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:31 am

    Some one has to score against the little teams....
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:38 am

    If you cant score against the little teams how you going to score against the bigger? Laughing
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    Post by L r d Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:41 am

    As usual his stats are bollocks. chelsea won both cl games, and joint top of prem.
    madrid lost 1 cl game, and 4th or 5th.
    He has been poor against every good team he has faced. lyon villareal a.madrid.
    Sheva hasnt been great either so nobody got a good deal as yet
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:41 am

    Target Man want a bit of flattering for his team, thats all Razz

    At the ned of the day Chelsea>>Real Madrid though ok
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:41 am

    I like Ruud but that became his trait in the last couple of seasons. No real impact against the big teams like Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea.
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:43 am

    Tweedledum wrote:Target Man want a bit of flattering for his team, thats all Razz

    At the ned of the day Chelsea>>Real Madrid though ok

    Surprised No.... Embarassed

    As far as the comparision goes, only one way of finding out....


    @ Parky

    In honestly Ruud never was a prolific big game player for MU.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:44 am

    Tweedledum wrote:

    At the ned of the day Chelsea>>Real Madrid though ok

    In Europe Real Madrid also had better results than Chelsea so how come people are saying this...?
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:44 am

    The last 'big' game i remember him scoring in was agaisnt juventus
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:44 am

    @ LRD

    Answer my Q on "what are you listening to" Thread...
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:45 am

    @ ricardo

    So losing to Arsenal is a better result than losing to Barca? Whistle
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:45 am

    I remember Ivory Coast...
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:45 am

    Tweedledum wrote:The last 'big' game i remember him scoring in was agaisnt juventus

    He was never a big game player, just a good goal scorer!

    @ RJ

    Yeah, i reckon its just cos of the EPL success.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:46 am

    Tweedledum wrote:@ ricardo

    So losing to Arsenal is a better result than losing to Barca? Whistle


    based on this ranking...
    1 AC Milan Ita 31.2560 16.9285 31.6200 26.0675 7.4375 113.309
    2 FC Barcelona Esp 31.1150 16.7230 17.1040 34.1620 7.5555 106.659
    3 Internazionale Ita 28.2560 15.9285 22.6200 24.0675 4.4375 95.309
    4 Arsenal Eng 17.5200 17.7125 19.1385 31.7610 8.7735 94.905
    5 Liverpool Eng 20.5200 14.7125 30.1385 17.7610 7.7735 90.905
    6 Real Madrid Esp 27.1150 21.7230 18.1040 17.1620 6.5555 90.659
    7 Juventus Ita 29.2560 12.9285 23.6200 23.0675 1.4375 90.309
    8 Olympique Lyon Fra 10.6125 18.4550 23.7710 24.5680 8.4025 85.809
    9 Valencia Esp 27.1150 29.7230 14.1040 5.1620 8.5555 84.659
    10 Manchester United Eng 26.5200 15.7125 17.1385 12.7610 8.7735 80.905
    11 Chelsea Eng 5.5200 22.7125 25.1385 17.7610 8.7735 79.905
    12 FC Porto Por 24.5475 26.3825 13.6950 8.8150 5.0175 78.457
    13 Newcastle United Eng 15.5200 24.7125 27.1385 4.7610 5.7735 77.905
    14 Villarreal Esp 5.1150 20.7230 22.1040 24.1620 1.5555 73.659
    15 PSV Eindhoven Ned 8.0350 17.7875 24.9600 13.5025 7.0135 71.298
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:46 am

    Target Man wrote:

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    In honestly Ruud never was a prolific big game player for MU.

    His first few seasons he was. He scored a quality goal vs Arsenal and a hatrick vs Liverpool. Also scored against yourselves in the Champions league and many other good sides like two vs Lyon.

    It was just the last two seasons after his injury.
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:47 am

    Tweedledum wrote:@ ricardo

    So losing to Arsenal is a better result than losing to Barca? Whistle

    Didnt Chelsea and RM both go out the same round? scratch
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:50 am

    @ ricardo

    That 'ranking' is a load of bollocks as its a 5 year thing - we are talking about NOW.

    Chelsea only got all their money three summers ago....
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:51 am

    so...?
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    Post by golsud Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:52 am

    @TM

    You can always post how many European Cups Madrid have won to cheer yourself up Wink
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:52 am

    So Chelsea>real Madrid it ersm of squad.

    We can go through it player by player if you want but there is no point.

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