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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:53 am

    Or i could post how many CL nottingham forest have Whistle
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:55 am

    Tweedledum wrote:So Chelsea>real Madrid it ersm of squad.

    We can go through it player by player if you want but there is no point.

    because....?
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:55 am

    Tweedledum wrote:So Chelsea>real Madrid it ersm of squad.

    We can go through it player by player if you want but there is no point.

    The rankings do mean something Tweeds it shows consistency which is important esp in the CL, unlike one hit wonders like Porto, also until Chelsea win the CL they cant be said to be the best in Europe nor than other European giants.

    Also yes, Chelsea have the better squad, but give Capello time, Jose has been at the helm for 3 years now.
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    Post by golsud Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:55 am

    At least now none can say we have less European Cups than Forest Razz
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:55 am

    But past history doeasn't correlate with modern squads - as you say Forest have won the cL
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:56 am

    cule604 wrote:At least now none can say we have less European Cups than Forest Razz

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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:57 am

    Why are Chelsea better than RM... did they win more last seasons in Europe? did they win games from RM?

    NO, so you can't really say it! It wouldn't surprise me if RM beats Chelsea in the next rounds....
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:59 am

    Tweedledum wrote:But past history doeasn't correlate with modern squads - as you say Forest have won the cL

    To be an "European Giant" you have to consistently perform in the CL - No? Question


    Of course you have to, Team like Real, AC Milan who have been doing for yonks years will obviously be better than other in European success.

    As far as im concerned the rankings show the clubs that have consistently been a force in the CL, and that does have value rather being one hit wonders like Porto or 2 in the case of Forest.

    Chelsea are yet to make it into a final dont forget, but at this point in time Chelsea may edge it, but RM are a team in transition, under a new manager.
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:01 am

    ricardojol wrote:Why are Chelsea better than RM... did they win more last seasons in Europe? did they win games from RM?

    NO, so you can't really say it! It wouldn't surprise me if RM beats Chelsea in the next rounds....

    Exactly, Chelsea may be dominating the EPL but in the CL they and Real usually go out in the same rounds, theres not a big difference in the past years, and considering RM have been pants, is that a real accomplishment?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:02 am

    It looks like people in England believe Chelsea already won the European Cup....


    erm strange.... where does that comes from.....?


    Presss...?
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:03 am

    Chelsea are a class team, i for one like Jose Mourinho, but not having reached an Final and saying there better than RM ECL success wise isnt true, although i think Tweeds means more squad wise he may have a point.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:05 am

    what is squad wise....?????

    Is that more important than win cups nowadays????

    Why do we play football then....?
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:07 am

    Yeah but Real havent been doing so well there Laughing For all the squad sucess and money they've only won the Carling Cup along with the other two...Biggrin Whistle
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:09 am

    Of course they are cack... That's a fact but you can't say Chelsea are significant better than RM.....
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:10 am

    Nope
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:12 am

    So..

    Ruud > Sheva

    or

    Sheva > Ruud
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:14 am

    Sheva > Ruud

    But so far this season.....
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    Post by golsud Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:15 am

    Well as you said before Tweeds we are comparing current form, so in that case Ruud>Sheva (based on stats).
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:20 am

    cule604 wrote:Well as you said before Tweeds we are comparing current form, so in that case Ruud>Sheva (based on stats).

    Whats with pic, surely you can have 2 stars now... Laughing Laugh
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:21 am

    Sorry Ricardo, remind me exactly what Real Madrid won last season?

    After all to judge a club you have to look at their most recent exploits.

    This has got completely out of hand anyhow - all I was saying is that Sheva is better than RVN on paper but not on form Doh
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:22 am

    Tweedledum wrote:Sorry Ricardo, remind me exactly what Real Madrid won last season?

    After all to judge a club you have to look at their most recent exploits.

    This has got completely out of hand anyhow - all I was saying is that Sheva is better than RVN on paper but not on form Doh

    Put the game isnt played on paper Laughing

    Yeah we all know.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:24 am

    Tweedledum wrote:Sorry Ricardo, remind me exactly what Real Madrid won last season?

    After all to judge a club you have to look at their most recent exploits.

    This has got completely out of hand anyhow - all I was saying is that Sheva is better than RVN on paper but not on form Doh

    read.... Doh you said Chelsea are better than RM.... But I said "I don't think you can say Chalsea are significant better than RM.....!"
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    Post by golsud Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:24 am

    Target Man wrote:
    cule604 wrote:Well as you said before Tweeds we are comparing current form, so in that case Ruud>Sheva (based on stats).

    Whats with pic, surely you can have 2 stars now... Laughing Laugh

    It's the top of an Estrella Damm, the most popular beer here. They don't have one with two stars Sad
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:27 am

    LOL! Maybe they thought Barca wouldnt never be able to win it again Wink

    I wonder if thats avilable over here, taste nice or is it the cheap stuff/
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    Post by golsud Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:32 am

    It's like the Carling of Catalonia, it's MUCH better though.
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    Post by TM Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:34 am

    Ah willl have to try it San Miguel is nice too
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:48 am

    On current form RVN>Sheva but on current form Drogba>RVN Wink

    And Johnson>Adriano Wink - thats true anyway...
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    Post by DS Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:56 pm

    Ruud will bag 25 -30 goals in a season easily if he is given the service.
    Real got the better deal for me.
    Sheva, on the other hand is at the moment struggling to adapt to EPl , also the way Chelsea play he wont get 20+ goals.
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:57 pm

    AC Milan > Man United

    Sheva had better service than Ruud :

    Ruud > Sheva
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:38 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:Real Madrid based on the stats.. without a doubt.

    Let's see at the end of the season..

    I agree, you cant say till the end of the season.

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