Barcelona v Chelsea (The European Classic) (Oct 18 & 31)

Effenberg wrote:Weren't refs supposed to give yellow cards to people waving imaginary cards this season?

I thought that too. Is it only British fans who don't like card waving and don't like diving? On SKY Sports they had Graham Souness, Michael Laudrup and Ruud Gullit discussing diving. They agreed that it was cheating but that in many countries it is regarded as 'being clever' and part of the game. The latter two said they used to get stick from fans in some countries for playing honestly (which they said they always did).

Diving I don't approve of, especially when it is not even a foul, exaggerating, is not commendable, but bearable.. Card waving, I don't care..

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:Diving I don't approve of, especially when it is not even a foul, exaggerating, is not commendable, but bearable.. Card waving, I don't care..

I would say card waving is worse than diving (unless it's diving to win a penalty)

i dont really care to much about waving cards, because refs should be strong enough to have their own opionen.allthough crowding the ref with more then 2 players is not acceptable.

Uefa is "sure" to investigate the match between Chelsea and Barcelona, says its president Lennart Johansson.

Ten bookings led to players surrounding the referee, who was confronted at the end by Barcelona coach Frank Rijkaard.

"I cannot deny that we have been sleeping by not taking action earlier," said Johansson after the latest stormy Champions League tie between the sides.

"I'm sure now things will happen as it was so obvious and the people we had in place who saw it will report it."

Chelsea can expect a fine because any team picking up five or more bookings in a game is automatically punished.

The size of the fine and any penalty for Rijkaard will depend on the reports of referee Stefano Farina and Uefa match delegate Wolfgang Thierrichetr.
Uefa is keen to stamp out players surrounding the referee during a match and may decide to make an example of both clubs as well as Rijkaard.
"I'm against this behaviour but I don't make the decisions, they are taken by the disciplinary bodies," said Johansson.

Uefa communications director William Gaillard said on Wednesday: "We may openan investigation if there are a large amount of cards, if other incidents are mentioned by the referee or Uefa match delegate or if either team files a complaint.

"We will examine the reports when we receive them and see if there is anything that would lead to an investigation being opened."
Barcelona could also be in trouble after their fans are thought to have hurled bottles at the Chelsea players.

The incident took place when the Premiership side's players applauded the travelling supporters in the top tier of the Nou Camp after the final whistle.

Blues midfielder Frank Lampard said: "I knew things were raining down but none of them hit me.

"There was a bit of banter with the Spanish fans and that was good."

Funny how this thread is now 52 pages long!!

@S4P no hard feelings, and hopefully we will meet again in May..

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:Funny how this thread is now 52 pages long!!

@S4P no hard feelings, and hopefully we will meet again in May..

You too

I have really enjoyed the back to back games over the past fortnight (not only because of the results), but because of the banter and even the arguments too

Best of luck

supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i dont really care to much about waving cards, because refs should be strong enough to have their own opionen.allthough crowding the ref with more then 2 players is not acceptable.

Very good point...judging by the amount of abuse Barcelona players get for doing that, you'd think the ref doesn't know how to issue cards and will do exactly what he's told by a player.