Top leagues miss top clubs

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Do you want any of these back?

I wouldnt mind Sporting Gijon coming up. Great club with alot of history in primera who have had brilliant players most of which were homegrown.

They also have the oldest professional football stadium in Spain, having been built in 1908 on the site of an old windmill, hence the name " el molinon "

36 seasons in La Liga
Primera División runner up in 1979.
Runners-Up of Copa del Rey: 1981 and 1982
38 seasons in Segunda División.

Famous players to have played for them,

Enzo Ferrero
Roberto Trotta
Patricio Graff
Leo Biagini
Dario Scotto
Georgi Iordanov
Milan Luhový
Rónald Gómez
Mate Bilic
Daniel Šarić
Mario Stanić
Dragoje Leković
Vladimir Popovic
Rashidi Yekini
Igor Lediakhov
Yuri Nikiforov
Dmitry Cheryshev
Marko Perovic

Juan Carlos Ablanedo
Luis Enrique "Hijo de puta"
Enrique de Castro González "Quini"
Marcelino Elena
Julio Salinas
David Villa
Abelardo Fernández
Antonio Maceda
Javier Manjarín
Thomas Christiansen
Pier

Sporting and another Asturian team, Real Oviedo.

For England....
Nottingham Forest, Ipswich and Derby

For Italy
Juventus and Bologna

fuck Genoa

obviously juventus affects serie a attendence alot and we need them.

i would like to see Genoa back in the top flight, one more scudetto and they get a star, thatd be nice.

And Napoli needs to come back, we need more southern teams in Serie A.

Bologna only because Signori played for them, and i could care less about Verona, one veronan team is good enough (Chievo)

For my personal entertainment:

Genoa
Juventus
Napoli
Bologna

Koln
Kaiserslautern

Leeds
Sheffield Wed

Sporting Gijón
Salamanca

Montpellier

Are the clubs I would like to see again in 1st divisoin.

Guimaraes needs to come back up in Portugal.

italian_hammer(DEANO!) wrote:For England....
Nottingham Forest, Ipswich and Derby

For Italy
Juventus and Bologna

fuck Genoa

Take that back Deano!

England:

NORWICH
Coventry
Derby
Wimbledon (AFC I suppose, one day maybe!)
West Brom


Spain:

Cadiz
Sporting
Valladolid
Oviedo
Tenerife

I always like Queens Park Rangers in England...what division are they in now? I'd like to see QPR and Forest in the Premiership.

And while we are at it, let's get Stade Reims back in the top flight for French football!

Jaime wrote:I always like Queens Park Rangers in England...what division are they in now? I'd like to see QPR and Forest in the Premiership.

And while we are at it, let's get Stade Reims back in the top flight for French football!

QPR are in the Championship at the moment although they have had a difficult season so far the defence has been all over the place. They are managed by former Villa coach John Gregory however so have good guidance. An unusual choice in all honesty. They will always be overhsadowed by Chelsea and up to a point Fulham in West London.

I like their shirts...plus they've had some good players Trevor Francis, Andy Sinton, Ray Wilkins, Les Ferdinand...probably others that I'm forgetting.

Much as I hate them, Leeds should be in the PL. As should Forest. These are the two biggest ones below the PL.

Italy has a ridiculous number of good clubs in B.

In England
Forest
Leeds
Sunderland perhaps

Germany
1860 Munich just for the rivalry
Kaiserslautern

Any big team in Dutch league that is down?

Hardrada wrote:Much as I hate them, Leeds should be in the PL. As should Forest. These are the two biggest ones below the PL.

Italy has a ridiculous number of good clubs in B.

Yeh the amount of huge Serie B clubs is a joke. I suppose it shows the stregnth and depth of big clubs in Italy.

If you comapre it to Spain, this amount of big teams is zero! I think it is fair to say that Sporting would be the biggest, but it is not as if they are huge like some of the Serie B teams.

nCfC-CaDiZ-RiQuElMe wrote:

italian_hammer(DEANO!) wrote:For England....
Nottingham Forest, Ipswich and Derby

For Italy
Juventus and Bologna

fuck Genoa

Take that back Deano!

Ipswich because West Ham always beat them

but fuck Genoa

italian_hammer(DEANO!) wrote:

nCfC-CaDiZ-RiQuElMe wrote:

italian_hammer(DEANO!) wrote:For England....
Nottingham Forest, Ipswich and Derby

For Italy
Juventus and Bologna

fuck Genoa

Take that back Deano!

Ipswich because West Ham always beat them

but fuck Genoa

Thank fuck. I got scared that you liked them for just a second there!

doninha wrote:
Genoa

MezIsHere wrote:
Genoa

So excluding Juve, Napoli are the biggest club in Serie B? Sporting in Segunda? Leeds in Championship? Kaiserslautern in Bundesliga 2? Strasborg from Ligue 2? All in agreement of that?

I suppose there is debate in England in that Forest and Sheffield Wednesday are worth a shout. Also Genoa in Serie B....

nCfC-CaDiZ-RiQuElMe wrote: Genoa

CLASIFICACIÓN HISTÓRICA
P Equipo PT PJ PG PE PP
1 Real Madrid C.F. 3431 2354 1346 501 507
2 F.C. Barcelona 3307 2354 1285 493 576
3 Ath. Club Bilbao 2786 2354 1046 540 768
4 Valencia C.F. 2741 2256 1002 526 728
5 At. de Madrid 2697 2206 1020 516 670
6 R.C.D. Espanyol 2284 2218 812 508 898
7 Real Sociedad 2166 2008 753 503 752
8 Sevilla F.C. 2152 2000 796 446 758
9 R. Zaragoza C.D. 1863 1768 635 465 668
10 Real Betis B. S. 1551 1434 522 358 554
11 R.C. Celta de V. 1521 1480 513 340 627
12 R.C. Deportivo 1435 1198 470 292 436
13 R. Valladolid D. 1268 1276 415 325 536
14 Real Oviedo C.F. 1174 1192 408 292 492
15 Real Racing Club 1160 1210 389 271 550
16 Real S. de Gijón 1152 1230 410 304 516
17 C.At. de Osasuna 983 986 332 241 413
18 U.D. Las Palmas 937 1020 345 225 450
19 R.C.D. Mallorca 808 732 240 195 297
20 C.D. Málaga 543 647 186 171 290

Top twenty teams in the history of the la Liga. Valladolid, Oviedo, Sporting, Las Palmas, and Malaga all in Segunda or lower.

This season any 3 out of Bilbao, Sociedad, Mallorca, Espanyol, perhaps even Betis if they don't sort things out, could all go down as well.

Osasuna is in that group as well!

Haha must be telepathy...I was going to include them too.

Easy boys, there's only one SPORTING: SCP

Jaime wrote:CLASIFICACIÓN HISTÓRICA
P Equipo PT PJ PG PE PP
1 Real Madrid C.F. 3431 2354 1346 501 507
2 F.C. Barcelona 3307 2354 1285 493 576
3 Ath. Club Bilbao 2786 2354 1046 540 768
4 Valencia C.F. 2741 2256 1002 526 728
5 At. de Madrid 2697 2206 1020 516 670
6 R.C.D. Espanyol 2284 2218 812 508 898
7 Real Sociedad 2166 2008 753 503 752
8 Sevilla F.C. 2152 2000 796 446 758
9 R. Zaragoza C.D. 1863 1768 635 465 668
10 Real Betis B. S. 1551 1434 522 358 554
11 R.C. Celta de V. 1521 1480 513 340 627
12 R.C. Deportivo 1435 1198 470 292 436
13 R. Valladolid D. 1268 1276 415 325 536
14 Real Oviedo C.F. 1174 1192 408 292 492
15 Real Racing Club 1160 1210 389 271 550
16 Real S. de Gijón 1152 1230 410 304 516
17 C.At. de Osasuna 983 986 332 241 413
18 U.D. Las Palmas 937 1020 345 225 450
19 R.C.D. Mallorca 808 732 240 195 297
20 C.D. Málaga 543 647 186 171 290

Another way of ranking the sides per seasons in the primera....

1. Real Madrid 75
=. Barcelona 75
=. Athletic 75
4. Valencia 71
=. Espanyol 71
6. Atletico 69
7. Sociedad 62
=. Sevilla 62
9. Zaragoza 52
10. Celta Vigo 45
11. Betis 43
12. Racing 38
=. Oviedo 38
14. Valladolid 37
15. Depor 36
=. Sporting 36
17. Las Palmas 31
18. Osasuna 28
19. Mallorca 20
=. Malaga 20

Still comes out with the same segunda clubs....

After this top 20 however there are a huge host of segunda and segunda B clubs from 21st to 29th...

Stade Reims for France

I would like to see back in Italy the likes of:
Juventus- even after what that prick Moggi did, they are still a part of Italian history and they will remain one of the big clubs!
Napoli- an old club, that has been missed over the years!
Genoa- Also old, and is a great team. My friend played for them so would love to see them back up again!
Bologna!