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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:03 pm

    The clearest indication yet that David Beckham may be on the point of leaving Real Madrid came yesterday amid reports in Spain that the club are privately hoping that he does not sign a new contract.

    One of the club's directors told Spain's biggest-selling football magazine Don Balón that while publicly Real have said they want him to stay for two more years, they would prefer Beckham to quit.

    The unnamed director, a member of the club's 18-man board, is quoted as saying: "We can't admit it but it would be best for both sides if Beckham left.

    "[Coach Fabio] Capello doesn't want him and [Beckham] can't carry on as things are, spending so much time on the bench because it would lose him some of his multi-million-pound advertising deals. It's no good for the club either, to have such a famous player on the sidelines like a ticking time-bomb."

    The claims, which will increase speculation that Real Madrid could even try to sell Beckham in January when he would still command a fee, also suggest that Capello does not want to keep Beckham. The article quotes a member of Madrid's technical staff saying: "Why would we invest £16m over two years on a player who is not to the liking of the coach?"

    The Beckham camp last night dismissed the interview. A spokesman said: "We are dubious about comments made by an unnamed member of the board. If it is true, it goes against everything Capello, Ramon Calderon and Pedrag Mijatovic have been saying to us and to the world's media, that they want him to stay. Talks are ongoing and positive and we expect another meeting very soon." Real president Calderon, sporting director Mijatovic and Capello have all said they want Beckham to stay.

    But the unnamed director added: "What Calderon said two months ago is one thing and what he wants now is another thing entirely. Capello prefers a different type of player and, in the club, everybody would be relieved if Beckham, of his own accord, said he was going to play in the US. That way, nobody could throw it back in Calderon's face that he was the one who had dispensed with the services of an icon like Beckham."

    Beckham has started just three league games and one Champions' League match under Capello and has admitted he could not stand a further two years on the bench. And with MSL clubs now allowed to break their wage cap for one player, a move to the US looks an increasingly viable option and there will be no shortage of clubs in January tempted by the prospect of talking to Beckham, who will be free to begin negotiating a move away from Spain.

    While two Real veterans, Roberto Carlos and Guti, have both agreed new deals this week, Beckham's talks remain ongoing and club figures such as former manager and Champions' League winner Vicente Del Bosque have expressed their doubts over giving him a new deal.

    Del Bosque said: "He has had a brilliant career and his conduct is always excellent. The economic marriage between Beckham and the club could be important but if he is not in the team it is bad business."

    Spanish magazine Don Balón was last night standing by its boardroom revelations. Real, who have been known to use the press to leak stories, were given the chance to comment but declined to do so.
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    Post by toon h Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:08 pm

    it would be a shame. Beckham still has some good football in him. Im sure there are plenty of clubs that would be interested. They wouldn't want to pay what he earns at RM, but I am sure that is not the most important thing on Beckham's mind now.
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    Post by Cesc Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:13 pm

    I think he will end up at Inter Milan.

    They took Figo from Real Madrid remember.
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    Post by Torrente Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:14 pm

    Cesc-Fab wrote:I think he will end up at Inter Milan.

    They took Figo from Real Madrid remember.

    Not to mention Samuel, Solari and Cambiasso
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    Post by Kroos Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:15 pm

    i never liked beckham, he should retire from football Wink
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    Post by toon h Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:16 pm

    many people underestimate him. He is a really humble player that puts in more effort than most.
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    Post by Torrente Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:21 pm

    I think that whether the story about the Madrid director is made up or not, there has to be some truth to the claim that the Madrid board don't really want Beckham to stay. The amount of time it has taken to get Beckham to renew his contract is amazing. I know we had a similar situation with Casillas but in his case it was a bit different since everyone knew he wanted to stay and would sign for us if his contract was improved.

    Personally, I would prefer if we sold him in the January transfer window than letting him go on a free transfer in the summer. We could still make a good amount of money for him since clubs know that whatever they spend they will get back in shirt sales alone. However, I wouldn't mind if we renew his contract because he could remain as a squad player and if he chooses to leave at any point, we could demand a big transfer fee for him.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:32 pm

    Real Madrid all about money... and money... and money.. When will you realise that football is entertainment ? Wink


    (of course it is important to win too)
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:36 pm

    Torrente wrote:
    Cesc-Fab wrote:I think he will end up at Inter Milan.

    They took Figo from Real Madrid remember.

    Not to mention Samuel, Solari and Cambiasso

    I never understood why you let those go.. Samuel is class (and he was finally adapting to Spanish football), Solari was solid and never complained and Cambiasso is a top class defensive midfielder (much better than Emerson and Diarra).

    Figo was getting on, but it wasn't really that nice to let him go in the manner you did considering that he took a huge chance going to you Mad
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    Post by Torrente Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:38 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:Real Madrid all about money... and money... and money.. When will you realise that football is entertainment ? Wink


    (of course it is important to win too)


    "The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind." Cool
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    Post by Torrente Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:44 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Torrente wrote:
    Cesc-Fab wrote:I think he will end up at Inter Milan.

    They took Figo from Real Madrid remember.

    Not to mention Samuel, Solari and Cambiasso

    I never understood why you let those go.. Samuel is class (and he was finally adapting to Spanish football), Solari was solid and never complained and Cambiasso is a top class defensive midfielder (much better than Emerson and Diarra).

    Figo was getting on, but it wasn't really that nice to let him go in the manner you did considering that he took a huge chance going to you Mad

    Personally, I would have kept all those players. But there were generally good reasons why they left.

    -Solari. Everyone wanted him to stay, but he asked for a transfer in the summer to get first team football. The club had a lot of respect for him and even though they didn't want him to leave, they sold him out of respect for his wishes.

    -Figo. Big mistake to sell him. He was one our best players in his last season with us. But he did have a fallout with Wanderley "el cuadrado magico" Luxemburgo. Luxe is the one who asked Figo to be sold. The one time Perez should NOT have listened to the coach, he did.

    -Samuel. He just didn't seem to fit in our system. The amount of yellow cards and fouls he commited was unprecedented. I think we should have given him more time to adapt to La Liga but his fallout with the fans sealed his destiny, when he made aggressive gestures to the fans after scoring a goal.

    -Cambiasso. I wasn't really disappointed when he left because he was never that good for us. I wish we would have bought a repacement though. I think he's much better suited to Seria A where he has more time on the ball.
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    Post by Jaime Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:48 pm

    Torrente wrote:However, I wouldn't mind if we renew his contract because he could remain as a squad player and if he chooses to leave at any point, we could demand a big transfer fee for him.

    But I think the point is that Beckham is not going to sign a new contract if he is "just" going to be a squad player. I think he could still play a couple of more years if he was playing in the right system, but Capello's tactics do not suit him. I guess we'll find out in 37 days...
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    Post by Jaime Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:55 pm

    Figo was a victim of the decadance of the "galactico" era. His signing was very symbolic of a period that would be fruitful in Madrid and his departure was the beginning of the end as well. He certainly would not have been productive in Luxemburgo's system and as such, what was the point in keeping him? The same old gang could not carry on forever. Someone had to be the first to go and it was Figo. Zidane next. And now Beckham and Ronaldo are facing diminished roles as well. Interestingly enough, the only two "galacticos" that have withstood the changing times were the two that were here before the press even coined the phrase "galactico".
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    Post by Torrente Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:08 pm

    @Jaime

    I don't see how Capello's tactics don't necessarily suit him. He wants players who track back and defend (which Beckham always does) and he plays RVN as a striker, whom Beckham had a great partnership with in ManU. If anything, Capello is probably the best coach for Beckham that we've had since he signed for us. The problem is that Beckham has been in awful form all season. If he had taken his opportunity and played well in the first few games when he was a started, he wouldn't be in a bench right now. In the games where Beckham started, he could barely get a cross in the area. I don't think RVN even managed to head a single cross from him.

    I agree with what you say about Figo to some extent, but I think that at the very least we should have bought a replacement. We let a world class winger go for a small sum and were left with only Beckham as an RB.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:10 pm

    The Beckham - Ruud combination is well over rated, started by the media to prove there agenda with Fergie after Beckham left.
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    Post by Jaime Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:15 pm

    If Capello's tactics suited Beckham, Beckham wouldn't be on the bench. I think Beckham needs to play in a more traditional 4-4-2 to be successful.
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    Post by Torrente Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:25 pm

    At the moment, Beckham doesn't fit into ANY system simply because the guy is not even able to cross anymore. The only good ball in he's put all season was the long pass to Cassano for his goal against Levante. I'm sure Capello noticed this which is why he benched him.

    I agree that Beckham would probably fit better in a 4-4-2 system though.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:21 pm

    Torrente wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:Real Madrid all about money... and money... and money.. When will you realise that football is entertainment ? Wink


    (of course it is important to win too)


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    Then forget about Kaká, Gago, Chivu etc. and sign Abramovich..
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    Post by Luis Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:26 pm

    I think Liverpool should sign beckham on the cheap, hes better than Pennant and imagine his crosses into crouch and Kuyt
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    Post by Cesc Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:29 pm

    Luis wrote:I think Liverpool should sign beckham on the cheap, hes better than Pennant and imagine his crosses into crouch and Kuyt
    Your joking right Exclamation Question

    Laugh ok

    Beckham is held in very high regard with Utd fans still. He would sign for almost any club in the world (even non-league) before Liverpool.
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    Post by Luis Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:32 pm

    im not actually joking, i know he would never come but its not a bad signing, still a fantastic crosser and he'll be going cheap, anyones better than Pennant at the moment anyway!
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    Post by Super Progress Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:35 pm

    any big club knows he doesnt have the class needed for a big club so he is unlikely to go to a big one.and any club that isnt in cl is not going to interest him.i can see any other way clubs then american ones.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:35 pm

    His wages would be about £100,000 - £120,000. More than Gerrard's.

    Not sure he'll take to well to that.
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    Post by A & K Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:24 pm

    Figo' sell was stupid (although he was widely critisized) so was Makelele's in 2003. When u see the way they spent their money stupidely, they could have easily increase his wages.
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    Post by Super Progress Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:29 pm

    if you followed the thing with makelele you know it was never really a case with having enough money. esp after getting becks.it was perez who needs to be the boss and he didnt really belive in defensive players hence viera never joining.

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