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    Nani v. Castelen

    Poll

    Who's better?

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    Total Votes: 14
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    Post by Luso Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:36 pm

    Thought I'd join in the fun.

    Sporting's Nani:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiHE2YA6gtA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isIOcN7Ia_8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlcYZKuW_oU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD5pdR-pfwU&mode=related&search=

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxffmftD1Ro&mode=related&search=

    Feyenoord's Castelen:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvr9A2yJvlg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPFOZb_P5F4

    (It's also a more fair comparison between Nani and Castelen than either against C. Ronaldo)


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    Post by TM Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:36 pm

    Copy Cat :(

    BTW are you a teacher?

    Ps:

    Robinho > Nani > Castelen > C.Ronaldo
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    Post by Luso Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:41 pm

    I know Laughing

    Nope, not a teacher, don't think I ever will be. (Haven't even graduated yet btw, finishing up my 4th year now...wish me luck!)

    I'm actually wondering what people think of Nani in relation to Quaresma and Ronaldo, especially after Scolari said Nani is Figo's successor...

    What yall think?
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    Post by Luso Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:53 pm

    btw, why the teacher question??? scratch
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    Post by Fey Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:53 pm

    Ignorant people, all of you Cool

    Castelen>>>Chuck Norris>>Robinho>>Nani>>Suarez>>>C.ronaldo
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    Post by Freddie Or Not Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:55 pm

    Why are all compilations of Dutch players accompanied by the most dreadful 'Euro' dance pop circa 1995?
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    Post by Owen Thomas Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:55 pm

    The Castelen bandwagon continues Cool
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    Post by Luso Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:57 pm

    Come on now, Nani is clearly quicker then Norris.

    Where was Castelen when Sporting played Feyenoord a couple seasons back Fey?

    You guys had Kalou at the time...but thankfully for us he didn't do much. Him and another guy where supposed to be quite the pair I remember.

    Liedson came out on top howerver Very Happy
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    Post by Luso Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:00 pm

    Freddie Or Not wrote:Why are all compilations of Dutch players accompanied by the most dreadful 'Euro' dance pop circa 1995?

    Easy there, I love Euro dance... king
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    Post by Fey Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:07 pm

    Luso 'Sporting' wrote:Come on now, Nani is clearly quicker then Norris.

    Where was Castelen when Sporting played Feyenoord a couple seasons back Fey?

    You guys had Kalou at the time...but thankfully for us he didn't do much. Him and another guy where supposed to be quite the pair I remember.

    Liedson came out on top howerver Very Happy

    He must have been injured, otherwise we would clearly won that match Cool . Kalou-Kuyt-Castelen what a force that was, now we have Charisteas I ll bet you know him as well Wink

    Remember Ricardo? Crying about a little firecracker. That had cost us the match, Ref was fully against us then...

    I was devestated after that match, my mate Joao couldt stop laughing and texting after that result...cunt.

    And about Norris, yes Nani is quicker BUT Chuck's endproduct is way better. <Ale>
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    Post by Fey Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:08 pm

    Freddie Or Not wrote:Why are all compilations of Dutch players accompanied by the most dreadful 'Euro' dance pop circa 1995?

    You should listen to Rai's music under his dozens compilations of Cruyff. Now that is dreadful..
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    Post by Isco Benny Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:08 pm

    @Luso,

    that last Nani goal from your comp ok ok

    What about this then:

    Nani Vs Castelan Vs Lennon:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfsdh3MlglY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40rFfdgm_B4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QATBSoHSaOQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFEx3stw7iM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFEx3stw7iM

    In order please
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    Post by bluenine Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:23 pm

    From all the rumours I have been hearing for the past week, it seems that Moratti has made Nani a prime transfer objective for Inter... I guess scolari's claim that he is the natural successor to Figo is only fueling the fire...

    Once Moratti sets his mind on someone, he usually gets!!!
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    Post by Batman Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:34 pm

    Luso 'Sporting' wrote:I know Laughing

    Nope, not a teacher, don't think I ever will be. (Haven't even graduated yet btw, finishing up my 4th year now...wish me luck!)

    I'm actually wondering what people think of Nani in relation to Quaresma and Ronaldo, especially after Scolari said Nani is Figo's successor...

    What yall think?

    Do you agree with this? i found it on the web about Nani:

    Well, when a new promissing player comes up it's natural to wish to
    compare him to a former "reference player" in the club's recent history
    so it's natural to say he reminds you of a Simão, Hugo Viana,
    Quaresma, Ronaldo, Moutinho or to a lesser degree Carlos Martins or
    Custódio. The similar player here is Quaresma but they are different
    players, Quaresma is a natural winger therefore his sprinting is more
    noticeable, and his dribbling flashier but comparing Nani now with the
    Spring of 2003's Quaresma I'd say Quaresma was more spectacular and
    dazzled the fans more but Nani is already more consistent and
    statistically better but they are indeed different players and Nani
    unlike Quaresma never goes invisible in the big games.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    He's a right footed playmaker with a very good left foot as well but
    he's played in the senior team as "inside-right", "inside-left",
    "playmaker" and often drops into the wings looking for space but isn't
    super fast going up the flank.

    I'd say his passing is perhaps not as good as Quaresma's yet but his
    passing is safer, he may not yet pass as well but he won't give the
    ball away as much as Quaresma did by loosing it in excessive dribbling,
    I'd say he has better vision than Quaresma had 3 years ago and
    tactically he's much better than Quaresma was but keep in mind Bento is
    a better coach than Bolloni was tactically. In fact many coaches are
    better tactically than Monsieur Bolloni.

    Nani doesn't drible as much as Quaresma does either, he's more of
    "short dribbler" meaning never letting the ball get too far away from
    him like wingers often do of kicking it forward and then acelarating
    after it, Nani keeps it closer to himself because he knows he isn't
    particularly fast and therefore keeps it close and does a short drible
    and a faint to get past opponents who he tricks into getting off
    balance with a faint to one side and a short drible in the opposite
    direction. Physically he looks much stronger than Quaresma at the same
    age, kid's got some strong looking legs, very strong, not fast but very
    strong and a good athlete but Quaresma is more unpredictable and
    creative.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    Skill
    Quaresma > Ronaldo > Nani

    Strength
    Ronaldo > Nani > Quaresma

    Pace
    Ronaldo > Quaresma > Nani

    Finishing
    Ronaldo > Quaresma > Nani

    Creativity
    Quaresma > Ronaldo/Nani?
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    Post by Deano Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:51 pm

    Castelen[/u]
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    Post by Machiavel Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:54 pm

    Fey wrote:
    Freddie Or Not wrote:Why are all compilations of Dutch players accompanied by the most dreadful 'Euro' dance pop circa 1995?

    You should listen to Rai's music under his dozens compilations of Cruyff. Now that is dreadful..

    Is one of the compilation's, that show the Feyenoord fans 'carrying' Cruijff?
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    Post by Fey Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:55 pm

    rai de Hunter wrote:
    Fey wrote:
    Freddie Or Not wrote:Why are all compilations of Dutch players accompanied by the most dreadful 'Euro' dance pop circa 1995?

    You should listen to Rai's music under his dozens compilations of Cruyff. Now that is dreadful..

    Is one of the compilation's, that show the Feyenoord fans 'carrying' Cruijff?

    Cunt. You voted for Nani
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    Post by Machiavel Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:56 pm

    Fey wrote:
    rai de Hunter wrote:
    Fey wrote:
    Freddie Or Not wrote:Why are all compilations of Dutch players accompanied by the most dreadful 'Euro' dance pop circa 1995?

    You should listen to Rai's music under his dozens compilations of Cruyff. Now that is dreadful..

    Is one of the compilation's, that show the Feyenoord fans 'carrying' Cruijff?

    Cunt. You voted for Nani

    I haven't voted .. stop being so paranoid.
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    Post by Luso Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:12 pm

    Fey wrote:
    Luso 'Sporting' wrote:Come on now, Nani is clearly quicker then Norris.

    Where was Castelen when Sporting played Feyenoord a couple seasons back Fey?

    You guys had Kalou at the time...but thankfully for us he didn't do much. Him and another guy where supposed to be quite the pair I remember.

    Liedson came out on top howerver Very Happy

    He must have been injured, otherwise we would clearly won that match Cool . Kalou-Kuyt-Castelen what a force that was, now we have Charisteas I ll bet you know him as well Wink

    Remember Ricardo? Crying about a little firecracker. That had cost us the match, Ref was fully against us then...

    I was devestated after that match, my mate Joao couldt stop laughing and texting after that result...cunt.

    And about Norris, yes Nani is quicker BUT Chuck's endproduct is way better. <Ale>

    Laughing Charisteas...you're a cheeky bastard Twisted Evil

    That FLARE wasn't what cost you the match though, we were better Wink Beat you twice by the same score.

    I'll give you the end product claim Ale


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    Post by Luso Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:27 pm

    Batman wrote:
    Luso 'Sporting' wrote:I know Laughing

    Nope, not a teacher, don't think I ever will be. (Haven't even graduated yet btw, finishing up my 4th year now...wish me luck!)

    I'm actually wondering what people think of Nani in relation to Quaresma and Ronaldo, especially after Scolari said Nani is Figo's successor...

    What yall think?

    Do you agree with this? i found it on the web about Nani:

    Well, when a new promissing player comes up it's natural to wish to
    compare him to a former "reference player" in the club's recent history
    so it's natural to say he reminds you of a Simão, Hugo Viana,
    Quaresma, Ronaldo, Moutinho or to a lesser degree Carlos Martins or
    Custódio. The similar player here is Quaresma but they are different
    players, Quaresma is a natural winger therefore his sprinting is more
    noticeable, and his dribbling flashier but comparing Nani now with the
    Spring of 2003's Quaresma I'd say Quaresma was more spectacular and
    dazzled the fans more but Nani is already more consistent and
    statistically better but they are indeed different players and Nani
    unlike Quaresma never goes invisible in the big games.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    He's a right footed playmaker with a very good left foot as well but
    he's played in the senior team as "inside-right", "inside-left",
    "playmaker" and often drops into the wings looking for space but isn't
    super fast going up the flank.

    I'd say his passing is perhaps not as good as Quaresma's yet but his
    passing is safer, he may not yet pass as well but he won't give the
    ball away as much as Quaresma did by loosing it in excessive dribbling,
    I'd say he has better vision than Quaresma had 3 years ago and
    tactically he's much better than Quaresma was but keep in mind Bento is
    a better coach than Bolloni was tactically. In fact many coaches are
    better tactically than Monsieur Bolloni.

    Nani doesn't drible as much as Quaresma does either, he's more of
    "short dribbler" meaning never letting the ball get too far away from
    him like wingers often do of kicking it forward and then acelarating
    after it, Nani keeps it closer to himself because he knows he isn't
    particularly fast and therefore keeps it close and does a short drible
    and a faint to get past opponents who he tricks into getting off
    balance with a faint to one side and a short drible in the opposite
    direction. Physically he looks much stronger than Quaresma at the same
    age, kid's got some strong looking legs, very strong, not fast but very
    strong and a good athlete but Quaresma is more unpredictable and
    creative.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    Skill
    Quaresma > Ronaldo > Nani

    Strength
    Ronaldo > Nani > Quaresma

    Pace
    Ronaldo > Quaresma > Nani

    Finishing
    Ronaldo > Quaresma > Nani

    Creativity
    Quaresma > Ronaldo/Nani?

    Um, I agree with some things.

    I'd say Quaresma is no worse a finisher than Ronaldo, and really has been the better finisher until now. As for strength, Quaresma is no push over either, although neither is as strong as Ronaldo.

    Nani is the slowest, but at the same stage I'd say he's the better finsiher of the three. He is pretty composed and I think that makes up for the differences between him and Quaresma/Ronaldo.

    He's almost like a cross between them...kinda.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:49 pm

    Deano Di Canio wrote:Castelen[/u]

    Great cheers, you are supporting the former FC DEN HAAG prospect!!!!

    lol!

    BTW I'm not neutral on this so I can't vote.... Crying or Very sad
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    Post by Keano Is God Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:22 pm

    nani
    could replace giggs for us
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    Post by Luso Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:30 am

    Giggs was much quicker than Nani is, but I don't think he had the two feet Nani does.

    Whatever the realities are, with Inter, Man Utd etc. chasing him, well it's all good...but they're gonna have to pay big. If they don't he stays put. Price tag right now is at 20M Euros, with Sporting wanting to push it up to 25M.

    I think Quaresma would be a good Giggs replacement. He's really matured and is quite the player these days.
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    Post by Luso Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:32 am

    I like this one too, great effort:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zQUnEM83QU
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    Post by Tweesus Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:35 am

    for me its Nani but only because Castelan have levelled off and not really improved recently - IMO he has it in himself to go to another level but he just seems incapable of it at present
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    Post by Luso Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:53 am

    Did you vote Tweeds?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:09 am

    Tweedledum wrote:for me its Nani but only because Castelan have levelled off and not really improved recently - IMO he has it in himself to go to another level but he just seems incapable of it at present

    The reason why Castelen has not improved recently has to do with the fact he is injured for a long while now!

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