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    Post by Machiavel Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:28 pm

    Just watching some of his goals/highlights at Sporting. I might be crazy to say this and its early days in his Manchester United career , but does anyone else reckon that Nani could become a better finisher than Cristiano Ronaldo , he can score goals you may not associate with Cristiano Ronaldo. One thing for sure is he is a complete different option and may serve Portugal and Man United well.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:38 pm

    I could see him playing as a centreforward quite effectively.
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    Post by MightyBarca Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:51 pm

    he's more of a quaresma type than ronaldo...better finisher then ronaldo but less quicker
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    Post by S4P Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:09 am

    Ronaldo scores a lot of goals but he is generally quite a poor finisher (in terms of number of shots - number of goals). From the little I've seen of Nani he certainly looks like he has a good eye for goal. I'm not sure he'll ever be as effective as Ronaldo (only time will tell) but I certainly think he will be a more clinical finisher.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:10 am

    Ronaldo isn't actually that brilliant a finisher to be honest. He's just so good at the other areas of his game that he can tot up a nice goal tally.

    Haven't seen Nani much one on one yet, so can't really comment. Seems to have a belter of a long range shot on him though
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    Post by Rez Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:55 am

    Ronaldos shooting is pretty average, but he scores lots of goals because he has a powerful shot and has a strikers instinct (he always gets into goalscoring positions).

    Nanis shooting is a lot better than Ronaldos, but he isnt as good as Ronaldo at creating/getting into the goalscoring opportunities.

    If they could both learn from each other, they would be spectacular duo for club and country.
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:19 pm

    I think if both Ronaldo and Nani were outside the pen box , Ronaldo will try and smack the ball past the goalie , whilst Nani may try and place it. And i agree with Rez , both different styles of play could compliment both their club and country and both could learn of each other. Nani may be a Quaresma type player than a Ronaldo type as MB says.
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    Post by Lard Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:39 pm

    Not really in agreement with anything on this thread. Nani has got a better shot than Ronaldo. But Ronaldo is a far superior finisher. In a one on one i would say Ronaldo will score 7 out of 10 times. Nani i reckon 4 out of 10 times.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:40 pm

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    Post by Lard Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:49 pm

    Tweedle wrote:lrdgic king

    Gotta catch on sometime tweedle Biggrin
    Also Ronaldo is far superior in the air and at least 10% of his goals are with his head
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:54 pm

    Impressive stats lrd.

    Of course I'd need to see some sort of referenced evidence to verify them Wink
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    Post by TM Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:01 pm

    Neither are very good finishers, wingers tend to score goals whilst running towards at the goal. Although it's worth mentioning Ronaldo scores a few headers everyseason, and lets not forget the FK's and PK's.

    From what i've seen of Nani at Man Utd, Ronaldo is miles ahead of him in the finishing department, Nani's shot are tame and straight at the keeper. But he's adapting i suppose.

    I don't expect Nani to be successful as Ronaldo in the near future.
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:05 pm

    Noone is saying Nani will become the better player or more effective , just that looking at his days at Sporting he may end up as a more clinical finisher. Just looking at ONE aspect of the game.
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    Post by TM Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:07 pm

    I don't think he will come anywhere close to being as good as CR tbh.

    Finishing will have to be seen, lets not forget Tevez could have claimed that goal.
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    Post by Lard Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:10 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Impressive stats lrd.

    Of course I'd need to see some sort of referenced evidence to verify them Wink

    I know what i see, my opinions are not all stats based like you tweedle mr arsenal stats stats stats without actually having a clue what they mean.

    Nani has a better shot on him. But one on one Ronaldo would be better for many reasons.
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:12 pm

    TM wrote:I don't think he will come anywhere close to being as good as CR tbh.

    Finishing will have to be seen, lets not forget Tevez could have claimed that goal.

    Wasn't talking about the goal against Spurs , more the type of goals he was scoring at Sporting , saying that at this moment in time Ronaldo is the better finisher , would Nani be able to eclipse or equal it (showed signs at Sporting)

    Ronaldo has more in his locker to make him by *far* the better player , and its this that Nani could take note from both at club + international level.

    btw where would you fit Quaresma in all of this ?
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    Post by TM Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:17 pm

    Raifael wrote:
    TM wrote:I don't think he will come anywhere close to being as good as CR tbh.

    Finishing will have to be seen, lets not forget Tevez could have claimed that goal.

    Wasn't talking about the goal against Spurs , more the type of goals he was scoring at Sporting , saying that at this moment in time Ronaldo is the better finisher , would Nani be able to eclipse or equal it (showed signs at Sporting)

    Ronaldo has more in his locker to make him by *far* the better player , and its this that Nani could take note from both at club + international level.

    btw where would you fit Quaresma in all of this ?

    Ronaldo on the right, Quaresma on left.

    No f**king way should Quaresma be dropped in favour to play Nani, not a chance. Quaresma is obviously the far better player and more of a threat and has worked v hard to work himself into the national scene.

    No more Figo means that CR will be able to play on the right, and Quaresma on the left, in a midfield of five, with the wingers making a 4-3-3 in attack.
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Thu May 13, 2010 1:33 am

    Lard wrote:Not really in agreement with anything on this thread. Nani has got a better shot than Ronaldo. But Ronaldo is a far superior finisher. In a one on one i would say Ronaldo will score 7 out of 10 times. Nani i reckon 4 out of 10 times.

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    Post by 110% Thu May 13, 2010 3:02 am

    In the EPL Nani's had 21 shots on goal (or 82 shots in total) and scored 3 of them, which is about 14% success rate for the shots on goal (or 4% if we are talking total shots), which is pretty shit.
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Thu May 13, 2010 8:54 am

    Machiavel wrote:Just watching some of his goals/highlights at Sporting. I might be crazy to say this and its early days in his Manchester United career , but does anyone else reckon that Nani could become a better finisher than Cristiano Ronaldo , he can score goals you may not associate with Cristiano Ronaldo. One thing for sure is he is a complete different option and may serve Portugal and Man United well.
    The jury is still out on this one
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    Post by Aristoskank Thu May 13, 2010 8:57 am

    110% wrote:In the EPL Nani's had 21 shots on goal (or 82 shots in total) and scored 3 of them, which is about 14% success rate for the shots on goal (or 4% if we are talking total shots), which is pretty shit.

    By comparison to whom?
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    Post by 110% Thu May 13, 2010 9:43 am

    Life wrote:
    110% wrote:In the EPL Nani's had 21 shots on goal (or 82 shots in total) and scored 3 of them, which is about 14% success rate for the shots on goal (or 4% if we are talking total shots), which is pretty shit.

    By comparison to whom?

    No comparison, just in general there were some comments on his finishing being good, and I was pointing out that I didn't think so, especially 3 goals to me does not imply good finishing

    We can compare him other midfielders that may be considered good finishers if you e.g. lampard, in the EPL 52 shots on goal and scored 22 goals, giving him a succes rate of 42%.

    Steven Gerrard has had a bad season by his standards and has scored 9 goals from 32 shots (28%).
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu May 13, 2010 10:08 am

    110% wrote:
    Life wrote:
    110% wrote:In the EPL Nani's had 21 shots on goal (or 82 shots in total) and scored 3 of them, which is about 14% success rate for the shots on goal (or 4% if we are talking total shots), which is pretty shit.

    By comparison to whom?

    No comparison, just in general there were some comments on his finishing being good, and I was pointing out that I didn't think so, especially 3 goals to me does not imply good finishing

    We can compare him other midfielders that may be considered good finishers if you e.g. lampard, in the EPL 52 shots on goal and scored 22 goals, giving him a succes rate of 42%.

    Steven Gerrard has had a bad season by his standards and has scored 9 goals from 32 shots (28%).

    Nani take any penalties?
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    Post by 110% Fri May 14, 2010 10:00 am

    How many penalties has lampard had and scored this season? I don't know and can't be bothered to look it up but let's assume 10 out of 10, in which case his stats would still be 12 goals out of 42 shots and therefore 28% (only double nani's success rate) instead of triple. Still doesn't make nani look good.

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