pre-match Arsenal v Man Utd discussion

Arsenal v Man Utd - 21/01/2007, Kick-off: 1600 GMT

League Position
1. Man Utd - 57 pts
4. Arsenal - 42 pts

Last 6 Games
Arsenal - D W W L W W
Man Utd - L W W W D W

Arsenal Home Record
P . . W . . D . . L . . F . . A
11 . . 6 . . 5 . . 0 . 28 . . 8

Man Utd Away Record
P . . W . . D . . L . . F . . A
11 . . 8 . . 2 . . 1 . 23 . . 8

Previous Meeting
Man Utd 0-1 Arsenal - 17/09/2006
Adebayor 86'

Man Utd: Kuszczak, Neville, Ferdinand, Brown, Silvestre (Evra 23'), Fletcher, Scholes (Carrick 78'), O'Shea, Ronaldo, Rooney (Solskjaer 77'), Saha.
Subs Not Used: Heaton, Vidic.

Arsenal: Lehmann, Eboue, Djourou, Toure, Gallas, Rosicky, Ljungberg, Silva, Fabregas, Hleb (Julio Baptista 68'), Adebayor (Flamini 88').
Subs Not Used: Almunia, Hoyte, Walcott.

Referee: G Poll

Eboue Targeting United Match
Arsenal's Ivorian right-back, Emmanuel Eboue, could give the club a big boost ahead of the weekend's looming showdown with Premiership pace-setters Manchester United.

Eboue says he hopes to recover from his ankle injury in time for the crunch visit of the Red Devils.

The pacy defender's injury originally flared up before Christmas - and recurred during the Gunners' 3-1 FA Cup Third Round victory over Liverpool on 6 January.

"I've been injured since the Portsmouth game and when I trained I still felt it a bit," Eboue told the club's website.

"But I hope to be back for Manchester United. I really, really want to play."

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Who should Man Utd play at LB, Heinze or Evra?

I don't think he'll be fit to be honest. Even if he was then he'll probably just dive constantly then get sent off

Batman wrote:Eboue Targeting United Match
Arsenal's Ivorian right-back, Emmanuel Eboue, could give the club a big boost ahead of the weekend's looming showdown with Premiership pace-setters Manchester United.

Eboue says he hopes to recover from his ankle injury in time for the crunch visit of the Red Devils.

The pacy defender's injury originally flared up before Christmas - and recurred during the Gunners' 3-1 FA Cup Third Round victory over Liverpool on 6 January.

"I've been injured since the Portsmouth game and when I trained I still felt it a bit," Eboue told the club's website.

"But I hope to be back for Manchester United. I really, really want to play."

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Who should Man Utd play at LB, Heinze or Evra?

Even if he is fit I doubt that he would start the match. I think arsene is seriously pissed off with his diving and feigning injury and would like to punish him. We know arsene isn't a saint when it comes to simulation considering he never reprimanded pires/reyes but is the case of eboue I think it’s different. Firstly he does it so obviously and regularly that is just embarrassing. Secondly, it’s almost ok for an attacking player to dive and not get the decision but for a defender its just leaves the team dangerously exposed, which can be seen in the Arsenal v spurs game last year.

I don’t mind Eboue playing in the match as long as he cuts out his antics and is fully fit. If he’s only half fit I’d rather see Hoyte playing even against Cronaldo. Hoyte does have the pace to keep up with if not the positioning (which eboue doesn’t have either).

who do you think will replace Gallas and Gilberto in the starting line-up?

Batman wrote:who do you think will replace Gallas and Gilberto in the starting line-up?

flamini and djorou.

cant see arsenal losing this one.

will be a arsenal win or a draw.

Flamini to replace Gilberto I think , they have been without Gallas for some time.

A guess:

--------------Lehmann--------------

Hoyte-----Toure---Djourou----clichy

Hleb-------Cesc---Flamini----Rosicky

----------RVP------Henry----------

Rosicky wrote:

Batman wrote:who do you think will replace Gallas and Gilberto in the starting line-up?

flamini and djorou.

cant see arsenal losing this one.

will be a arsenal win or a draw.

I'm slightly concerned actually. Manyoo have been getting better at set pieces and considering they play with traditional wingers. I can see them getting lots of corners plus some free kicks from a Crinaldo special. Also, other than the last game Rooney always seems to play well against us. I can see him scoring another wonder goal as he did for Everton. Other than that I think we will cope with their attacks.

There seems to be a problem with our attacking being able to dominate a game. For some reason Henry and robin just haven’t clicked yet, maybe it’s because Henry’s just come back and robin just has to readapt.
I’m expecting a big game for rosicky, he seems like the sought of play who thrives on big open games. Actually, I’ll predict that if the we, rosicky will be MOTM. I also expect lil’cesc and helb to have solid games and help carry flamini.

Rio: Adebayor is top gun

Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand has pinpointed Emmanuel Adebayor as Arsenal's danger-man ahead of Sunday's crunch clash between the two sides.

The Togolese striker scored the only goal of the game as The Gunners won 1-0 at Old Trafford in September and, according to Ferdinand, is the player who has caused league leaders United the most concern so far this season.

With fit-again captain Thierry Henry and Dutch international Robin van Persie operating in tandem against Blackburn, Adebayor was restricted to a substitute's role despite having scored three goals in his previous four outings.

Now Ferdinand has revealed that The Red Devils would be relieved to see the former Monaco man left on the sidelines again by Arsene Wenger.

"I would say he [Adebayor] is the toughest to be honest," said Ferdinand in The Sun.

"I think Adebayor is the player who has given us the most problems this season, with his movement and skill.

"Arsenal controlled the game against us and he was exceptional."

Sir Alex Ferguson and his old rival Wenger lock horns at Emirates Stadium on Sunday, with the game live on Sky Sports 1 at 4pm

Batman wrote: Arsenal v Man Utd - 21/01/2007, Kick-off: 1600 GMT

Referee: G Poll

Another good game ruined by card happy ref. Rooney sent off in 26th minute. RVP good goal deemed off side.

@ DD

Poll has a 'good' relation with Rooney ... still i worry that the game will be 'sorted' out by one controversial incident..

Adebayor>Henry

My team (will not happen):


------------------mad Jens-------------------
Eboue------Kolo------Phil-------------Clichy
------Hleb--------Cesc-----Rosicky---------
RVP------------------------------------Henry
--------------------Ade-----------------------

bench: Aluminium, Hoyte, Denilson, Flamster, Bapster.

jonathan de guzman wrote:My team (will not happen):


------------------mad Jens-------------------
Eboue------Kolo------Phil-------------Clichy
------Hleb--------Cesc-----Rosicky---------
RVP------------------------------------Henry
--------------------Ade-----------------------

bench: Aluminium, Hoyte, Denilson, Flamster, Bapster.

beat weak in defensive midfield, especially as rooney likes to drop deep

110% wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:My team (will not happen):


------------------mad Jens-------------------
Eboue------Kolo------Phil-------------Clichy
------Hleb--------Cesc-----Rosicky---------
RVP------------------------------------Henry
--------------------Ade-----------------------

bench: Aluminium, Hoyte, Denilson, Flamster, Bapster.

beat weak in defensive midfield, especially as rooney likes to drop deep

More worried about that Portuguese youngster.

Anyway we should make the Mancsw worry about us, in tsead of worrying about the Mancs. That's why I'm so happy Wenger seems to have moved away from [spits on the ground] 4-5-1. Arsenal's team is too good to play reactive football. Let's take the (our) game to our opponent.

@guz
More importantly because Arsenal wouldn't get away playing at home like they did against Liverpool.

The way I see it its all on Ronaldo, Scholes and Larsson to shine. Neutralise them and you'd be alright. Despite their defense & goallie, Manchester United have the uncanny ability to leak a goal a match, even against the weaker opponents.
And Rooney will choke again - he's saving his A-game for their following match against Watford at home.

Agooner wrote:Rio: Adebayor is top gun

Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand has pinpointed Emmanuel Adebayor as Arsenal's danger-man ahead of Sunday's crunch clash between the two sides.

The Togolese striker scored the only goal of the game as The Gunners won 1-0 at Old Trafford in September and, according to Ferdinand, is the player who has caused league leaders United the most concern so far this season.

With fit-again captain Thierry Henry and Dutch international Robin van Persie operating in tandem against Blackburn, Adebayor was restricted to a substitute's role despite having scored three goals in his previous four outings.

Now Ferdinand has revealed that The Red Devils would be relieved to see the former Monaco man left on the sidelines again by Arsene Wenger.

"I would say he [Adebayor] is the toughest to be honest," said Ferdinand in The Sun.

"I think Adebayor is the player who has given us the most problems this season, with his movement and skill.

"Arsenal controlled the game against us and he was exceptional."

Sir Alex Ferguson and his old rival Wenger lock horns at Emirates Stadium on Sunday, with the game live on Sky Sports 1 at 4pm

Rio's actually being very honest here. He's getting bored of consistently putting the French LongStocking Diva in his pocket

DD wrote:@guz
More importantly because Arsenal wouldn't get away playing at home like they did against Liverpool.

The way I see it its all on Ronaldo, Scholes and Larsson to shine. Neutralise them and you'd be alright. Despite their defense & goallie, Manchester United have the uncanny ability to leak a goal a match, even against the weaker opponents.
And Rooney will choke again - he's saving his A-game for their following match against Watford at home.

saha will start not larsson

TeamSpirit wrote:

Agooner wrote:Rio: Adebayor is top gun

Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand has pinpointed Emmanuel Adebayor as Arsenal's danger-man ahead of Sunday's crunch clash between the two sides.

The Togolese striker scored the only goal of the game as The Gunners won 1-0 at Old Trafford in September and, according to Ferdinand, is the player who has caused league leaders United the most concern so far this season.

With fit-again captain Thierry Henry and Dutch international Robin van Persie operating in tandem against Blackburn, Adebayor was restricted to a substitute's role despite having scored three goals in his previous four outings.

Now Ferdinand has revealed that The Red Devils would be relieved to see the former Monaco man left on the sidelines again by Arsene Wenger.

"I would say he [Adebayor] is the toughest to be honest," said Ferdinand in The Sun.

"I think Adebayor is the player who has given us the most problems this season, with his movement and skill.

"Arsenal controlled the game against us and he was exceptional."

Sir Alex Ferguson and his old rival Wenger lock horns at Emirates Stadium on Sunday, with the game live on Sky Sports 1 at 4pm

Rio's actually being very honest here. He's getting bored of consistently putting the French LongStocking Diva in his pocket

Who is coincidentally the player most likely to be soaped up by Adebayor in the showers.

Well now that Pires Has gone...

Fabregas cant dance .. well not compared to Adebayor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7nuF8I2gGU

Not enough hype about this match in the media for my liking

L r d wrote:Not enough hype about this match in the media for my liking

The media don't get too excited about foregone conclusions

Will Man Utd be the first team to beat Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium?

The result of the Liverpool and Chelsea game will play a big part in the way Man Utd approach the Arsenal game.

the main thing Man Utd have to worry about is being hit on the counter attack. i don't think Arsenal will control the game in midfield because they will play 4-4-2 and not 4-5-1.

Both teams are very dangerous on the count attack. We should control the game if flamini is in the midfield

L r d wrote:Both teams are very dangerous on the count attack. We should control the game if flamini is in the midfield

Flamini is actually a pretty decent player in big games, just ask Liverpool

jonathan de guzman wrote:My team (will not happen):


------------------mad Jens-------------------
Eboue------Kolo------Phil-------------Clichy
------Hleb--------Cesc-----Rosicky---------
RVP------------------------------------Henry
--------------------Ade-----------------------

bench: Aluminium, Hoyte, Denilson, Flamster, Bapster.

exactly the team I'd like wenger to play.

@110%

No that midfield isn't weak defensively, atleast as good as the carrick-scholes combo imo.

Tweedle wrote:

L r d wrote:Both teams are very dangerous on the count attack. We should control the game if flamini is in the midfield

Flamini is actually a pretty decent player in big games, just ask Liverpool

SAF was at the Liverpool game. what i noticed from that game was that Liverpool had alot of the ball but did nothing with it, Arsenal would get men behind the ball and break up there attack.

Man Utd need Rooney and Giggs to be on form this game. i hope for a 2-1 win for Man Utd.

I hope eboue plays- think he'll have ronaldo in his pocket again, he's our only RB capable of doing that.