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    Post by Luis Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:32 pm

    Liverpool Vs Chelsea

    One of the biggest rivalrys in English football these days, the teams hate each other to be honest, I don't even think the managers like each other, sure they can shake hands for the camera but I think the fact that Mourinho never shook Benitez's hand in the last meeting shows their relationship is not as rosy as it seems.

    Where did this rivalry start? obviously when Chelsea came into the Roman regime they were always going to be rivals with Liverpool for the top 4 places, but even before that a match at the bridge left a lot of Liverpool fans fuming, the last match of the 02/03 season when Liverpool were away to Chelsea, the winner claimed the final Champions league spot, despite Liverpool's early lead through Hyypia, Chelsea went on to win 2-1 which left Liverpool in a uefa cup place and Chelsea then got taken over by Abromavich shortly after.

    But it was the 2004/2005 season that really sparked off the rivalry between the clubs, in the Premiership Liverpool felt cheated at Anfield when a clear penalty was not awarded to the home side, as the ball was crossed into the penalty area, Tiago clearly handballed it away from goal, Mike Riley put his whistle to his mouth but did not blow, Liverpool fans were outraged, the players couldn't believe it, why didn't Riley blow? perhaps he was scared of the Chelsea backlash? who knows? it cost Liverpool as Joe Cole went on to get he winner in a match that left the feeling between the two clubs even worse.

    Then the rivalry came to Cardiff for the carling cup final of that year in which Liverpool took the early lead again, only to lose it late on when Gerrard scored an unfortunate own goal to let Chelsea back into it, Mourinho didn't help the cause by shushing the Liverpool fans, later going on to claim he was 'shushing the English press', ye right jose, he was sent off but was the happier manager by the end as Chelsea went on to win 3-2.

    Liverpool finally got their own back in one of the greatest games in Liverpool's history, after battling through the champions league against Olympiacos, Leverkusen and Juventus, it was Chelsea who came to Anfield once again attempting to really anger the Anfield faithful, the atmosphere was argueably the best in Liverpools history, the Chelsea players probably didn't know what had hit them, Liverpool took the lead (despite what Mourinho says) through a contraversial Garcia goal, did it cross the line? In my opinion yes it did, it proved to be the winning goal and Liverpool went on to win the cup that year, Mourinho has never been able to accept that defeat and it created even more hatread between the clubs, if Liverpool fans felt cheated in the home premiership game with Chelsea that season, the Chelsea fans felt 10 times worse at the end of that tie.

    in the 2005/2006 season it was Chelsea who got the better of Liverpool in the league, after humiliating them 4-1 at Anfield and then at the bridge controversy struck, it was Chelsea who won the game 2-0 but the match was marred by the sending off of Pepe Reina, after apprantly 'pushing' Robben in the face, the Dutchman rolled around like he had been shot, Reina was then sent off, replays showed Reina had merely flicked Robben, it was an act that has made him one of the most hated Chelsea players in Liverpool along with Didier Drogba...

    But Liverpool did enjoy some success last season against Chelsea, in the champions league they managed to finish ahead of them in their group after drawing twice in the competition, but it was in the Fa cup where Liverpool really got some pride back against their rivals, in the semi finals the two teams met at Old Trafford, where Liverpool outclassed Chelsea in a 2-1 win, they then of course went on to win the cup itself.

    At the start of this season Liverpool claimed a bit of silverware before the premiership had even got under way, in a 2-1 win against Chelsea in the community shield, although it wouldn't of mattered a great deal to Mourinho it is always nice to get a victory over your rivals.

    But it was Chelsea who once again won the battle in the Premiership after a 1-0 victory at the bridge, a stunning Drogba strike.

    Throw in the whole 'Gerrard to Chelsea' sagas and you've got yourself one hell of a rivalry.

    which brings us nicely to this weekends game.

    2 Chelsea 51
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    Prediciton Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea


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    Post by Parks lives Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:34 pm

    Wasn't it more to do with Lampard cleaning out Alonso?
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    Post by COTR Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:17 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Wasn't it more to do with Lampard cleaning out Alonso?
    from liverpool's side it was a mixture of playing them so many times, mourinho's daft comments, getting denied about 20 clear cut penalties (most of them from chelsea's extra goalkeepers) and flumps taking out alonso


    from chelsea's side it is probably purely down to mourinho's frustration at us knocking them out of cups and losing the biggest game of jose's reign so far..jose then responded as he normally does by blabbering in the press and rafa responded which has stoked both sides of the fire.
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    Post by Tom Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:07 pm

    We'll win. And this isnt the usual "Chelsea-fan pre match confidence". There isnt a hope for Liverpool to win this game, no offence to any liverpool fans, and you're welcome to put it in your sig, but im afraid it wont be anything other than a 2-0 win.

    4-1 at Anfield anyone?
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:09 pm

    we shall see
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    Post by GR Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:46 pm

    Ballack wrote:We'll win. And this isnt the usual "Chelsea-fan pre match confidence". There isnt a hope for Liverpool to win this game, no offence to any liverpool fans, and you're welcome to put it in your sig, but im afraid it wont be anything other than a 2-0 win.

    4-1 at Anfield anyone?


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    You're not as good as Arsenal
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    Post by Saintsar Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:54 pm

    Arsenal needed the referee's help for half of their goals...
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    Post by GR Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:58 pm

    Saintsarama wrote:Arsenal needed the referee's help for half of their goals...

    Not in the FA Cup they didnt.... We gifted them all 3 goals that game.......
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    Post by Saintsar Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:05 pm

    Alright, in that game it was three dreadful bits of defending that created the chances for Arsenal.
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    Post by Romford Pele Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:07 pm

    Give credit where its due ffs!
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    Post by Tom Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:09 pm

    Grim wrote:
    Ballack wrote:We'll win. And this isnt the usual "Chelsea-fan pre match confidence". There isnt a hope for Liverpool to win this game, no offence to any liverpool fans, and you're welcome to put it in your sig, but im afraid it wont be anything other than a 2-0 win.

    4-1 at Anfield anyone?


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    I dont mind laughing about heavy losses at Anfield.. lol!
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    Post by Luis Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:10 pm

    i'd love it if we won you know Ballack, you will never hear the end of it if we do
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    Post by GR Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:25 pm

    Ballack wrote:
    Grim wrote:
    Ballack wrote:We'll win. And this isnt the usual "Chelsea-fan pre match confidence". There isnt a hope for Liverpool to win this game, no offence to any liverpool fans, and you're welcome to put it in your sig, but im afraid it wont be anything other than a 2-0 win.

    4-1 at Anfield anyone?


    1-4 Laughing

    You're not as good as Arsenal
    I dont mind laughing about heavy losses at Anfield.. lol!

    i dont mind laughing at your pathetic trophy cabinet Laughing

    After all - what matters is winning trophies - no? ok
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    Post by Tom Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:32 pm

    Grim wrote:
    Ballack wrote:
    Grim wrote:
    Ballack wrote:We'll win. And this isnt the usual "Chelsea-fan pre match confidence". There isnt a hope for Liverpool to win this game, no offence to any liverpool fans, and you're welcome to put it in your sig, but im afraid it wont be anything other than a 2-0 win.

    4-1 at Anfield anyone?


    1-4 Laughing

    You're not as good as Arsenal
    I dont mind laughing about heavy losses at Anfield.. lol!

    i dont mind laughing at your pathetic trophy cabinet Laughing

    After all - what matters is winning trophies - no? ok
    Crying or Very sad Dammit, i knew the trophy jibe would come out. But i can reply with this beast. Hows that Premiership trophy holding out? OH WAIT A FLYING FUCK, YOU HAVEN'T GOT ONE


    i know the CL jibe will come now
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    Post by L r d Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:33 pm

    18:5

    OMG.
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    Post by GR Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:40 pm

    Ballack wrote:
    Grim wrote:
    Ballack wrote:
    Grim wrote:
    Ballack wrote:We'll win. And this isnt the usual "Chelsea-fan pre match confidence". There isnt a hope for Liverpool to win this game, no offence to any liverpool fans, and you're welcome to put it in your sig, but im afraid it wont be anything other than a 2-0 win.

    4-1 at Anfield anyone?


    1-4 Laughing

    You're not as good as Arsenal
    I dont mind laughing about heavy losses at Anfield.. lol!

    i dont mind laughing at your pathetic trophy cabinet Laughing

    After all - what matters is winning trophies - no? ok
    Crying or Very sad Dammit, i knew the trophy jibe would come out. But i can reply with this beast. Hows that Premiership trophy holding out? OH WAIT A FLYING FUCK, YOU HAVEN'T GOT ONE


    i know the CL jibe will come now


    Nah - just wait till the Sheikhs take over..... we'll show you how its done without having to buy a new squad every year ok Laughing
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:43 pm

    I find it irritating when, after two bad defeats, pundits start talking about how vulnerable Liverpool are, and how their season has gone to ruins, etc etc. The honest truth is, we are more than capable of beating a full strength Chelsea team, let alone a weakened one. A Chelsea victory is not inevitable, and our current league form is excellent. We’re going to win, and Tom is going to cry.
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    Post by Batman Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:15 pm

    Liverpools home record is really good, one of the best in the league, but you have not yet played Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd at home in the Prem this season and when you did play Arsenal at home in the Fa Cup and League Cup, you lost. This is why people have doubts about the Liverpool team.

    If you beat Chelsea then you will be 5 points behind them, game on for 2nd place.

    Liverpool have lost to Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd away, if Liverpool can't beat these teams at home then what will your views be on your team?
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    Post by Luis Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:16 pm

    Batman wrote:Liverpools home record is really good, one of the best in the league, but you have not yet played Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd at home in the Prem this season and when you did play Arsenal at home in the Fa Cup and League Cup, you lost. This is why people have doubts about the Liverpool team.

    If you beat Chelsea then you will be 5 points behind them, game on for 2nd place.

    Liverpool have lost to Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd away, if Liverpool can't beat these teams at home then what will your views be on your team?

    we can only play who's up against us though, we cant exactly kick all the other teams out the league bar Chelsea, Arsenal and United
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    Post by L r d Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:20 pm

    Luis wrote:
    Batman wrote:Liverpools home record is really good, one of the best in the league, but you have not yet played Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd at home in the Prem this season and when you did play Arsenal at home in the Fa Cup and League Cup, you lost. This is why people have doubts about the Liverpool team.

    If you beat Chelsea then you will be 5 points behind them, game on for 2nd place.

    Liverpool have lost to Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd away, if Liverpool can't beat these teams at home then what will your views be on your team?

    we can only play who's up against us though, we cant exactly kick all the other teams out the league bar Chelsea, Arsenal and United

    Should the pool and united fans unite this week luis Surprised
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    Post by Batman Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:21 pm

    liverpool are expected to beat the other teams anyway.

    before you could win the league by just beating the smaller teams, the games between the big sides didn't decide the league.

    now you have to beat everyone, get around 90 points to win the league.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:23 pm

    pool 1(0) - 1(0) chelsea
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    Post by S4P Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:26 pm

    Obispo wrote:18:5

    OMG.

    16:0

    OMG

    (16 seasons: 0 Domestic league titles)
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    Post by L r d Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:27 pm

    Agooner wrote:pool 1(0) - 1(0) chelsea

    You should thank god everyday that you are not a betting man Biggrin
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    Post by fcb Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:28 pm

    18:2:24:4:3:2:2:11:1:22:2:4:1:2:1:1:5:1

    OMG
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    Post by GR Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:29 pm

    S4P wrote:
    Obispo wrote:18:5

    OMG.

    16:0

    OMG

    (16 seasons: 0 Domestic league titles)


    £ + £ = ££
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    Post by L r d Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:32 pm

    S4P wrote:
    Obispo wrote:18:5

    OMG.

    16:0

    OMG

    (16 seasons: 0 Domestic league titles)

    Bit better than 50.
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    Post by S4P Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:32 pm

    Grim wrote:
    S4P wrote:
    Obispo wrote:18:5

    OMG.

    16:0

    OMG

    (16 seasons: 0 Domestic league titles)


    £ + £ = ££

    We bought an entire squad. You'll be doing the same when the Sheiks takeover and get rid of the garbage in the team (although unlikely. I doubt that Mr Gerrard and co will find themselves out of work).

    I notice that the Liverpool takeover is costing almost 3x the amount Abramovich paid for Chelsea too.
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    Post by L r d Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:34 pm

    Probably because we're not on the verge of liquidation and have actually acheived something of note in the last 50 years Smile
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:34 pm

    Saintsarama wrote:Alright, in that game it was three dreadful bits of defending that created the chances for Arsenal.

    The boy just won't concede...

    I'm supporting Chelsea for this one.

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