Inter-Analysed!

If you wanna know why Inter are doing so well this season, just look at the players who have scored 4 goals or more for Inter this season:

Rank - Player- Goals __ Minutes/Goal
1 Crespo 11 __ 159
2 Ibra 10 __ 216
3 Cruz 6 __ 105
4 Adriano 5 __ 254
4 Burdisso 5 __ 318
4 Materazzi 5 __ 432
4 Stankovic 5 __ 475
8 Cambiasso 4 __ 292
8 Vieira 4 __ 564

(Just for comparison, anything below 200 is considered very good for a striker!)

Crespo and Cruz have a fantastic time per goal record... but thats not it... when you combine the times per minute for every Inter player, its becomes a goal every 41 minutes!!!

Cambiasso and Burdisso score a goal each in every 3 games!! Materazzi takes about 4-5 games to score a goal, lazy git!

No Figo

Figo is not having a good season by his standards, and has just scored 1 goal in 2000 minutes of play....

Materazzi is 5 times as likely to score as Figo

Target Man wrote:No Figo

it was like Mila last season. Had a brilliant goal scoring record scoring the most out of all teh teams and I think they might have beat the record for the most gaosl by a club in a season! With Inter if there forwards aren't scoring they are garanteed to have someone else scoring therefore there confidence is high because they know the goals will come.

Must say greta statistics for Inter

The reason Inter are doing so well is because all the other top teams in Seri A are suffering from having points deducted/relegation/loosing there best players.

This is so obvious, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that a persistant under achievers only dominante a league when the competiton is eradicated or completely weakened.

Rez wrote:The reason Inter are doing so well is because all the other top teams in Seri A are suffering from having points deducted/relegation/loosing there best players.

This is so obvious, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that a persistant under achievers only dominante a league when the competiton is eradicated or completely weakened.

Im with this as well.

they are scared of juve, no nasty juve to win it this year so inter spread their wings and soar to the title with weeks to spare. Better watch out next season becuase them nasty zebras will be back

Rez wrote:The reason Inter are doing so well is because all the other top teams in Seri A are suffering from having points deducted/relegation/loosing there best players.

This is so obvious, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that a persistant under achievers only dominante a league when the competiton is eradicated or completely weakened.

What dismissive rubbish that does what is currently the best team in Europe absolutely no justice.

What players did Milan and Roma lose exactly? You can say that Milan had points reducted but how does that explain them now being 30 points behind Inter when they were initially deducted just 8?

Serie A is exactly the same as the Premiership was until 3 seasons ago - just two teams capable of winning the title. Don't recall such a pathetic, dismissive attitude towards the Premiership when it was Manchester United and Arsenal going through the same old each season.

You should also think twice the use of the term underacheivers when this Inter side bounced back from two defeats in their opening Champions League games. Inter of old wouldn't have managed that.

When Arsenal go unbeaten in a premiership that contains a United team with no midfield and a Chelsea side managed by Claudio "the Cretin" Ranieri, it's an amazing acheivement.

Inter equal the European record for successive wins in a Serie A that's no weaker than the Premiership Circa 2003/2004 and it's because there's no competition

Spare me the myopia.

I know you've got the minutes per goal stat there blue, but do you have the games played stat?

Will add value to whether they started the game or came on a sub (Cruz I suspect).

Its impressive though, I'd like to see a comparison of all the top sides in Europe to see if there are many other teams that come close or even beat that.

Obispo wrote:

Rez wrote:The reason Inter are doing so well is because all the other top teams in Seri A are suffering from having points deducted/relegation/loosing there best players.

This is so obvious, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that a persistant under achievers only dominante a league when the competiton is eradicated or completely weakened.

What dismissive rubbish that does what is currently the best team in Europe absolutely no justice.

What players did Milan and Roma lose exactly? .

Since when were roma really challenging for titles? I was talking to a guy i used to talk to a lot today he now lives in Italy. And really his view was like rez. Milan lost Sheva huge player never replaced him, plus could not add to there team and left with a load of old guys around, plus lost lots of points, mentally if you are way behind you do not have the same drive etc to win the next game to stay top if you were in a title race. Plus Inter got a few key players from the juve situation.

kaka totti apart, take away the inter squad and seria a is so weak this year and thats just the reality.

i do belive that they wouldnt be where they are now without juve being sent to the second division but it is more because they got ibrahimovic and viera.i do think that the deduction mean more then it seems. not so much it was a major hurdle in it self but because they had to overcome and when they did they got a couple of bad results and it seemed too much. allthough in the end their biggest problems have been in attack where they failed to do anything in the summer despite having money from the sheva deal.
in the end nobody can say that inter isnt among the best teams if not the best team in europe.

I think Serie A is weaker but at the same time, this Inter squad is one of the best teams there has been for a long time.

In terms of depth its the best in europe, in terms of the first team squad then its definately in the top 5

Top post!

What people forget is teams like Roma and Fiorentina strengthened during the summer, they along with Milan can compete for a CL spot in any league in Europe. With Palermo and Lazio not too far behind. And smaller teams like Atalanta, Empoli, Catania, and Torino are giving these star studded teams a run for their money.

Ok so lets consider that teams like Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina were "de-motivated" coz of point deductions... were they still demotivated when they played Inter?? Anyone who thinks that does not know much about Italian foootball.

Infact some of my mates who support Roma consider their current team better than Capello's Roma which won the scudetto a few years ago... thats how well Roma have been playing under Spaletti.

To a large extent, the loss of Juve has been made uo by the re-emergence of Fiorentina and Roma under Prandelli and Spaletti. Even when Juve come back next season, I expect these two teams to be as competitive as Juve, if not better.

I bet that anyone who agrees with Rez here has not seen more than 3 games of Inter in Serie A this season. Yeah, its that obvious! Its like me saying that Cheivo is better than River Plate this season... I haven't seen River Plate play, so my opinion is worthless.

Obispo wrote:

Rez wrote:The reason Inter are doing so well is because all the other top teams in Seri A are suffering from having points deducted/relegation/loosing there best players.

This is so obvious, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that a persistant under achievers only dominante a league when the competiton is eradicated or completely weakened.

What dismissive rubbish that does what is currently the best team in Europe absolutely no justice.

What players did Milan and Roma lose exactly? You can say that Milan had points reducted but how does that explain them now being 30 points behind Inter when they were initially deducted just 8?

Serie A is exactly the same as the Premiership was until 3 seasons ago - just two teams capable of winning the title. Don't recall such a pathetic, dismissive attitude towards the Premiership when it was Manchester United and Arsenal going through the same old each season.

You should also think twice the use of the term underacheivers when this Inter side bounced back from two defeats in their opening Champions League games. Inter of old wouldn't have managed that.

When Arsenal go unbeaten in a premiership that contains a United team with no midfield and a Chelsea side managed by Claudio "the Cretin" Ranieri, it's an amazing acheivement.

Inter equal the European record for successive wins in a Serie A that's no weaker than the Premiership Circa 2003/2004 and it's because there's no competition

Spare me the myopia.

L r d wrote:

Obispo wrote:

Rez wrote:The reason Inter are doing so well is because all the other top teams in Seri A are suffering from having points deducted/relegation/loosing there best players.

This is so obvious, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that a persistant under achievers only dominante a league when the competiton is eradicated or completely weakened.

What dismissive rubbish that does what is currently the best team in Europe absolutely no justice.

What players did Milan and Roma lose exactly? .

Since when were roma really challenging for titles? I was talking to a guy i used to talk to a lot today he now lives in Italy. And really his view was like rez. Milan lost Sheva huge player never replaced him, plus could not add to there team and left with a load of old guys around, plus lost lots of points, mentally if you are way behind you do not have the same drive etc to win the next game to stay top if you were in a title race. Plus Inter got a few key players from the juve situation.

kaka totti apart, take away the inter squad and seria a is so weak this year and thats just the reality.

Doni has been wonderful for Atalanta.

Palermo have some class players, as do Fiorentina and Lazio

Udinese are 9th with De Sanctis, Natali, Zapata, Muntari, Obodo, Iaquinta, Di Natale.

Parma have a decent squad and are in the relegation zone.

Fiorentina starting XI

----------------Frey
Ujfalusi - Dainelli - Gamberini - Pasqual
Liverani - Donadel - Gobbi - Jorgensen
----------Toni -- Mutu

Fiorentina Bench: Lobont, Kroldrup, Potenza, Blasi, Montolivo, Santana, Poulucci, Reginaldo, Pazzini

I am not sure whether you can appreciate this squad, LRD... IMO it almost matches Milan's in talent terms. And IMO it would be among the top 4 in EPL or La Liga.

Watch out, Fiorentina will be Serie A contenders next season... and if they make the CL inspite of the 15 point deduction (its possible, they are just 7 points off the 4th spot), they will be serious challengers in europe too.

L r d wrote:

kaka totti apart, take away the inter squad and seria a is so weak this year and thats just the reality.

bluenine wrote:Fiorentina starting XI

----------------Frey
Ujfalusi - Dainelli - Gamberini - Pasqual
Liverani - Donadel - Gobbi - Jorgensen
----------Toni -- Mutu

Fiorentina Bench: Lobont, Kroldrup, Potenza, Blasi, Montolivo, Santana, Poulucci, Reginaldo, Pazzini

I am not sure whether you can appreciate this squad, LRD... IMO it almost matches Milan's in talent terms. And IMO it would be among the top 4 in EPL or La Liga.

Watch out, Fiorentina will be Serie A contenders next season... and if they make the CL inspite of the 15 point deduction (its possible, they are just 7 points off the 4th spot), they will be serious challengers in europe too.

L r d wrote:

kaka totti apart, take away the inter squad and seria a is so weak this year and thats just the reality.

fuck Viola look strong

Stefan Kuntz wrote:

L r d wrote:

Obispo wrote:

Rez wrote:The reason Inter are doing so well is because all the other top teams in Seri A are suffering from having points deducted/relegation/loosing there best players.

This is so obvious, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that a persistant under achievers only dominante a league when the competiton is eradicated or completely weakened.

What dismissive rubbish that does what is currently the best team in Europe absolutely no justice.

What players did Milan and Roma lose exactly? .

Since when were roma really challenging for titles? I was talking to a guy i used to talk to a lot today he now lives in Italy. And really his view was like rez. Milan lost Sheva huge player never replaced him, plus could not add to there team and left with a load of old guys around, plus lost lots of points, mentally if you are way behind you do not have the same drive etc to win the next game to stay top if you were in a title race. Plus Inter got a few key players from the juve situation.

kaka totti apart, take away the inter squad and seria a is so weak this year and thats just the reality.

Doni has been wonderful for Atalanta.

Palermo have some class players, as do Fiorentina and Lazio

Udinese are 9th with De Sanctis, Natali, Zapata, Muntari, Obodo, Iaquinta, Di Natale.

Parma have a decent squad and are in the relegation zone.

Not really impressed to tell you the truth.

bluenine wrote:Fiorentina starting XI

----------------Frey
Ujfalusi - Dainelli - Gamberini - Pasqual
Liverani - Donadel - Gobbi - Jorgensen
----------Toni -- Mutu

Fiorentina Bench: Lobont, Kroldrup, Potenza, Blasi, Montolivo, Santana, Poulucci, Reginaldo, Pazzini

I am not sure whether you can appreciate this squad, LRD... IMO it almost matches Milan's in talent terms. And IMO it would be among the top 4 in EPL or La Liga.
Watch out, Fiorentina will be Serie A contenders next season... and if they make the CL inspite of the 15 point deduction (its possible, they are just 7 points off the 4th spot), they will be serious challengers in europe too.

Can't agree with that - they're not better than any of the Prem top 4 but its a good squad none the less.

bluenine wrote:Fiorentina starting XI

----------------Frey
Ujfalusi - Dainelli - Gamberini - Pasqual
Liverani - Donadel - Gobbi - Jorgensen
----------Toni -- Mutu

Fiorentina Bench: Lobont, Kroldrup, Potenza, Blasi, Montolivo, Santana, Poulucci, Reginaldo, Pazzini

I am not sure whether you can appreciate this squad, LRD... IMO it almost matches Milan's in talent terms. And IMO it would be among the top 4 in EPL or La Liga.

Watch out, Fiorentina will be Serie A contenders next season... and if they make the CL inspite of the 15 point deduction (its possible, they are just 7 points off the 4th spot), they will be serious challengers in europe too.

L r d wrote:

kaka totti apart, take away the inter squad and seria a is so weak this year and thats just the reality.

Well imo it would not be. You think that team is better than arsenal liverpool chelsea or man utd come on it's not even close. same goes for la liga. But you know if i was an inter fan i would see it the same way the one year you do great it's not seen as all that due to the circumstances.

I don't know what you mean by appreciate the team, not going to say it's excellent when it isnt, you can try tell me a few average players are better than they are, or a few good players are great, and my knowledge of them is not good so i wouldn't know, but thats just nonsense. Who's doing well Palermo Lazio? Rangers a team i know about came up against the worst italian team i have ever seen and they were in the top 6 at the time.
Really in that fiorentina team is toni the real quality player. You going to try and tell me any other play is near world class, because it simply is not true.

Maybe not, but maybe yes.... doesn't matter....

but any team where the likes of Potenza, Montolivo, Blasi, Reginaldo, and Pazzani can't get a starting spot.... hmmm... some of them are quite young... with a shrewd guy like Prandelli at helm, no one knows what this squad can achieve....

Anyways, my point was that there is more to Serie A than just Inter, kaka, and totti apparently!

Stefan Kuntz wrote:

bluenine wrote:Fiorentina starting XI

----------------Frey
Ujfalusi - Dainelli - Gamberini - Pasqual
Liverani - Donadel - Gobbi - Jorgensen
----------Toni -- Mutu

Fiorentina Bench: Lobont, Kroldrup, Potenza, Blasi, Montolivo, Santana, Poulucci, Reginaldo, Pazzini

I am not sure whether you can appreciate this squad, LRD... IMO it almost matches Milan's in talent terms. And IMO it would be among the top 4 in EPL or La Liga.
Watch out, Fiorentina will be Serie A contenders next season... and if they make the CL inspite of the 15 point deduction (its possible, they are just 7 points off the 4th spot), they will be serious challengers in europe too.

Can't agree with that - they're not better than any of the Prem top 4 but its a good squad none the less.

Ok, so I will not even try and explain each players quality.... I guess you have to see them to realise their class... I mean, how would you react if someone says that "apart for Gerard, don't try and pass of any other liverpool player as near world class, coz its simply not true" (sorry Obispo, couldn't resist - its just an innocent hypothetical example! )

Let me just compare this squad with other Italian squads that you may be more familiar with... IMO these guys can match Milan. Infact, its no surprise that they have done better than Milan this season, inspite of starting with a bigger "psychological demotivating" factor (if there is any such thing) - a 15 point deduction.

And I think they are definately better than last season's Inter... perhaps that would put things in perspective.

Anyone who watches Serie A will appreciate how strong Fiorentina have become with the additions of Reginaldo, Liverani, Mutu, Potenza, Blasi, and Gobbi this season!!! So much for the all-teams-are-weaker-than-before theory!

L r d wrote:

bluenine wrote:Fiorentina starting XI

----------------Frey
Ujfalusi - Dainelli - Gamberini - Pasqual
Liverani - Donadel - Gobbi - Jorgensen
----------Toni -- Mutu

Fiorentina Bench: Lobont, Kroldrup, Potenza, Blasi, Montolivo, Santana, Poulucci, Reginaldo, Pazzini

I am not sure whether you can appreciate this squad, LRD... IMO it almost matches Milan's in talent terms. And IMO it would be among the top 4 in EPL or La Liga.

Watch out, Fiorentina will be Serie A contenders next season... and if they make the CL inspite of the 15 point deduction (its possible, they are just 7 points off the 4th spot), they will be serious challengers in europe too.

L r d wrote:

kaka totti apart, take away the inter squad and seria a is so weak this year and thats just the reality.

Well imo it would not be. You think that team is better than arsenal liverpool chelsea or man utd come on it's not even close. same goes for la liga. But you know if i was an inter fan i would see it the same way the one year you do great it's not seen as all that due to the circumstances.

I don't know what you mean by appreciate the team, not going to say it's excellent when it isnt, you can try tell me a few average players are better than they are, or a few good players are great, and my knowledge of them is not good so i wouldn't know, but thats just nonsense. Who's doing well Palermo Lazio? Rangers a team i know about came up against the worst italian team i have ever seen and they were in the top 6 at the time.
Really in that fiorentina team is toni the real quality player. You going to try and tell me any other play is near world class, because it simply is not true.

Not at all mate. You're 100% right...they've been good on the pre season tournaments, but started playing like shit when the competitive matches arrive as usual...but you made your point very well anyway

bluenine wrote:

Its like me saying that Cheivo is better than River Plate this season... I haven't seen River Plate play, so my opinion is worthless.

Obispo wrote:

Rez wrote:The reason Inter are doing so well is because all the other top teams in Seri A are suffering from having points deducted/relegation/loosing there best players.

This is so obvious, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that a persistant under achievers only dominante a league when the competiton is eradicated or completely weakened.

What dismissive rubbish that does what is currently the best team in Europe absolutely no justice.

What players did Milan and Roma lose exactly? You can say that Milan had points reducted but how does that explain them now being 30 points behind Inter when they were initially deducted just 8?

Serie A is exactly the same as the Premiership was until 3 seasons ago - just two teams capable of winning the title. Don't recall such a pathetic, dismissive attitude towards the Premiership when it was Manchester United and Arsenal going through the same old each season.

You should also think twice the use of the term underacheivers when this Inter side bounced back from two defeats in their opening Champions League games. Inter of old wouldn't have managed that.

When Arsenal go unbeaten in a premiership that contains a United team with no midfield and a Chelsea side managed by Claudio "the Cretin" Ranieri, it's an amazing acheivement.

Inter equal the European record for successive wins in a Serie A that's no weaker than the Premiership Circa 2003/2004 and it's because there's no competition

Spare me the myopia.

I should ve used Boca as an example

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:Not at all mate. You're 100% right...they've been good on the pre season tournaments, but started playing like shit when the competitive matches arrive as usual...but you made your point very well anyway

bluenine wrote:

Its like me saying that Cheivo is better than River Plate this season... I haven't seen River Plate play, so my opinion is worthless.

Obispo wrote:

Rez wrote:The reason Inter are doing so well is because all the other top teams in Seri A are suffering from having points deducted/relegation/loosing there best players.

This is so obvious, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that a persistant under achievers only dominante a league when the competiton is eradicated or completely weakened.

What dismissive rubbish that does what is currently the best team in Europe absolutely no justice.

What players did Milan and Roma lose exactly? You can say that Milan had points reducted but how does that explain them now being 30 points behind Inter when they were initially deducted just 8?

Serie A is exactly the same as the Premiership was until 3 seasons ago - just two teams capable of winning the title. Don't recall such a pathetic, dismissive attitude towards the Premiership when it was Manchester United and Arsenal going through the same old each season.

You should also think twice the use of the term underacheivers when this Inter side bounced back from two defeats in their opening Champions League games. Inter of old wouldn't have managed that.

When Arsenal go unbeaten in a premiership that contains a United team with no midfield and a Chelsea side managed by Claudio "the Cretin" Ranieri, it's an amazing acheivement.

Inter equal the European record for successive wins in a Serie A that's no weaker than the Premiership Circa 2003/2004 and it's because there's no competition

Spare me the myopia.

For my money Inter would have won the league this year, even with Milan and Juve challenging. They have kept the coach and had a period of stability for a few years. Milan not only lost sheva who used to save them when they were playing shit (eg Lyon in CL), but have an ageing defence, juve's best players are also ageing and past it like del piero and nedved.

The difference would have been that Inter would not have Ibra (but would have kept martins) and Vieira and would not be so far ahead, but would still be ahead.

It is true though that they league is weaker in general this year, but I think they'll win it again next year and show they are the top team.

I didnt say Inter are a good side, I think they have a great squad of players, probably the strongest squad in the world. But I dont agree with anyone who thinks that this Inter side is as good as Blunine makes out.

Is it not true that Inter have consistently underachieved, despite outspending there rivals and are only finally running away with the league, now Juve have been relegated and sold two of there best players to Inter, Milan sold there star striker to Chelsea and Inters rivals for 3rd place got points deducted.

Seri A isnt very strong this year, Inter domminating the league doesnt mean much to me. Last year when Juve were around and Milan had Sheva where were Inter? If Chelsea got relegated and we got Essien and Drogba or Robben. Arsenal sold Henry or Liverpool sold Gerrard to say Barca and they got points deducted and only then did united completely own the league it wouldnt be that much of an achievement.

Isnt it strange how inter lost 2 games in the CL against decent sides (Barca and Chelsea lost less despite playing against superior oppossition) but are breaking all the Seri A records.

I like Inter, I used to always cheer them on because they were never as good as AC Milan, Juve, Roma and Lazio (at the time) and they had Ronaldo and Recoba. If Inter had dominated the league when Seri A was at its peak (when Roma,Lazio, Fiorentina, AC and Juve were all awesome) then I would have been heaping the sort of praise that you do.

@OBi

regarding Arsenals invincibles, they were overhyped, they lost more games than united did, when they won the treble got less points than Chelsea did when they won the league and they didnt retain the league either.

Rez wrote:I didnt say Inter are a good side, I think they have a great squad of players, probably the strongest squad in the world. But I dont agree with anyone who thinks that this Inter side is as good as Blunine makes out.

But that is exactly how good I make them out to be, dude

Rez wrote:Seri A isnt very strong this year, Inter domminating the league doesnt mean much to me. Last year when Juve were around and Milan had Sheva where were Inter? If Chelsea got relegated and we got Essien and Drogba or Robben. Arsenal sold Henry or Liverpool sold Gerrard to say Barca and they got points deducted and only then did united completely own the league it wouldnt be that much of an achievement.

Its not as weak as you think. Its more like if Chelsea got relegated, And say Arsenal sold henry... then ManU, Liverpool, Newcastle, Spurs all buy 4-5 good players, including some from Chelsea... Arsenal buy a coupla big players as well... then Leeds (Torino) get promoted, and they set up a decent team too... etc etc. Yeah, it will still be a bit weaker than last season, but not as weak as you think...

Rez wrote:Isnt it strange how inter lost 2 games in the CL against decent sides (Barca and Chelsea lost less despite playing against superior oppossition) but are breaking all the Seri A records.

No, its not strange at all... we got 3 red cards in those 2 games. If we play any Serie A game with 10 or 9 men, we will probably lose those too.

bluenine wrote:If we play any Serie A game with 10 or 9 men, we will probably lose those too.

*grinds teeth*

Obispo wrote:

bluenine wrote:If we play any Serie A game with 10 or 9 men, we will probably lose those too.

*grinds teeth*

Rez

You're talking bollocks if you say that the invincible arsenal team was overhyped.

Sure Chelsea got more points, but Arsenal managed to go 38 games both home and away without being beaten. far better an achievement

Tweedle wrote:Rez

You're talking bollocks if you say that the invincible arsenal team was overhyped.

Sure Chelsea got more points, but Arsenal managed to go 38 games both home and away without being beaten. far better an achievement

Ruuds last minute pen goes in, you dont even make halfway, little things like this for me is why having more points is a better achievement