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L r d wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Rez

You're talking bollocks if you say that the invincible arsenal team was overhyped.

Sure Chelsea got more points, but Arsenal managed to go 38 games both home and away without being beaten. far better an achievement

Ruuds last minute pen goes in, you dont even make halfway, little things like this for me is why having more points is a better achievement

Tweedle wrote:

L r d wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Rez

You're talking bollocks if you say that the invincible arsenal team was overhyped.

Sure Chelsea got more points, but Arsenal managed to go 38 games both home and away without being beaten. far better an achievement

Ruuds last minute pen goes in, you dont even make halfway, little things like this for me is why having more points is a better achievement

How? its exactly the same argeument applied?

you could say that for tonnes of Man Utd and Chelsea games if you wanted and they would have got less points.

Ridiculous arguement

L r d wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Rez

You're talking bollocks if you say that the invincible arsenal team was overhyped.

Sure Chelsea got more points, but Arsenal managed to go 38 games both home and away without being beaten. far better an achievement

Ruuds last minute pen goes in, you dont even make halfway, little things like this for me is why having more points is a better achievement

Tweedle wrote:And Utd didn't get lucky against Bayern?

Rez wrote:I would say we had some good luck against Bayern, but we still beat them (in normal time and no penalties) without two of are best players.

I wouldnt have it any other way, that was the best 3 minutes of football/tv i have ever seen, no one will ever recreate that kind of drama, from the gutter to the stars in 3 minutes, thats entertainment.

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:I disagree about Serie A being a weak leaue. Over here they show not only serie a games but also some of serie b and I hae to tell you there are some good teams and playrs in there. Just and example:Diego Milito (has 14 goals this season so far playing for Zaragoza and behind Dinho (15) and Kanoute (16) only, and is above players like Van Nistelooy and Villa) was playing for Genoa in Serie B until recently. Now he's amonsgt the top scorers of La Liga. That's how strong teams that aren't exactly the big ones in europe are in Italy. Say what you want but to me Italian football is still top of the class.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Inter have been nothing short of brilliant lately, but to say that they haven’t been helped by penalizations and a very bizarre Serie A is to be disingenuous.

With that said, I think you will find it a tall order bluenine and Cosmico to convince people on here of Serie A’s quality even when Juve and Napoli come back up. I think I read every English editorial before the World Cup in Germany. There was a broad consensus: Italy will fail not only because they deserve to (match-fixing scandal) but also because Serie A is not up to scratch.

But writing off Italy is not only an English hobby (though they do it with some aplomb).

Tweedle wrote:Rez

You're talking bollocks if you say that the invincible arsenal team was overhyped.

Sure Chelsea got more points, but Arsenal managed to go 38 games both home and away without being beaten. far better an achievement

Rez wrote:@Forza

Seri A, is still good but it used to be awesome and thats what people (the English) are pretty much saying.

In the 90's early 2000 Seri A was light years ahead of the prem, you could name the whole team of the top 5 clubs, all the top players wanted to go there and only washed up former great players came to the prem.

Even you have to admit is no longer the case, but many Italian posters (Bluenine) still think it still is

bluenine wrote:
What I have said is that Inter are among the top 3 teams in europe, probably the best.

Parks lives wrote:

bluenine wrote:
What I have said is that Inter are among the top 3 teams in europe, probably the best.

I don't think you can say that Bluenine until you've proven it in the Champions league.

I'd still have Barca and Chelsea first and second.

Resilient Il Fenomeno wrote:^ And third?

Saintsarama wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Inter have been nothing short of brilliant lately, but to say that they haven’t been helped by penalizations and a very bizarre Serie A is to be disingenuous.

With that said, I think you will find it a tall order bluenine and Cosmico to convince people on here of Serie A’s quality even when Juve and Napoli come back up. I think I read every English editorial before the World Cup in Germany. There was a broad consensus: Italy will fail not only because they deserve to (match-fixing scandal) but also because Serie A is not up to scratch.

But writing off Italy is not only an English hobby (though they do it with some aplomb).

Bear in mind that most English editorials also predicted that England could win the World Cup, whereas most fans who knew their stuff were saying we would go out in the Q/F on penalties.

bluenine wrote:I think I can. UEFA ranks us in top 3 too

So how can Chelsea say it???

Parks lives wrote:

bluenine wrote:
What I have said is that Inter are among the top 3 teams in europe, probably the best.

I don't think you can say that Bluenine until you've proven it in the Champions league.

I'd still have Barca and Chelsea first and second.

Parks lives wrote:

Resilient Il Fenomeno wrote:^ And third?

Difficult to say, I wouldn't say ourselves cause we need to prove it in Europe as well.

Be between Milan, Man United, Lyon and Inter though you can have pro's and con's for all 4 teams.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Saintsarama wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Inter have been nothing short of brilliant lately, but to say that they haven’t been helped by penalizations and a very bizarre Serie A is to be disingenuous.

With that said, I think you will find it a tall order bluenine and Cosmico to convince people on here of Serie A’s quality even when Juve and Napoli come back up. I think I read every English editorial before the World Cup in Germany. There was a broad consensus: Italy will fail not only because they deserve to (match-fixing scandal) but also because Serie A is not up to scratch.

But writing off Italy is not only an English hobby (though they do it with some aplomb).

Bear in mind that most English editorials also predicted that England could win the World Cup, whereas most fans who knew their stuff were saying we would go out in the Q/F on penalties.

Yeah, quite right; English punditry, like any other, can be way off. However, it was the dismissive, almost callous attitude that was really shocking. The Pippo Inzaghi case sums it up. He is not well liked outside the boot, but many grudgingly admire his scoring record. I’ve heard journalists even diminish that.

@Rez

I don’t think Serie A is the best in Europe, just one of the top three. Yes the Prem has caught up—it is wealthier, better run, and has excellent players.

For what it’s worth: the Arsenal that went undefeated was awesome, even if in Europe it was woeful.

bluenine wrote:Spot on as usual, Forza.

English Punditry, it can be way off sometimes.

Sometimes?

Resilient Il Fenomeno wrote:

bluenine wrote:Spot on as usual, Forza.

English Punditry, it can be way off sometimes.

Sometimes?

Rez wrote:It came out wrong, I meant to say Bluenine, that you make out that Seri A is still strong and equal to La Liga and the Prem, when it clearly isnt and for that reason i am dont agree with the way you laud Inter, as the only time Inter have looked awesome is when Seri A is at its weakest.



I have no English bias, I am not one of those idiots who believe English players are the best (alot of them are overhyped by the media), that england will ever win anything and that the prem is the best league in the world.



I personally dont think the prems that great to watch outside the top 6/7, if united, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, newcastle, Spurs arent playing I dont bother watching it. I dont think any of the leagues are super strong the way Seri A used to be.



I come on the European league board and its always the same Inter and SeriA hype. I used to love watching Seri A and wish the prem was half as good, now when I watch it, I think thank god the prem games are on soon. I guess htere arent many true superstars left in Seri A. I know you will disagree and reel of names of above average players, but they all pale to the true super stars who used to play there.



English media talk rubbish, but all national media are biased towards there own, its the way it works. The average guy hasnt heard of half the foriegners, but they have heard of the English players, so they hype them up to get them intersted.