Lille v Man. United

lies

Tweedle wrote:lies

argumentation

Napoléon wrote:

Tweedle wrote:lies

argumentation

Look at this video, you will see that no any lille players are walking off to the tunnel. Makoun, Audel, Sylva and others players stayed around the referee and don't tried to walk off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhbcD7izVsI

So Tweed, who is lying ?

At the end of the day Lille cannot attempt to use rules which are valid in the French league in European competition anymore then English teams can whine because so many fouls are given in the CL (which aren't in the Prem).

They must be charged and fined at the least. All I see this is as an excuse for their ignorance.

Owen Thomas wrote:

They must be charged and fined at the least. All I see this is as an excuse for their ignorance.

Agree they ignored that the rule was different in european cup.

Owen Thomas wrote:At the end of the day Lille cannot attempt to use rules which are valid in the French league in European competition anymore then English teams can whine because so many fouls are given in the CL (which aren't in the Prem).

exact, the best example is the foul on Vidic

Napoléon wrote:

Owen Thomas wrote:

They must be charged and fined at the least. All I see this is as an excuse for their ignorance.

Agree they ignored that the rule was different in european cup.

Owen Thomas wrote:At the end of the day Lille cannot attempt to use rules which are valid in the French league in European competition anymore then English teams can whine because so many fouls are given in the CL (which aren't in the Prem).

exact, the best example is the foul on Vidic

Exactly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16L1FsAhbAE&NR

Napoléon wrote:That's an amalgam but that's the english I suppose

Giggs is Welsh...

Target Man wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16L1FsAhbAE&NR

Even his youtube video full of fucks ups looks better then anyone elses.

I didn't make a comment. Ronaldo had one great chance to score but missed, and as you can see from the clip he was a bit wasteful, but i didn't watch the whole game.

Uefa has rejected Lille's protest against Ryan Giggs' goal from a quickly-taken free-kick in the UEFA Champions League on Tuesday.

The French club argued that referee Eric Braamhaar had made a 'technical error' in allowing Giggs to take the free-kick without blowing his whistle.

Lille had hoped to get the original result annulled and have the game replayed.

Uefa's Control and Disciplinary Body met to discuss Lille's complaint on Friday, but found no proof of an error by the official.

Lille have until midnight on Monday to appeal the decision.

"Having examined the official referee's report, the television evidence at hand as well as the Laws of the Game, the Uefa Control and Disciplinary Body decided to reject the protest, as there was no proof of a technical error," a statement on Uefa's website read.

"As a result, the body declared that the goal was perfectly valid."

Giggs' goal turned out to be the winner in the first-leg of the first knockout round match in France and led to fury among Lille's players and officials.

Uefa has decided to open proceedings against Lille to investigate the actions of their players following the goal.

The statement continued: "Furthermore, the Control and Disciplinary Body decided to instigate proceedings against Lille for the improper behaviour of their players immediately after the goal."

The Control and Disciplinary Body will meet on March 22 to discuss the incident as well as possible safety and security violations by Lille and alleged improper conduct by both sets of fans

Owen Thomas wrote:

Target Man wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16L1FsAhbAE&NR

Even his youtube video full of fucks ups looks better then anyone elses.

Also interesting to note that he clearly completes three passes in the opening 30 seconds of the video, then wins a corner, then beats a man in the box who actually fouls him but he doesn't go down. After a couple of fuck ups he plays a lovely one-two with Evra, then there's the chance he spurned but at least he had the pace and awareness to make the run properly (another one where he could have gone down for a likely penalty if he'd been in the mood).

My point being that even in a game where he played as craply as he did against Lille he still had the best chance of the game, could have had two penalties if he'd played for them, had a couple of other good moments and made Lille have to keep tracking him and tackling him.

Lille have spoken of their disappointment at failing in a protest to Uefa over Ryan Giggs' winning goal in their UEFA Champions League tie.

The French club claimed the referee had made a technical error in allowing the Manchester United midfielder to take a quick free-kick without first blowing his whistle.

Uefa rejected the complaint on Friday and also announced they would be looking into the Lille players' actions following the goal.

Lille will make a decision on whether to appeal Uefa's ruling on Monday but have let their dissatisfaction at the verdict known.

"We regret that Uefa do not wish to analyse the matter," a statement on the club's website read.

"The feeling of injustice is shared by all of those who love football.

"This decision can be appealed within three days. We will review our options and our chances with our legal advisers and we will make a decision on Monday."

Wow, a correct and efficient decision from UEFA?


Friends in high places, I suppose.

@Saintsarama
is the MBE extension to your name to take ridicule the Pool website, where even in the team line up they have 'Gerrard MBE'?

No, I actually have an MBE. I know you won't believe that, but...

Has a situation liked this ever resulted in a goal being anulled post-match??

Very desperate move by Lille.. maybe we should ask to have Pool's first goal anulled since Valdés slipped and carried the ball into his own goal. So in a way it was our goal and not Pool's..

I'll have a word with the Palace (taps side of nose).

I appreciate that..

Well here's a shock.

"Lille have confirmed they will continue their appeal against Uefa's decision to allow Manchester United's goal to stand in their stormy Champions League clash.

The French club lodged a complaint over Ryan Giggs's quickly taken free-kick but it was rejected by Uefa.

The European governing body will consider their appeal on Friday.

Uefa has also charged Lille with the improper behaviour of their players, who appeared to contemplate leaving the pitch in protest at United's goal.

Interview: Man Utd boss Sir Alex Ferguson

A Uefa statement said: "Lille had until midnight [on Monday] to file an appeal after the Control and Disciplinary Body rejected the Ligue 1 side's claim that there had been a technical mistake by the referee in allowing Ryan Giggs's match-winning free-kick to be taken without having blown his whistle.

"The Control and Disciplinary Body vetoed the protest on the grounds that there was no proof of a technical error, making the solitary strike of last Tuesday's first knockout round first-leg tie in Lens perfectly valid.

"Uefa's Appeals Body will consider the Lille appeal on Friday."

A statement released on Lille's website said: "President Michel Seydoux and the board of Lille have decided to appeal against the decision made on Friday by the European authority.

"The true question is to determine how the Man Utd players came to take so quickly the free-kick that led to the goal, as they showed signs of a different intention.

"Following these principles, Lille have therefore taken the decision to go through with a fight that seems correct to them."

Giggs's strike was the only goal of the first leg of the last 16 tie, with the second leg taking place on Wednesday 7 March.

On an incident-filled evening, United fans were involved in a crush scare in the Stade Felix-Bollaert and Uefa's control and disciplinary body will discuss the safety and security issues on 22 March."
Source: www.bbc.co.uk

If the French ever aren't whining about something, worry.

Any news on whether UEFA will be punishing Lille for their antics/croed problems?

UEFA throw out protest and charge Lille

UEFA disciplinary chiefs have thrown out a complaint by Lille about the validity of Manchester United's winning goal and have charged the French club's players with improper conduct.

Lille players threatened to walk off the pitch after Ryan Giggs scored from a quickly-taken free-kick in their Champions League match in Lens on Tuesday.

The French club had claimed the referee should have blown his whistle beforehand, and asked for the game to be replayed.

UEFA said in a statement: 'Having examined the official referee's report, the television evidence at hand as well as the laws of the game, the UEFA control and disciplinary body decided to reject the protest, as there was no proof of a technical error.

'As a result, the body declared that the goal was perfectly valid.

'Furthermore, the control and disciplinary body decided to instigate proceedings against Lille for the improper behaviour of their players immediately after the goal. '

Lille have the right of appeal and the charge is likely to be dealt with by the same disciplinary hearing that will handle possible breaches of security and safety regulations by the club and allegations of improper conduct by both Lille and United supporters.

United believe a tragedy was only narrowly averted after supporters became crushed into a section of the Stade Felix-Bollaert in Lens.

Lille have pointed the finger at United, claiming their early distribution of tickets allowed high-quality fakes to be produced, while Damien Vanoise, the head of security at the stadium, has accused United fans of sparking the problems by 'violent behaviour'.

United will answer the allegations in a report to UEFA but are furious Lille are trying to blame them for their own shortcomings.

It is understood United will tell the UEFA the poor quality of the tickets provided by the French club allowed forgeries to be made easily, and will provide a dossier of evidence from fans about the incidents in the stadium.

This is getting uglier by the day isnt is.

UEFA are being far too lenient. Lille deserve to be thrown out of Europe

Lille are bad losers, they should shut the f#k up instead of whining. Things are not likely to change now. They should accept what happened and concentrate on the next game in 2 weeks time.

Uefa rejects Lille appeal again

Lille's appeal against Ryan Giggs' controversial goal in the UEFA Champions League has again been rejected.

The French club were furious that the Manchester United winger's late free-kick in last week's first leg was allowed to stand.

They lodged an appeal with Uefa's Control and Disciplinary Body, claiming referee Eric Braamhaar had made a 'technical error'.

Uefa turned down that first appeal last Friday, but Lille continued their protest by appealing that decision.

However, the appeal has once more met with a rebuttal, with Uefa's Appeals Body ratifying the validity of Giggs' goal.

A statement on Uefa's website read: "The Appeals Body supported the original decision that there was no proof of a technical error, and validated the result in Lens, a 1-0 victory to the English club."

Lille could now take their protest to the Court of Arbitration for Sport within three days of receiving notification of the latest verdict.

The second leg of the last 16 tie is due to take place at Old Trafford next Wednesday.

Let's talk about the second leg now.

What's your prediction ?

I bet on a draw 1-1 (so ManU will go through)

- Early goal by Keita.
- Then a lille player sent off after two yellow cards because of playing two free-kick before the referee whistle.
- Finally, a last minute goal by Giggs whose took the advantage of a lille player injury to score.
- Of course, Lille will protest and french people will continue to be treated like arrogant people.


No seriously, I hope it will be a good game between two good teams and in a fair-play atmosphere.

I think we may win this won at home but it'll be very tight.