When Did the Times Become Bullshit Merchants?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/newcastle/article1454733.ece

So much exaggeration it's unreal!!!


"Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president, criticised the club for failing to accept an offer of about £2 million."

£1m you cunt, where have you got £2m from?!


"The club have been receiving the maximum £50,000 a week available via the FA’s insurance policy, but that is less than half of Owen’s £120,000-a-week salary"

Fucking hell, and that's nearly 40k more than he actually gets paid!


Has this paper always been shit?!

You shouldn't get anything. What nonsense.

No it is usually very sound in its details.

Don't see how they could have got his wage details wrong though.

Didn't Sheppard want 10 million compensation at one stage.

Cesc wrote:No it is usually very sound in its details.

Don't see how they could have got his wage details wrong though.

Didn't Sheppard want 10 million compensation at one stage.

So much speculation around his wages. The figure of 102k came from a football rich list which had Owen earning over £5m a year, so some newspaper divided that number by 52 and came up with 102k. The real number is between 80 and 90k and the rest comes from endorsements etc.

And i don't believe the £10m number came from Freddy's mouth, he hasn't mentioned a number to the press as far as i'm aware. FIFA say it's £6m though.

@ Frodo

FIFA make millions from borrowing expensive players, for free, to play in their crappy internationals, IMO it's only right that they pay something. Same goes for the FA, but i think they've done their part by contributing towards his wages.

If i borrowed your phone and accidently broke it during a night out with Ashley Cole, you would expect me to pay for it. Would you not?

Kimbo wrote:If i borrowed your phone and accidently broke it during a night out with Ashley Cole, you would expect me to pay for it. Would you not?

Why would you be on a night out with Ashley Cole?

(trying to earn your million bucks maybe? )

Kimbo wrote:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/newcastle/article1454733.ece

So much exaggeration it's unreal!!!


"Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president, criticised the club for failing to accept an offer of about £2 million."

£1m you cunt, where have you got £2m from?!


"The club have been receiving the maximum £50,000 a week available via the FA’s insurance policy, but that is less than half of Owen’s £120,000-a-week salary"

Fucking hell, and that's 1 nearly 40k more than 2 he actually gets paid!


Has this paper always been shit?!

1 whats the 40k?
2 who is he and how much can he make per week?

40k = £40,000

he = Michael Owen - an English striker. He makes about £80,000

Blame this man...

Tweedle wrote:40k = £40,000

he = Michael Owen - an English striker. He makes about £80,000

thanks,Tweeds, i missed 120 out.

Sorry Kimbo, but Fifa wouldn't pay Sporting shit all if Ricardo was injured during an international tourney.

Newcastle shouldn't get anything either, especially considering you fucks are rich and we're in so deep we're not sure there's a bottom...

yeah they shouldnt get any compo as where would it end??? Its not like Owen had to be frog-marched to the world cup, refusing to play until Sven got Nancy to hold a sawn-off against his head! Accidents happen, if this carries on can we expect to see premiership chairmen phoning up injury lawyers direct everytime one of their players chips a fingernail or gets a nasty bruise on his arm??

As for the inaccurate prose who did it?? most newspapers take work from indepentant journos and all papers are guilty of printing dreadful work. Many a time ive seen articles in a national paper that are criminally inaccurate: a lot of the hacks in the uk know FA about football outside of this island and simply make it up as they go along. I swear some of them get their info from championship manager!!!!

If we weren't entitled to some money we wouldn't have got any. England threw a half fit(if that) Owen straight into the world cup and he got buggered, losing us millions. Our season was effectively over when he went down, it reduced our chances of a top 6 finish hugely.

He could have told them he wasnt up to it.

borocooper wrote:He could have told them he wasnt up to it.

But that's out of the clubs hands, a club can't stop a player from going to the world cup.

Make Owen pay.

borocooper wrote:Make Owen pay.

Legally he isn't responsible, he was under the care of the FA and FIFA so they are liable - hence why they're paying us.

ih8gerrard wrote: I swear some of them get their info from championship manager!!!!

Kimbo wrote:If we weren't entitled to some money we wouldn't have got any. England threw a half fit(if that) Owen straight into the world cup and he got buggered, losing us millions. Our season was effectively over when he went down, it reduced our chances of a top 6 finish hugely.

Your medical staff should've declared him unfit for activity. Why should you be compensated for your negligence?

Luso wrote:

Kimbo wrote:If we weren't entitled to some money we wouldn't have got any. England threw a half fit(if that) Owen straight into the world cup and he got buggered, losing us millions. Our season was effectively over when he went down, it reduced our chances of a top 6 finish hugely.

Your medical staff should've declared him unfit for activity. Why should you be compensated for your negligence?

Sadly, it's the British way. We're a country of negligent, incompetent people, all trying to sue each other and blame each other for our own failings. That's what happens when Christianity collapses.

You guys are Christians? Well, kinda I guess.

*Don't sue me.

Luso wrote:

Kimbo wrote:If we weren't entitled to some money we wouldn't have got any. England threw a half fit(if that) Owen straight into the world cup and he got buggered, losing us millions. Our season was effectively over when he went down, it reduced our chances of a top 6 finish hugely.

Your medical staff should've declared him unfit for activity. Why should you be compensated for your negligence?

They didn't Owen wasn't playing for us because we didn't consider him fit enough, England decided they would play him because it doesn't make a difference to them in the long run if he breaks down.

It makes no difference whether Newcastle declare him fit or not, Newcastle had zero choice in him going.

Luso wrote:You guys are Christians? Well, kinda I guess.

*Don't sue me.

No, I mean we used to be Christians, so we have the psychological bonds of mutual responsibility, but Christianity has collapsed, so the mutual responsibility has become the inverse of what it was before, i.e. mutual blame.

It's all in Nietzsche, pretty much.

Lennon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Milner

Did they formally state he wasn't fit to play? It's always a grey issue, but there is some say.

He could've said himself he wasn't fit in any case. If Newcastle asked him to, he should've.

I guess you guys can use it to bring in the new signings Mikey O is now pleading for.

*Still don't think you should get a cent. Again, if Ricardo had gone down we'd be out our #1 keeper and have nothing to show for it.

Luso wrote:
*Still don't think you should get a cent. Again, if Ricardo had gone down we'd be out our #1 keeper and have nothing to show for it.

If you made your case to FIFA then you would. I don't see why Newcastle would be a special case, we're not a G14 club.

Saintsarama MBE wrote:

Luso wrote:You guys are Christians? Well, kinda I guess.

*Don't sue me.

No, I mean we used to be Christians, so we have the psychological bonds of mutual responsibility, but Christianity has collapsed, so the mutual responsibility has become the inverse of what it was before, i.e. mutual blame.

It's all in Nietzsche, pretty much.

Yes, but I'm questioning your Christianity to begin with...

Being Catholic, it's just a dig at the Anglicans I'm affraid.



Still, we agree they shouldn't get shit.

Zack_thfc wrote:Lennon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Milner

Yes yes yes.

Robinson>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given

Defoe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Owen and Martins

Zokora>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Parker

Dawson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taylor

etc etc etc, we all know you've got a top class squad, you've got a top class manager, and you're a massive club.

Kimbo wrote:

Luso wrote:
*Still don't think you should get a cent. Again, if Ricardo had gone down we'd be out our #1 keeper and have nothing to show for it.

If you made your case to FIFA then you would. I don't see why Newcastle would be a special case, we're not a G14 club.

But you're British...

Porto wouldn't get shit either and they're orignal G14.

I know you guys think FIFA/UEFA hate you, and they might, but you're loaded and they know they need to keep rich clubs/leagues happy.

It's nothing against Newcastle really, I actually don't mind your club, but I still don't think it's right.

Luso wrote:
Yes, but I'm questioning your Christianity to begin with...

Being Catholic, it's just a dig at the Anglicans I'm affraid.

Believe me, I prefer the Catholics to the Anglicans, and I'm broadly agnostic.

Still, we agree they shouldn't get shit.

Well, I can only assume that they have insurance on their own players since it's widely available, so I don't even know why they're asking. Unless they're so incompetent as a business that they'd spend 17 million up front and 80 thousand a week on an asset without covering themselves in any way.

Saying that, it is Newcastle United. They aren't the most sensible bunch of people, that board.

Owen only joined to play at the WC in the first team, so he was never going to say no - and if Newcastle tried to stop him they'd screw up their relationship with him and end up selling him at a big loss. Its tough on them, and the Times article is crap, but they shouldn't be compensated. The situation is more a result of Owens' individual case than of FIFA rules forcing their hand.