UEFA coefficiency ranking

Bit Dutch but you should be able to make out who they are. Eredivisie however, is still shockingly behind Romania.

UEFA Coëfficiënten-ranglijst

9/3/2007 11:00

UEFA-coëfficiëntenranglijst (bijgewerkt t/m 9 maart 2007)


Ranking Seizoen 06/07 Clubs 06/07
1. Spanje 71,891 14,000 5/7
2. Engeland 65,665 13,750 5/8
3. Italië 64,517 10,357 2/7
4. Frankrijk 53,656 10,000 2/8
5. Duitsland 42,792 7,928 3/7
6. Portugal 42,082 7,416 2/6
7. Roemenië 40,165 11,333 0/3
8. Nederland 38,807 7,642 2/7
9. Rusland 36,125 6,625 0/4
10. Schotland 30,500 6,750 1/4
11. Oekraïne 29,475 6,500 1/4
12. België 29,075 4,700 0/5
13. Tsjechië 26,825 5,750 0/4
14. Turkije 26,641 6,100 0/5
15. Griekenland 25,497 4,666 0/6
16. Bulgarije 24,582 5,125 0/4
17. Zwitserland 23,850 4,100 0/5
18. Noorwegen 19,725 2,000 0/5
19. Israël 19,208 6,000 1/4
20. Servië/Mont. 18,958 2,125 0/4
21. Denemarken 18,575 6,125 0/4
22. Oostenrijk 18,500 1,500 0/5
23. Polen 17,000 2,625 0/4
24. Hongarije 14,165 1,000 0/3
25. Slowakije 10,832 2,000 0/3
26. Kroatië 10,708 1,000 0/3
27. Cyprus 10,582 1,750 0/4
28. Zweden 10,541 1,125 0/4
29. Slovenië 9,915 1,250 0/4
30. Bosnië-H. 9,665 1,833 0/3
31. Letland 8,664 2,166 0/3
32. Litouwen 7,332 1,833 0/3
33. Finland 7,331 1,333 0/3
34. Moldavië 7,166 1,500 0/3
35. Ierland 6,498 2,833 0/3
36. Georgië 6,164 1,166 0/3
37. Liechtenstein 6,000 2,000 0/1
38. Macedonië 5,831 1,166 0/3
39. IJsland 4,999 1,000 0/3
40. Wit-Rusland 4,665 1,000 0/3
41. Albanië 3,832 0,833 0/3
42. Estland 3,665 1,500 0/3
43. Armenië 3,498 0,500 0/3
44. Azerbeidzjan 3,166 1,333 0/3
45. Kazachstan 2,332 0,666 0/3
46. N-Ierland 2,165 0,166 0/3
47. Wales 1,998 0,666 0/3
48. Faerøer 1,665 0,500 0/3
49. Luxemburg 1,665 0,166 0/3
50. Malta 1,665 0,166 0/3
51. Andorra 0,000 0,000 0/1
52. San Marino 0,000 0,000 0/1

Look how claose France and Italy are - Italy could drop out the top 3 if they're not careful

So there is a good chance England could take over Spain by the end of the season?

Tweedle wrote:Look how claose France and Italy are - Italy could drop out the top 3 if they're not careful

there is quite a bit of distance between them...

Rosicky wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Look how claose France and Italy are - Italy could drop out the top 3 if they're not careful

:scratch: there is quite a bit of distance between them...

I got confused - what is the 2nd number?

Sarcasm or did you read it wrongly?

3. Italië 64,517 10,357 2/7
4. Frankrijk 53,656 10,000 2/8

Germany on the otherhand could lose out to Portugal uf Bayern fail and the portuguese teams do well in UEFA cup.
England could also theoretically lose out to Italy.
Those are very close.

This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

Tweedle wrote:

Rosicky wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Look how claose France and Italy are - Italy could drop out the top 3 if they're not careful

there is quite a bit of distance between them...

I got confused - what is the 2nd number?

That's how many points they got this season so far. The points from the other end of the spectrum are deleted while these are added.

How have Spain won more points than England this season?

They have 1 team left in the CL and 4 left in the UEFA, England have 3 left in the CL and 2 left in the UEFA. Surely England are more impressive there.

Yeah, but you do realise that thats the only reason EPL is above Serie A... purely based on CL, Serie A is higher than EPL!!!

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

England got decent teams in Uefa cup too Tottenham and Newcastle , Germany got Bremen and Leverkusen , any of these teams could win it so getting points for their nations.

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

Welcome to our world . --> Romania and Russia in particular benefit enormously.

Eredivisie heads also shot themsleves in the foot by introducing the playoff system after the regular season. Team sthat have performed to the very end are too tired to continue competeing at a high level, and the midtable teams go through to Europe (UEFA), starting the downward spiral again.

They'll abolish it after the next season.

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

It's perfect for it's cause allowing smaller nations to get the same perks as the others. It also ensures different teams are in Europe each year potentially which after all is what all these small nations want.

Besides, it could be looked at the other way. Imagine if the Premiership really was top heavy, and the teams below Arsenal were utterly atrocious and never progressed in Europe we wouldn't justify our current allocation.

Kimbo wrote:How have Spain won more points than England this season?

They have 1 team left in the CL and 4 left in the UEFA, England have 3 left in the CL and 2 left in the UEFA. Surely England are more impressive there.

Champions League teams like drawing/losing. Our UEFA teams don't, however they are a minority.

Kimbo wrote:How have Spain won more points than England this season?

They have 1 team left in the CL and 4 left in the UEFA, England have 3 left in the CL and 2 left in the UEFA. Surely England are more impressive there.

Spain have 5/7 (5 from 7 initial teams in Europe) left, that means they get 71% of the points earned to their name.

England has has 5/8 = 63% of the earned points.

Its better and more benificiary according to the UEFA coeeficient ranking system to have less, but better teams (of a standard quality). Romania had at a point 3/3 so everytime all three won they got 3 whole points.
Netherlands had 7/7, so if there were 3 wins 1 draw and 3 losses Eredivisie got 10/7 = 1.429 points. You cannot alter the divider . So if shit teams go to Europe you suffer.
Now Netherlands has 2/7 so everytime, we win we get max 6/7=0.857.
This week we got 2 losses = 0 points.

bluenine wrote:Yeah, but you do realise that thats the only reason EPL is above Serie A... purely based on CL, Serie A is higher than EPL!!!

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

?

Milan, Roma

Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool

Im Kind Of A Big Deal wrote:

bluenine wrote:Yeah, but you do realise that thats the only reason EPL is above Serie A... purely based on CL, Serie A is higher than EPL!!!

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

?

Milan, Roma

Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool

I think he's saying over the past 5 years Seria A teams have done better in the CL, i can't be arsed to check if that's right. You do it!

Italy had a lot of crap teams in Europe....

Chievo had a nightmare start and went out
Livorno went through a rough patch...
Parma are shit..
Palermo beat us, and then decided they wanted to go for the CL..

The only shock was Inter...

Kimbo wrote:

Im Kind Of A Big Deal wrote:

bluenine wrote:Yeah, but you do realise that thats the only reason EPL is above Serie A... purely based on CL, Serie A is higher than EPL!!!

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

?

Milan, Roma

Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool

I think he's saying over the past 5 years Seria A teams have done better in the CL, i can't be arsed to check if that's right. You do it!

Cant be arsed either. Think thats not true though. Milan apart, none of the other Italian sides have been much cop over the last 5 years.

That All Italian final in 2003 (?) I suppose was impressive. Game itself was shit though

bluenine wrote:Yeah, but you do realise that thats the only reason EPL is above Serie A... purely based on CL, Serie A is higher than EPL!!!

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

welll clearly not...

Its true, whether you want to believe it or not.

Inter have been very consistant too... they are 3rd among the clubs in uefa ranking over the past 5 seasons, and all due to their performance in the CL (tho we will probably drop down after this season). Milan are first. Juve are in the top 10 as well.

The problem with Italian teams is that no one takes UEFA cup seriously. They field second teams and lose out.

Im Kind Of A Big Deal wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Im Kind Of A Big Deal wrote:

bluenine wrote:Yeah, but you do realise that thats the only reason EPL is above Serie A... purely based on CL, Serie A is higher than EPL!!!

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

?

Milan, Roma

Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool

I think he's saying over the past 5 years Seria A teams have done better in the CL, i can't be arsed to check if that's right. You do it!

Cant be arsed either. Think thats not true though. Milan apart, none of the other Italian sides have been much cop over the last 5 years.

That All Italian final in 2003 (?) I suppose was impressive. Game itself was shit though

DD wrote:
Germany on the otherhand could lose out to Portugal uf Bayern fail and the portuguese teams do well in UEFA cup.

You forgot a side that wears green and white kits.

As far as the ranking is concerned, we'll get rid of that horrible 2003 season soon (ranking counts the last five years), and then things will look very different. We'll be much closer to Ligue1 then, provided both leagues continue to perform like they did in the last few years.

But being 4th, 5th or 6th doesn't really matter that much, because they all have the same number of CL spots. Getting back to the top three should be the long term goal, because they have one more.

bluenine wrote:
The problem with Italian teams is that no one takes UEFA cup seriously. They field second teams and lose out.

It's similar for the Bundesliga, because the UEFA Cup has or rather had a bad image (Beckenbauer: "Loser Cup"). But I hope that most clubs finally realise that they are hurting themselves with that attitude.

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

That's true, but even England make still about 43% of all their points in the UEFA Cup.

Tottenham, Blackburn, Newcastle and Middlesbrough: 60.15 points
Chelsea, ManU, Arsenal and Liverpool: 81.15 points

(at least if my calculation is correct )

chrissicross wrote:

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

That's true, but even England make still about 43% of all their points in the UEFA Cup.

Tottenham, Blackburn, Newcastle and Middlesbrough: 60.15 points
Chelsea, ManU, Arsenal and Liverpool: 81.15 points

(at least if my calculation is correct )

It was West Ham instead of Middlesbrough

It really doesn't matter that much, but the indignity of having the Romanian league above you is HUGE. And to think that only a few years ago were higher than Germany.

The way to easily gouge the quality is to see the divider (last number on the right), the higher, the better the league.

Everyone knows that Romainian league is inferiour to the dutch.

Ligue 1 isn't better than the Bundesliga either...

Lucas Neill wrote:

chrissicross wrote:

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

That's true, but even England make still about 43% of all their points in the UEFA Cup.

Tottenham, Blackburn, Newcastle and Middlesbrough: 60.15 points
Chelsea, ManU, Arsenal and Liverpool: 81.15 points

(at least if my calculation is correct )

It was West Ham instead of Middlesbrough

Oh, right. I couldn't even find it at first...West Ham is listed on place 179 with zero points...

chrissicross wrote:
Oh, right. I couldn't even find it at first...West Ham is listed on place 179 with zero points...

That was evil chrissi, pure evil.

You don't even know how much ammunation you have given rival fans with that. Poor Deano

chrissicross wrote:

Lucas Neill wrote:

chrissicross wrote:

Tweedle wrote:This ranking is seriously flawed though in that UEFA cup and CL games receive the same points - so if an average team does well in the UEFA cup in bumps a countries points right up

That's true, but even England make still about 43% of all their points in the UEFA Cup.

Tottenham, Blackburn, Newcastle and Middlesbrough: 60.15 points
Chelsea, ManU, Arsenal and Liverpool: 81.15 points

(at least if my calculation is correct )

It was West Ham instead of Middlesbrough

Oh, right. I couldn't even find it at first...West Ham is listed on place 179 with zero points...

We went out 1st round losing 0-1 and 3-0 to Palermo...we are now bottom of the EPL...so I'm not surprised we are on 0