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    Post by Effenberg Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:23 pm

    Ok, first of all...I don't care if you like the guy or if you hate his guts. This is solely about the decision by Uefa.

    And it is a fucking joke.

    After the Madrid gesture he was on probation. That meant that he couldn't do anything like that again or he would be suspended for a game.

    Now they're saying he violated his probation by getting that ridiculous red card with Diarra. Meaning: He's out for both matches against Milan.

    The problem: This is completely different! It was never once said that he would get the extra-punishment for whatever cards he accumulates in the matches, but only if he repeats that type of behavior towards the fans.

    So, again. If you want to spew anti-Bayern, anti-Dutch or anti-Van Bommel hatred, go somewhere else.

    Somebody has to stop the Uefa. They can't just pull suspensions out of their magic hat. If they want to throw suspensions around they should take a good look at Valencia-Inter. If they wanted to they could probably find enough to suspend 20 players.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:26 pm

    I actually agree with you.

    This really reminds me of the Frings incident at the WC last year. It makes you think, doesn't it? This always seems to happen when playing against an Italian team.
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    Post by Effenberg Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:32 pm

    First they get unrelegated and put back in the CL. And now one of our key players - whose job would've been to help contain Kaka - is suspended for nonsense.

    Some things just make you wonder.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:34 pm

    Hargreaves should be able to deal with Kaka, if he is back to his normal form at least, but this is a huge blow indeed.
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:42 pm

    I refuse to believe it.

    It's *insane* Yikes

    It's "Double-Standards-UEFA" again :

    Feyenoord getting suspended for trouble in France, the same happens with Manchester United : they didn't even *think* about suspending them.

    How about comparing what MVB did with what happened at Inter - Valencia ?!

    If Valencia didn't come from one of the big three leagues they would have been suspended for sure.


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    Post by Ä Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:00 pm

    outrageous

    would never have happened to an EPL/Seria A player

    will Hargreaves be fully fit for the games ?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:02 pm

    What is the UEFA doing on the rioting teams like Valencia, Manchester United, Lille and Inter....?

    Are they get banned as well?
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    Post by DD Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:05 pm

    Grr

    This really pisses me off. There´s something really wrong with these UEFA rulings.

    Nancy-Feyenoord. Feyenoord get banned for something that's absolutely not their fault; in fact they did their best to avoid it. Feyenoord get fine, then UEFA decide to ban them. Nancy, and their authorities are not implyfied and escape consequences.

    Lille-United. Bad stadium control, too many people, false tickets, hooligans etc. Then the police launch tear gas in the stands ---> people nearly die.
    Consequences: NONE. NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE PRESS. UEFA AND PLATINI SWEEP IT UNDER RUG AND PRETEND IT NEVER HAPPENED.

    Marseille-Lyon. Crowd troubles again. French AGAIN! Platini boldly announces that the troublemakers are Dutch. And is going after them. The stadium and the authorities don't have any blame. Some of the trouble makers were Utrecht hooligans, but Utrechjt let Marseille know. Marseille did f*ck all with the information.

    Inter-Valencia. Major brawl. gets completely out of control on the pitch and in the dressing rooms. A miracle the crowd didn't join in.
    Reminded people of Turkey-Switzerland WC06 qualifying rumble: in which Turkey was punished (but not severe enough), and Swiss were angels.


    See a pattern!? Suspect


    For fuck sakes! Grr
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:05 pm

    ottOld Shatterhand wrote:
    will Hargreaves be fully fit for the games ?

    Hargreaves actually played well against us on Sunday, made life pretty hard for Diego.

    It'll be more difficult without Van Bommel for sure, but Bayern are constantly improving, and their first half against us was truly impressive. They have a chance regardless.
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    Post by DD Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:06 pm

    Van Bommel and Bayern should appeal. And win.

    Let Der Kaiser flex his muscles.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:08 pm

    Yes, they should indeed. This is really ridiculous.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:26 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Yes, they should indeed. This is really ridiculous.

    THe Dutch and Germans voted for Johansson so I am afraid they won't listen to us anymore... Sad
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:28 pm

    Ricardo Jol wrote:What is the UEFA doing on the rioting teams like Valencia, Manchester United, Lille and Inter....?

    Are they get banned as well?

    Know what your talking about there Ricardo or trying to be controversial again.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:29 pm

    DD wrote....

    Lille-United. Bad stadium control, too many people, false tickets, hooligans etc. Then the police launch tear gas in the stands ---> people nearly die.
    Consequences: NONE. NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE PRESS. UEFA AND PLATINI SWEEP IT UNDER RUG AND PRETEND IT NEVER HAPPENED.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:32 pm

    Ricardo Jol wrote:
    THe Dutch and Germans voted for Johansson so I am afraid they won't listen to us anymore... Sad

    They better do, the DFB still is the richest and most powerful sports organisation in the world. Wish they used their influence when it really matters though, and when it's justified.
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    Post by DD Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:33 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:What is the UEFA doing on the rioting teams like Valencia, Manchester United, Lille and Inter....?

    Are they get banned as well?

    Know what your talking about there Ricardo or trying to be controversial again.
    I think for United to get a small fine for too many people in the rows, but the brunt of justice should be solely on Lille and no-one else.
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    Post by DD Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:34 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:
    THe Dutch and Germans voted for Johansson so I am afraid they won't listen to us anymore... Sad

    They better do, the DFB still is the richest and most powerful sports organisation in the world. Wish they used their influence when it really matters though, and when it's justified.
    As good a time to apply that power. And fully justified of course.

    This is ridiculous.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:38 pm

    Rummenigge says that they won't accept this sentence, and will appeal.


    http://www.fcbayern.t-com.de/de/aktuell/news/2007/11168.php?fcb_sid=dd3a04f5fcba28c1f234dc7bc624db62
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    Post by Effenberg Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:41 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Rummenigge says that they won't accept this sentence, and will appeal.


    http://www.fcbayern.t-com.de/de/aktuell/news/2007/11168.php?fcb_sid=dd3a04f5fcba28c1f234dc7bc624db62

    Way to go! I don't see how they could uphold this nonsense decision. This is not Guantanamo.
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    Post by DD Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:51 pm

    Effenberg wrote:
    blutgraetsche wrote:Rummenigge says that they won't accept this sentence, and will appeal.


    http://www.fcbayern.t-com.de/de/aktuell/news/2007/11168.php?fcb_sid=dd3a04f5fcba28c1f234dc7bc624db62

    Way to go! I don't see how they could uphold this nonsense decision. This is not Guantanamo.
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    Post by Forza It Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:58 pm

    Effenberg wrote:First they get unrelegated and put back in the CL. And now one of our key players - whose job would've been to help contain Kaka - is suspended for nonsense.

    Some things just make you wonder.

    The Van Bommel decision is ridiculous.

    And so is your post.
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    Post by Effenberg Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:02 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Effenberg wrote:First they get unrelegated and put back in the CL. And now one of our key players - whose job would've been to help contain Kaka - is suspended for nonsense.

    Some things just make you wonder.

    The Van Bommel decision is ridiculous.

    And so is your post.

    Would you care to elaborate?
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    Post by Forza It Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:04 pm

    Effenberg wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Effenberg wrote:First they get unrelegated and put back in the CL. And now one of our key players - whose job would've been to help contain Kaka - is suspended for nonsense.

    Some things just make you wonder.

    The Van Bommel decision is ridiculous.

    And so is your post.

    Would you care to elaborate?

    No. I fielded questions of Italian integrity all last summer.
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:49 pm

    i think it is wrong by uefa bu seeing who it happened to i couldnt care less and to be honest i hope he does miss both games.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:01 pm

    Its doing Bayern a favour isn't it ?

    He's a very poor player.

    I do think its out of order though and it will be better for Milan if he plays otherwise it will be a tainted victory.
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:06 pm

    Stefan Kuntz wrote:Its doing Bayern a favour isn't it ?

    He's a very poor player.

    I do think its out of order though and it will be better for Milan if he plays otherwise it will be a tainted victory.
    not really since i thought he was really poor in both legs against and im not sure he has really been an succes at bayern.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:15 pm

    He isn't the most creative or techninally gifted player but he is good. Quite similar to lampard interms of the way they time their runs into the box.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:17 am

    Agooner wrote:He isn't the most creative or techninally gifted player but he is good. Quite similar to lampard interms of the way they time their runs into the box.

    ok

    They both play well for their clubs but when they play for the national team they are SHITE.... Wink
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    Post by DS Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:48 am

    He was the one making the forward runs so perhaps Demi will play with Hargreaves playing in a more attacking role
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    Post by Kroos Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:53 am

    thats a bad news, we`ve got a huge lack in the central midfield of quality players, and now without van bommel in both games MILAN is my favourtie

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