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Argentina first for first time
The fact that the teams towards the top of the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking are so close has led to another change of leader, with Argentina climbing from third to first place. Having finally ousted Brazil from the number one spot in February, Italy have already made way for Argentina. Apart from that, there are no other changes in the top ten.
The majority of changes in this month’s ranking are a direct result of a devaluation of past results, however. Argentina have certainly benefited from those devaluations, but their 1-0 victory over France in February also helped them claim top spot for the very first time since the introduction of the ranking.
Aside from the change at the top, there are few major movers in the upper reaches of the ranking. In the top 50, Finland’s surge (33rd, up 15) catches the eye, as does the appearance among the 50 best teams of both FYR Macedonia (49th, up 4) and Costa Rica (50th, up 4). Further down the ranking, both Panama (54th, up 20) and Nicaragua (156th, up 11) gain more than ten places, whereas Iceland (86th, up 9), Guyana (95th, up 9), Antigua and Barbuda (130th, up 8 ) and Chad (135th, up 9) all improve their standing by making near double-figure gains. Having recorded the biggest climb, Panama are not only the Mover of the Month but also the team with the two most emphatic victories in terms of the number of points gained.
Only 17 “A” international matches have been played in the last four weeks, which means that so far this year 119 games have been taken into account for the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking. In addition to nine qualifying matches (for the CONCACAF Gold Cup), this month’s ranking includes eight friendly matches.
- The next FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking will be published on 18 April 2007.
Rank, Team, Pts: Mar 07, +/-Rank Feb 07, +/-Pts: Feb 07
1 Argentina 1616 2 81
2 Italy 1592 -1 30
3 Brazil 1557 -1 17
4 France 1515 0 19
5 Germany 1390 0 31
6 England 1339 0 9
7 Netherlands 1313 0 1
8 Portugal 1288 0 26
9 Czech Republic 1195 0 2
10 Spain 1161 0 0
11 Ukraine 1037 0 19
12 Croatia 982 0 -5
13 Greece 961 0 35
14 Romania 919 1 7
15 Sweden 914 1 20
16 Scotland 911 4 57
17 Switzerland 906 -3 -7
18 Cameroon 893 -1 0
19 Ghana 881 3 33
20 Côte d'Ivoire 875 1 22
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Argentina top FIFA World Rankings!
chrissicross- Number of posts : 6246
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Ä- Number of posts : 11028
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the ranking is just a complete joke
DD- Number of posts : 10721
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Hush top 5!
Saintsar- Guest
ottOld Shatterhand wrote:the ranking is just a complete joke
Obviously Germany should be number one and England shouldn't even be ranked...
Ricardo Jol- Number of posts : 12766
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I haven't seen one poster who made a better ranking so far so don't be foolish and accept this ranking! THe Elo rating is a good alternative...
www.eloratings.net
1 Brazil 2034 1 2152 0 +26 805 291 266 248 499 137 169 1755 774
2 France 2021 1 2105 +4 +93 671 339 256 76 316 214 141 1207 982
3 Italy 1992 1 2077 +4 +72 654 305 246 103 350 129 175 1145 655
4 Argentina 1971 1 2111 +4 +76 859 307 339 213 453 190 216 1627 936
5 Netherlands 1965 1 2067 -3 +3 636 300 263 73 308 182 146 1315 843
6 Germany 1955 1 2098 +5 +98 783 336 329 118 448 174 161 1752 938
7 England 1917 1 2040 -4 -20 847 369 402 76 477 164 206 1894 857
8 Portugal 1890 2 1983 +1 +4 456 218 183 55 205 149 102 729 583
9 Croatia 1873 5 1967 +6 +58 172 70 74 28 83 37 52 294 178
10 Spain 1872 1 2008 -6 -59 530 250 211 69 282 112 136 1009 518
11 Czechia 1866 1 1999 -6 -64 667 270 321 76 327 193 147 1275 838
12 Denmark 1856 2 1959 -2 -25 705 305 328 72 329 241 135 1330 1005
13 Romania 1839 5 1910 +1 +9 603 241 292 70 267 188 148 1002 796
14 Uruguay 1819 1 2035 +7 +24 782 272 330 180 336 260 186 1236 1008
15 Switzerland 1811 8 1876 +13 +49 667 316 307 44 213 309 145 952 1210
16 Sweden 1800 2 1953 -4 -46 874 387 396 91 427 254 193 1828 1185
17 Turkey 1795 9 1867 -1 -17 451 193 211 47 157 186 108 588 697
17 Greece 1795 7 1896 +6 +15 442 205 204 33 152 185 105 546 679
19 Mexico 1793 6 1936 -1 -17 690 236 201 253 339 181 170 1245 746
20 United States 1781 11 1869 -7 -61 504 278 167 59 197 191 116 675 697
www.eloratings.net
1 Brazil 2034 1 2152 0 +26 805 291 266 248 499 137 169 1755 774
2 France 2021 1 2105 +4 +93 671 339 256 76 316 214 141 1207 982
3 Italy 1992 1 2077 +4 +72 654 305 246 103 350 129 175 1145 655
4 Argentina 1971 1 2111 +4 +76 859 307 339 213 453 190 216 1627 936
5 Netherlands 1965 1 2067 -3 +3 636 300 263 73 308 182 146 1315 843
6 Germany 1955 1 2098 +5 +98 783 336 329 118 448 174 161 1752 938
7 England 1917 1 2040 -4 -20 847 369 402 76 477 164 206 1894 857
8 Portugal 1890 2 1983 +1 +4 456 218 183 55 205 149 102 729 583
9 Croatia 1873 5 1967 +6 +58 172 70 74 28 83 37 52 294 178
10 Spain 1872 1 2008 -6 -59 530 250 211 69 282 112 136 1009 518
11 Czechia 1866 1 1999 -6 -64 667 270 321 76 327 193 147 1275 838
12 Denmark 1856 2 1959 -2 -25 705 305 328 72 329 241 135 1330 1005
13 Romania 1839 5 1910 +1 +9 603 241 292 70 267 188 148 1002 796
14 Uruguay 1819 1 2035 +7 +24 782 272 330 180 336 260 186 1236 1008
15 Switzerland 1811 8 1876 +13 +49 667 316 307 44 213 309 145 952 1210
16 Sweden 1800 2 1953 -4 -46 874 387 396 91 427 254 193 1828 1185
17 Turkey 1795 9 1867 -1 -17 451 193 211 47 157 186 108 588 697
17 Greece 1795 7 1896 +6 +15 442 205 204 33 152 185 105 546 679
19 Mexico 1793 6 1936 -1 -17 690 236 201 253 339 181 170 1245 746
20 United States 1781 11 1869 -7 -61 504 278 167 59 197 191 116 675 697
The Pröfessör- Number of posts : 10076
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Hmm above italy( the world champions) ..? Very surprising!
L r d- Guest
Daniel Aggermark climbing up to 12th 
I still can't help but chuckle when I see Portugal below England... Crazy.
I still can't help but chuckle when I see Portugal below England... Crazy.
mongrel hawk- Number of posts : 4757
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you're totally right.
any ranking would be considered a joke. it's impossible to measure how good national teams are without bothering a lot of people.
any ranking would be considered a joke. it's impossible to measure how good national teams are without bothering a lot of people.
Ricardo Jol wrote:I haven't seen one poster who made a better ranking so far so don't be foolish and accept this ranking!
Murray- Number of posts : 10245
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We're up to 16th, must be some big mistake!!!!!!!!!
Protheus- Number of posts : 1816
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To rise in the ranking Portugal needs to win 3 world cup in sucession, 2 european cups, top all qualifing and...
...even then i doubt we would be first.
The FIFA ranking is a complete joke. It is made to put the same countries, no matter how they play or go far in all competitions, in front.
Argentina in first??? What did they do in the last... say 10 years?
This table is completly pathetic.
...even then i doubt we would be first.
The FIFA ranking is a complete joke. It is made to put the same countries, no matter how they play or go far in all competitions, in front.
Argentina in first??? What did they do in the last... say 10 years?
This table is completly pathetic.
Tom- Number of posts : 12185
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how did we not lose points from the autumn to spring? we drew to macedonia at home and lost to croatia, not to mention losing to spain in a friendly
Ricardo Jol- Number of posts : 12766
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Protheus wrote:To rise in the ranking Portugal needs to win 3 world cup in sucession, 2 european cups, top all qualifing and...
...even then i doubt we would be first.
The FIFA ranking is a complete joke. It is made to put the same countries, no matter how they play or go far in all competitions, in front.
Argentina in first??? What did they do in the last... say 10 years?
This table is completly pathetic.
This is not entirely correct....
One of the reasons why Portugal and Germany are lower on the ranking than they "have" to be, is:
You didn't play qualification games before you organised the tournament! For friendlies you get less points! That could be a bit unfair but then....
Portugal and Germany played also a tourney at home.
The Past has proven that home tourneys give you always a huge advantage to play above your real level....
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Ricardo Jol wrote:Protheus wrote:To rise in the ranking Portugal needs to win 3 world cup in sucession, 2 european cups, top all qualifing and...
...even then i doubt we would be first.
The FIFA ranking is a complete joke. It is made to put the same countries, no matter how they play or go far in all competitions, in front.
Argentina in first??? What did they do in the last... say 10 years?
This table is completly pathetic.
This is not entirely correct....
One of the reasons why Portugal and Germany are lower on the ranking than they "have" to be, is:
You didn't play qualification games before you organised the tournament! For friendlies you get less points! That could be a bit unfair but then....
Portugal and Germany played also a tourney at home.
The Past has proven that home tourneys give you always a huge advantage to play above your real level....
So how do you explain Euro 2000 and WC2006? We where playing away. We have qualified to every tournament since WC98 (we missed this one , and I still blame Mr Batta for that ridiculous refereeing against Germany)
Luso- Number of posts : 3305
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Ricardo Jol wrote:Protheus wrote:To rise in the ranking Portugal needs to win 3 world cup in sucession, 2 european cups, top all qualifing and...
...even then i doubt we would be first.
The FIFA ranking is a complete joke. It is made to put the same countries, no matter how they play or go far in all competitions, in front.
Argentina in first??? What did they do in the last... say 10 years?
This table is completly pathetic.
This is not entirely correct....
One of the reasons why Portugal and Germany are lower on the ranking than they "have" to be, is:
You didn't play qualification games before you organised the tournament! For friendlies you get less points! That could be a bit unfair but then....
Portugal and Germany played also a tourney at home.
The Past has proven that home tourneys give you always a huge advantage to play above your real level....
So is that going to be the excuse from now on. that Portugal hosted a tourney? So did Holland, they're not getting screwed on the rankings.
I don't bother with FIFA rankings anymore as they're absolutely pointless in terms of assessing value. The only shit part about it is they use them to format the tourneys...but since they don't want Portugal to do well to begin with it works for them.
People have claimed we're also low because we did poorly at WC2002, and Argentina didn't?
Pshh...
Ricardo Jol- Number of posts : 12766
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It is all based on statistics, the last 4 years are taken into account! In that period the Netherlands had to play qualifications while Portugal and Germany didn't play qualifiers.
http://www.fifa.com/documents/tournaments/FIFA_WR_revision_E.pdf
In a nutshell
Ranking rules:
points weight: W/D/L = 3/1/0
Strength of opposition: A win against a top 10 nation has a higher weight than a win against a lower ranked team
Status of games weight: WC>>EC>>Qualifiers>>Friendlies
Time weighting: games played this month weight more than the month before. Also only the LAST 4 years are taken into account
Regional vs intercontinental weigthing: UEFA: 1.0 >> CONMEBOL: 0.98 >> CONCACAF: 0.85 >> AFC: 0.85 >> CAF: 0.85 >> OFC: 0.85
Perhaps this (new) ranking is not perfect but they try at least to be as neutral as possible. People who are saying the ranking is shite have to come up with better ideas first before slagging everything off!
http://www.fifa.com/documents/tournaments/FIFA_WR_revision_E.pdf
In a nutshell
Ranking rules:
points weight: W/D/L = 3/1/0
Strength of opposition: A win against a top 10 nation has a higher weight than a win against a lower ranked team
Status of games weight: WC>>EC>>Qualifiers>>Friendlies
Time weighting: games played this month weight more than the month before. Also only the LAST 4 years are taken into account
Regional vs intercontinental weigthing: UEFA: 1.0 >> CONMEBOL: 0.98 >> CONCACAF: 0.85 >> AFC: 0.85 >> CAF: 0.85 >> OFC: 0.85
Perhaps this (new) ranking is not perfect but they try at least to be as neutral as possible. People who are saying the ranking is shite have to come up with better ideas first before slagging everything off!
doninha- Guest
There are different rationals possible, and I know its impossible to everyone agree with one.
The only thing it upsets me is that every time FIFA realises big teams are sinking, they change the rational.
The moment Portugal or other small countries climb on this ranking, and the moment big teams flood themselves, you can bet they will change the ranking.
I actually like most of the principles of this ranking, although the main flaw is that you can have teams just playing for the ranking (analysing it and scheduling games and expectations for the ranking), instead of following the natural rythm of international football (qualify, go to tournaments, win games).
The only thing it upsets me is that every time FIFA realises big teams are sinking, they change the rational.
The moment Portugal or other small countries climb on this ranking, and the moment big teams flood themselves, you can bet they will change the ranking.
I actually like most of the principles of this ranking, although the main flaw is that you can have teams just playing for the ranking (analysing it and scheduling games and expectations for the ranking), instead of following the natural rythm of international football (qualify, go to tournaments, win games).
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it IS a joke, these rankings,
they are designed specifically to make the inhabitants of the major footballing powers feel good about themselves, spurring on consumerism in those countries and dragging down the dollar in the process.
they are designed specifically to make the inhabitants of the major footballing powers feel good about themselves, spurring on consumerism in those countries and dragging down the dollar in the process.
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Ricardo Jol wrote:I haven't seen one poster who made a better ranking so far so don't be foolish and accept this ranking! THe Elo rating is a good alternative...
www.eloratings.net
1 Brazil 2034 1 2152 0 +26 805 291 266 248 499 137 169 1755 774
2 France 2021 1 2105 +4 +93 671 339 256 76 316 214 141 1207 982
3 Italy 1992 1 2077 +4 +72 654 305 246 103 350 129 175 1145 655
4 Argentina 1971 1 2111 +4 +76 859 307 339 213 453 190 216 1627 936
5 Netherlands 1965 1 2067 -3 +3 636 300 263 73 308 182 146 1315 843
6 Germany 1955 1 2098 +5 +98 783 336 329 118 448 174 161 1752 938
7 England 1917 1 2040 -4 -20 847 369 402 76 477 164 206 1894 857
8 Portugal 1890 2 1983 +1 +4 456 218 183 55 205 149 102 729 583
9 Croatia 1873 5 1967 +6 +58 172 70 74 28 83 37 52 294 178
10 Spain 1872 1 2008 -6 -59 530 250 211 69 282 112 136 1009 518
11 Czechia 1866 1 1999 -6 -64 667 270 321 76 327 193 147 1275 838
12 Denmark 1856 2 1959 -2 -25 705 305 328 72 329 241 135 1330 1005
13 Romania 1839 5 1910 +1 +9 603 241 292 70 267 188 148 1002 796
14 Uruguay 1819 1 2035 +7 +24 782 272 330 180 336 260 186 1236 1008
15 Switzerland 1811 8 1876 +13 +49 667 316 307 44 213 309 145 952 1210
16 Sweden 1800 2 1953 -4 -46 874 387 396 91 427 254 193 1828 1185
17 Turkey 1795 9 1867 -1 -17 451 193 211 47 157 186 108 588 697
17 Greece 1795 7 1896 +6 +15 442 205 204 33 152 185 105 546 679
19 Mexico 1793 6 1936 -1 -17 690 236 201 253 339 181 170 1245 746
20 United States 1781 11 1869 -7 -61 504 278 167 59 197 191 116 675 697
The official ranking have the top 8 teams spot on at least. Argentina top
France shouldn't be 2nd though..I'd put them 5th! Italy,Brazil and Germany should be above them. Then England in 6th,Portugal 7th and Holland 8th
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@The Don
I agree with you the weightings makes a huge difference when you change them. Also it is strange the FIFA changed the rules too many times. The most debatable thing is. They do have a ranking system now but they don't use it when it is possible. It is not clear what they are doing when it comes to a seeding procedure before a World Cup. If they were confident the ranking was good they would have used it for the seeding procedure like in Tennis.
So there is a lot to crirticise the FIFA.
However, in general this is not a bad ranking. Also Portugal would have been lower in the ranking (due to the friendlies vs qualifiers) in the old system.
I agree with you the weightings makes a huge difference when you change them. Also it is strange the FIFA changed the rules too many times. The most debatable thing is. They do have a ranking system now but they don't use it when it is possible. It is not clear what they are doing when it comes to a seeding procedure before a World Cup. If they were confident the ranking was good they would have used it for the seeding procedure like in Tennis.
So there is a lot to crirticise the FIFA.
However, in general this is not a bad ranking. Also Portugal would have been lower in the ranking (due to the friendlies vs qualifiers) in the old system.
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