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    Post by Ä Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:22 pm

    should McLaren drop him from the squad to let him concentrate on international club football first ?
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    Post by S4P Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:31 pm

    Well, Podolski was able to score against San Marino, so I can't see Rooney having any trouble against Andorra.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:36 pm

    Well, Podolski was able to score against Brazil, so I can't see Rooney having any trouble against Northern Ireland.


    Oh wait...
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    Post by Ä Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:38 pm

    well

    Zerooney could not find the net against N.Ireland, Wales, Azer. either

    international defenders of the MINOR states have come to think of ZEROoney as the PET lion: cute and cuddely with the bite of a ferocious tortoise Ale

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    does anybody know of a similar case in international football ?

    an almost undroppable striker who just never scored for nearly three years ?
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    Post by Hlebagone Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:38 pm

    I doubt hell score. Thta said, id only say England are 70% likely to score altogether...
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:39 pm

    Kevin mk 2 wrote:I doubt hell score. Thta said, id only say England are 70% likely to score altogether...

    England will thrash Andorra, and Rooney probably will score. Anything else would be a huge surprise (the former).
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    Post by Cesc Soler Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:44 pm

    No. Because we don't have other alternatives!!!

    Shearer went through a drought before Euro 96. Even though it is a very long on I think once Rooney gets one the rest will flood in.
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    Post by Ä Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:44 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:
    Kevin mk 2 wrote:I doubt hell score. Thta said, id only say England are 70% likely to score altogether...

    England will thrash Andorra, and Rooney probably will score. Anything else would be a huge surprise (the former).

    England did NOT thrash N.Ireland, Wales, Austria or even Azer

    and ZEROoney did NOT score

    if 002 reversed that trend it would be a HUGE surprise

    history suggests it's virtually impossible
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:46 pm

    Cesc wrote:No. Because we don't have other alternatives!!!

    Shearer went through a drought before Euro 96. Even though it is a very long on I think once Rooney gets one the rest will flood in.

    Maybe you are simply not using him properly? Is Rooney a striker, or more of an attacking midfielder / second striker who could create chances for others (foremost)?

    Shearer was a very different type of forward, can't really compare them two.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:55 pm

    Dotter und Blitzen wrote:
    England did NOT thrash N.Ireland, Wales, Austria or even Azer

    and ZEROoney did NOT score

    if 002 reversed that trend it would be a HUGE surprise

    history suggests it's virtually impossible

    It WILL be a huge surprise if England don't thrash Andorra. It won't be that much of a surprise if Rooney doesn't score.

    Andorra = Luxembourg / Malta / San Marino material
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    Post by gone Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:58 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:
    Dotter und Blitzen wrote:
    England did NOT thrash N.Ireland, Wales, Austria or even Azer

    and ZEROoney did NOT score

    if 002 reversed that trend it would be a HUGE surprise

    history suggests it's virtually impossible

    It WILL be a huge surprise if England don't thrash Andorra. It won't be that much of a surprise if Rooney doesn't score.

    Andorra = Luxembourg / Malta / San Marino material

    Luxembourg 0-1 Netherlands
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    Post by Fey Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:59 pm

    gone wrote:
    blutgraetsche wrote:
    Dotter und Blitzen wrote:
    England did NOT thrash N.Ireland, Wales, Austria or even Azer

    and ZEROoney did NOT score

    if 002 reversed that trend it would be a HUGE surprise

    history suggests it's virtually impossible

    It WILL be a huge surprise if England don't thrash Andorra. It won't be that much of a surprise if Rooney doesn't score.

    Andorra = Luxembourg / Malta / San Marino material

    Luxembourg 0-1 Netherlands

    Was just about to mention that as well, Luxemburg is better then those really small states.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:59 pm

    Don't let the Dutchies read that... Wink

    Oh well, too late. There you have a Dutchie looking for excuses... Wink
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    Post by Machiavel Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:02 pm

    What is with Otto's obsession with Rooney, as long as he is playing well for Manchester United i don't care if he never scores for England.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:04 pm

    otto is obsessed with the English national team, and Rooney is their mascot, the "holy grail", the untouchable icon. It's easy to join the "drop Lampard" bandwagon, the WUM appeal is much higher if you go for Rooney.
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    Post by gone Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:05 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Don't let the Dutchies read that... Wink

    Oh well, too late. There you have a Dutchie looking for excuses... Wink

    Is not an excuse. It's true. Luxemburg lost 2-1 against Belarus in their last game. And Luxembourg 0-1 Bulgaria. So don't put Luxemburg in the same category as San Marino, Andora, Malta or Lichtenstien (I hope I spelled it right).


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    Post by Machiavel Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:05 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:otto is obsessed with the English national team, and Rooney is their mascot, the "holy grail", the untouchable icon. It's easy to join the "drop Lampard" bandwagon, the WUM appeal is much higher if you go for Rooney.

    So he is a wannabe WUM?
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:06 pm

    gone wrote:
    Is not an excuse. It's true. Luxemburg lost 2-1 against Belarus in their last game. And Luxembourg 0-1 Bulgaria. So don't put Luxemburg in the same category as San Marino, Andora, Malta or Lichtenstien (I hope I spelled it right).

    Luxembourg were about 190th in the Fifa rankings the last time we played them (prior to the WC). They are in that category, a team of amateurs.
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    Post by Ä Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:07 pm

    England have played badly against the likes of Lichtenstein and Luxemburg as well

    on paper, they SHOULD thrash Andorra

    then again, they SHOULD have thrashed T&T at the WC as well

    we all know how that ended

    historically, England find playing "smaller names" as easy as most of us getting it up for Mageret Beckett

    wahre Geschichte Wink
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    Post by gone Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:07 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Luxembourg were about 190th in the Fifa rankings the last time we played them (prior to the WC). They are in that category, a team of amateurs.

    Ok, maybe they are in better shape then the rest. I can't wait to see Gibraltar play. Laughing
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:08 pm

    Rai Krol wrote:
    So he is a wannabe WUM?

    No, he is one of the funniest WUMs ever.
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    Post by Fey Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:08 pm

    gone wrote:
    blutgraetsche wrote:Don't let the Dutchies read that... Wink

    Oh well, too late. There you have a Dutchie looking for excuses... Wink

    Is not an excuse. It's true. Luxemburg lost 2-1 against Belarus in their last game. And Luxembourg 0-1 Bulgaria. So don't put Luxemburg in the same category as San Marino, Andora, Malta or Lichtenstien (I hope I spelled it right).

    Good to have a Romanian on the board! I was hoping you would beat us! why didnt you played a little more attacking minded, you could easily won that match. I think this team is better then what I saw during the 2006 qualification. Also a big ok for your supporters, at least your country have them!
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    Post by gone Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:10 pm

    Fey wrote:
    gone wrote:
    blutgraetsche wrote:Don't let the Dutchies read that... Wink

    Oh well, too late. There you have a Dutchie looking for excuses... Wink

    Is not an excuse. It's true. Luxemburg lost 2-1 against Belarus in their last game. And Luxembourg 0-1 Bulgaria. So don't put Luxemburg in the same category as San Marino, Andora, Malta or Lichtenstien (I hope I spelled it right).

    Good to have a Romanian on the board! I was hoping you would beat us! why didnt you played a little more attacking minded, you could easily won that match. I think this team is better then what I saw during the 2006 qualification. Also a big ok for your supporters, at least your country have them!

    Stupid coach + some players that shouldn't play for the NT.
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    Post by Ä Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:11 pm

    @blut/rai

    how is it a WU saying that Rooney has become a liability and should be dropped ?

    imagine Klose not scoring for THREE years

    EVERYBODY in Germany would demand he should be dropped

    football is about results after all
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    Post by Machiavel Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:12 pm

    Dotter und Blitzen wrote:@blut/rai

    imagine Klose not scoring for THREE years

    EVERYBODY in Germany would demand he should be dropped

    football is about results after all

    Correct ok

    If the manager had sense .. he would drop him, but your right .. somehow he is 'undroppable'.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:13 pm

    otto, you are right about that actually, however, you know very well that having a go at Rooney is the best way to wind up the English posters on this board.

    Du Schlawiner Du... Wink


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    Post by debaser Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:15 pm

    Dotter und Blitzen wrote:@blut/rai

    how is it a WU saying that Rooney has become a liability and should be dropped ?

    imagine Klose not scoring for THREE years

    EVERYBODY in Germany would demand he should be dropped

    football is about results after all
    when the whole team is playing badly, you can't automatically blame the striker for not scoring. especially if the midfield has been shite and unbalanced for as long as i can remember.
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:18 pm

    Rooney is appalling internationally. Crouch and Bent should play up front. And Rooney just behind, with Lampard dropped.
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    Post by Ä Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:30 pm

    Rooney at INTERNATIONAL level (for club or country) is hopeless

    to my knowledge there has never been a German striker NOT SCORING for nearly THREE years in the Nationalmannschaft

    good question actually:

    what is the longest a striker of YOUR country has gone WITHOUT scoring for the national team ?
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    Post by Deano Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:42 pm

    England beat Luxembourg 6-0 last time Otto.....how bad Laughing

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