Auf Wiedersehen , England !!!

brilliant stuff tonight

un-fu-c&ing be-lie-vable

OR NOT

ManU have finally have exposed as a fraud ; sitting on top of the EPL, serenely ahead of Chelsea, and yet out of their depth in Europe

AS Roma whupped their ass; even worse, they made the Mancunians looks positively pedestrian

are ManU really the most attractive side in the EPL ?

you could have fooled us

meanwhile, Chelsea, everybody's (but mine) favourite for the CL title at the outset, cannot defeat the admittedly excellent Valencia

the Spaniards have a point and an away goal and must now be favourites

@ Englanders

how do you explain any of this ???

it's certainly not what Alan Hanson predicted; in fact, the general consensus in the English media was that ManU and Chelsea would be formalities for the semis

let's hope that Valencia and Roma stay the course, as they derserve to

they can then meet Bayern and Liverpool for a couple of mouthwatering semis

Bayern are not through...
3 EPL teams to 1 Bundesliga team
etc etc...

If both Chelsea and United win 1-0, we both go through.

That's hardly impossible is it? (with United being at home as well).

Manchester will win easily im afraid for you Otto! Valencia-Cheslea aint decided yet either, so this topic is a bit too early.

3 English teams in the semi's would not be that surprising!

Shame we won't get to face Bayern in the semis if we did progress. I was looking forward to thrashing them again!

I hope you have a good job Otto


....because you surely must pay a fortune on therapy

If that was Bayern, Otto you would of loved the way we got a good score considering being down to 10 men.

you are quite right

it's NOT over yet

the thing with ManU is that Roma are really a FAR BETTER SIDE

in fact, Roma are excellent, whereas ManU have this annoying inability to carve out enough chances in Europe

can ManU win 1:0 ?

sure

but Roma are more than able to win themselves

the EPL giants will also miss Scholes badly

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Chelsea, IMHO, have a better chance of progressing than ManU

Mourinho will get them ready and unleash their fury

still, Valencia are a top side as well, as we saw tonight

they are quite strong at home also

you do the maths

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it's a pity really , because I have always hoped for a Bayern-ManU REVENGE

Parks lives wrote:If that was Bayern, Otto you would of loved the way we got a good score considering being down to 10 men.

Bayern of course will be shitting themselves if you go through. Who in their team could live with the pace of Ronaldo? And with Rooney back, I sense a thrashing would be handed out.

Dotter und Blitzen wrote:

Chelsea, IMHO, have a better chance of progressing than ManU

Mourinho will get them ready and unleash their fury

still, Valencia are a top side as well, as we saw tonight

they are quite strong at home also

you do the maths

They'll have to create more chances at home than they did tonight.

PS. Did you see the way Terry handled Villa? If Mertesacker had dealt with him like that, we'd have seen at least 3 threads by now praising Merte

Why do you say Terry handled Villa when they both play to the left? They'd barely have been facing each-other tonight, and from what I saw Valencia were playing longball (particularly second half) anyways.

"Terry dominates diminutive Spaniard" - congrats. He's a real footballing centreback.

S4P2 wrote:

Parks lives wrote:If that was Bayern, Otto you would of loved the way we got a good score considering being down to 10 men.

Bayern of course will be shitting themselves if you go through. Who in their team could live with the pace of Ronaldo? And with Rooney back, I sense a thrashing would be handed out.

nobody at Bayern has to live with Ronaldo's pace since we will play Totti

who, incidentally, is far better than Kaka, let alone anbody at ManU

Rooney is back because he scored an off-side goal ?

anyway, even if Bayern played ManU in the semis, we would not have to be afraid of 002 at all; this was his first CL goal for 18 games

now we can wait another three years before he hits the net again ; it certainly won't happen this year

zen and the art of wrote:Why do you say Terry handled Villa when they both play to the left? They'd barely have been facing each-other tonight, and from what I saw Valencia were playing longball (particularly second half) anyways.

"Terry dominates diminutive Spaniard" - congrats. He's a real footballing centreback.

Villa spent most of the game down the right tonight, but couldn't get into the game because everytime the ball came near to him, Terry would be marking him and one of Terry, Mikel or Carvalho would intercept. When he went over to the left, the same happened with Carvalho.

Considering the threat that Villa was supposed to offer tonight, he really didn't show up, which is down to fantastic defending imo.

so if all goes well for you otto the best possible solution is

Germany 1 England 1

and you are boasting about this?


chelsea were actually mildly impressive for about the first time this season. J Cole should also help to win back a few neutrals

United were just their usual jammy selves but surely didnt play any worse than bayern last night

s4p

the only thing I remember Terry doing was a DIVE in the penalty area

children

I NEVER claimed the Bundesliga was the best league in Europe

in fact, we are underfunded and therefore don't have many clubs that could compete in the CL

the difference to England is

a) money

b) English journalists treating foreign clubs like sidekicks; the fact that ALL THREE EPL sides would go through was treated as a formality; even Peacock, who is sometimes quite thoughtful, dismissed Valencia's and Roma's chances

PATHETIC

Bayern and Milan yesterday were poor; but the eventual winner will step up in the semis for a host of reasons

ManU tonight certainly did not look like EPL Champs in waiting though; Bayern are lucky if they still qualify for the CL next year

they are on different pages

Dotter und Blitzen wrote:s4p

the only thing I remember Terry doing was a DIVE in the penalty area

You mean when he was wrestled to the ground?

The bloke had both his arms around Terry's waist. Seemed like he wanted to dance or something.

chelsea could easily have had two pens tonight.

the one on shev was stonewall and terry was indeed manhandled


@ otto- of course people are going to talk up the english teams chances on english Tv. you will have to wait until the games are over to see how right they were. this thread will be very bumpable im guessing

Milan
Liverpool
Man u
Chelsea

now this would be fun

COTR wrote:chelsea could easily have had two pens tonight.

the one on shev was stonewall and terry was indeed manhandled

But then again, when do we ever get penalties?

PS Cotr... if Lamps performs like that too many times I may consider becoming a member of your group

COTR wrote:

Milan
Liverpool
Man u
Chelsea

now this would be fun

that would be when I take a YEAR OFF from football

S4P2 wrote:

COTR wrote:chelsea could easily have had two pens tonight.

the one on shev was stonewall and terry was indeed manhandled

But then again, when do we ever get penalties?

PS Cotr... if Lamps performs like that too many times I may consider becoming a member of your group

on positive note for otto.. not that I should be encouraging the idiot ... ballack looked much improved in a deeper role. there is hope after all.

that was much more like the chelsea of old SP. Diarra should develop into a brilliant player if he ever escapes the dreaded right back position.

Flump is totally useless as a midfielder as we have all said a million times. He contributes nothing and it's especially noticeable with no maka, essien behind him. you may hope roman cashes in in the summer because he is holding the shape of the team back IMO. you can't play him without the shield so you then lose width.


again though Im hoping you go through. If carra pockets drogba then athens here we come

Otto were you impressed by Rooneys wonderful goal, he did alot more than podolski did last night and more than Klose did all season.

We were down to 10 men for 60 minutes, but still scored one of the goals of the tournament.

Romas goals came from a corner/deflection and a howler from VDS, they didnt do that much considering they were playing at home against a united side with 10 players and 5 of the first team missing. We will win at OT and go through.

Yes Otto yes. Loving this thread

Something to ponder-if Roma score next week, Man U will need to score 3.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Yes Otto yes. Loving this thread

Something to ponder-if Roma score next week, Man U will need to score 3.

They'd have to score

Not that they could score 2 if it came to it.

Chelsea will win in my opinion , Valencia will try to hold like they did Inter but Chelsea have a habit of grafting result.
We are never the same side in Europe, lack of squad depth in key areas , I fancy Roma to go through.

Dotter und Blitzen wrote:brilliant stuff tonight

un-fu-c&ing be-lie-vable

OR NOT

ManU have finally have exposed as a fraud ; sitting on top of the EPL, serenely ahead of Chelsea, and yet out of their depth in Europe

AS Roma whupped their ass; even worse, they made the Mancunians looks positively pedestrian

are ManU really the most attractive side in the EPL ?

you could have fooled us

meanwhile, Chelsea, everybody's (but mine) favourite for the CL title at the outset, cannot defeat the admittedly excellent Valencia

the Spaniards have a point and an away goal and must now be favourites

@ Englanders

how do you explain any of this ???

it's certainly not what Alan Hanson predicted; in fact, the general consensus in the English media was that ManU and Chelsea would be formalities for the semis

let's hope that Valencia and Roma stay the course, as they derserve to

they can then meet Bayern and Liverpool for a couple of mouthwatering semis

It was 11 Vs 10 for most of the game. Im presuming unless Richardson plays in will not be so at Old Trafford

On a side note: noted the typically gracious play from the Italian hosts in making sure the ballboys were quick to give the homeside the ball for throw ins then suddenly go missing when it was a United throw in. Such gamesmanship was matched only by the balanced way the policy handled troublemakers from both sets of supporters, kicking several shades of shit out of Manchester United fans whilst not even venturing onto the otherside of the perspex divide to meet out the same punishment to the goadking Roman supporters...

Another amusing thing about last night was that Roma had the nerve to accuse Ronaldo of play acting, yet I counted at least 3 blatant moments of play acting from the Italians in the first 15 minutes, compunded by Simone Perrota Platoon slump in the box which he got rightly carded for.

Extra points for fairplay must also go to Chivu for clapping and patting the ref on the back when Scholes got sent off.

I hope Milan go through as a representative of Italy, but not Roma, who were immensely dislikeable based on yesterday's performance. What Englishman can honestly say they would want to go and play, or watch their side play, in Rome?

I Am Weasel wrote:

Dotter und Blitzen wrote:brilliant stuff tonight

un-fu-c&ing be-lie-vable

OR NOT

ManU have finally have exposed as a fraud ; sitting on top of the EPL, serenely ahead of Chelsea, and yet out of their depth in Europe

AS Roma whupped their ass; even worse, they made the Mancunians looks positively pedestrian

are ManU really the most attractive side in the EPL ?

you could have fooled us

meanwhile, Chelsea, everybody's (but mine) favourite for the CL title at the outset, cannot defeat the admittedly excellent Valencia

the Spaniards have a point and an away goal and must now be favourites

@ Englanders

how do you explain any of this ???

it's certainly not what Alan Hanson predicted; in fact, the general consensus in the English media was that ManU and Chelsea would be formalities for the semis

let's hope that Valencia and Roma stay the course, as they derserve to

they can then meet Bayern and Liverpool for a couple of mouthwatering semis

It was 11 Vs 10 for most of the game. Im presuming unless Richardson plays in will not be so at Old Trafford

On a side note: noted the typically gracious play from the Italian hosts in making sure the ballboys were quick to give the homeside the ball for throw ins then suddenly go missing when it was a United throw in. Such gamesmanship was matched only by the balanced way the policy handled troublemakers from both sets of supporters, kicking several shades of shit out of Manchester United fans whilst not even venturing onto the otherside of the perspex divide to meet out the same punishment to the goadking Roman supporters...

Another amusing thing about last night was that Roma had the nerve to accuse Ronaldo of play acting, yet I counted at least 3 blatant moments of play acting from the Italians in the first 15 minutes, compunded by Simone Perrota Platoon slump in the box which he got rightly carded for.

Extra points for fairplay must also go to Chivu for clapping and patting the ref on the back when Scholes got sent off.

I hope Milan go through as a representative of Italy, but not Roma, who were immensely dislikeable based on yesterday's performance. What Englishman can honestly say they would want to go and play, or watch their side play, in Rome?

Good post, Rooney totataly outshone Podolski.

United played better with 10 men against a better team, than Bayern did with 11.

United scored a beautiful goal, without having to rely on punts into the penalty area and dodgy goalkeeping

The ball boys were idiots, surely that sort of action isnt allowed. I hope we are winning 1-0 with 2 minutes to go at OT and the ball boys refuse to give Roma the ball.

Chivu is now in the same bracket as Totti and De Rossi

The police should be sacked and sued

Oh and Bayern are going out, as they wont get that lucky again.

Now you all know why I hate Roma so much

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Yes Otto yes. Loving this thread

Something to ponder-if Roma score next week, Man U will need to score 3.

Or 2 for extra time.

I honestly think 2-1 is probably the most likely score for the second leg.

I Am Weasel wrote:On a side note: noted the typically gracious play from the Italian hosts in making sure the ballboys were quick to give the homeside the ball for throw ins then suddenly go missing when it was a United throw in.

Extra points for fairplay must also go to Chivu for clapping and patting the ref on the back when Scholes got sent off.

The ballboys using multiple balls is quite normal, and if anything I was just amazed that ManU failed to understand it again and again. They were simply unprofessional and failed to get into position quick enough. This kind of thing happens at many stadiums.

As for Chivu, baaaah.. mountain out of a molehill.. off course he will be trying to joke with the ref when they are ahead... Again it happens everywhere..

THE return legs now clearly are

Bayern vs Milan

+

Valencia vs Chelsea

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ManU vs Roma will be good to watch as well but the first two encounters will generate more heat

Chelsea are not out yet; in fact, I have a hunch they are going to score at least a goal using the sledgehammer approach

whether Valencia can pick them up on the counter to win 2:1 remains to be seen

the Spaniards are 54:46 favourites

Roma play football on a different level to ManU; there is NO WAY they will not score at Old Trafford: 62:38 favourites

and yes, ManU played with 10 men for 60 minutes; but curiously that often helps teams to focus and step up a gear

and once again, the Rooney goal was OFFSIDE