Fiorentina building for the future

Fiorentina are now looking to sign defender Cristian Zapata from Udinese in the summer. The defender has been great for Udinese this season and is valued at around £11m.

I think this is a lot to spend on him but im glad to see Firoentina getting ready to spend big and bring in good young talent.

Lupoli has already agreed to move and then the club are also close to signing Anderlecht defender Vanden Borre who is 19 but already has 15 caps for Belgium.

Whilst the Viola already have Azzurri U21 stars Montolivo, Pazzini, Donadel and Potenza.

With these great youngsters alongside the likes of Toni, Mutu, Frey, Dianelli, Liverani and Pasqual i think Fiorentina will be a major force once again next season.

Juventus are sniffing around Pazzini....and with Toni,Mutu and Lupoli, he might be inclined to move there...

DeanoTheEmo-WHUFC wrote:Juventus are sniffing around Pazzini....and with Toni,Mutu and Lupoli, he might be inclined to move there...

I hope not. I think it would take a massive bid for the Viola to sell, he is really seen as Toni's successor.

Do you think they will try to sign Blasi on a long term deal from Juve?

Koldrup (sp) is very underated too. He was good at Udinese. I am surprised Everton wasted him.

Cesc wrote:Do you think they will try to sign Blasi on a long term deal from Juve?

Koldrup (sp) is very underated too. He was good at Udinese. I am surprised Everton wasted him.

Not sure, he wont be going back to Juve as they have lots of players who play a similar role. However, its hard to say if Firoentina will sign him on a long term deal i think they will just wait and see who is available in the summer and if Fiorentina are in the champs league or not.

£11m for Zapata! thats a bit excessive - virtually EPL prices!

Tweedle wrote:£11m for Zapata! thats a bit excessive - virtually EPL prices!

Yeah i think it will be lower than that if the deal happens. Still he is a very yound and highly rated defender. I dont think Fiortentina will need to buy lots of players as their squad isnt bad. It may make sense to go for 2 or 3 big buys and keep with their settled squad rather than bring in 6 or 7 players like last season.

They're planning to be able to challenge for the Scudetto in 2010 according to Liverani - (who wants rolling one year deals)

If those players can stay with them and mature then its possible.

Yeah and with Montolivo, Lupoli, Pazzini, Donadel, Pasqual and Potenza they have players with great potential. Hopefully alongside the likes of Frey, Toni, Liverani, Mutu etc in the future years they can push for the Scudetto.

Sgoater1 wrote:Yeah and with Montolivo, Lupoli, Pazzini, Donadel, Pasqual and Potenza they have players with great potential. Hopefully alongside the likes of Frey, Toni, Liverani, Mutu etc in the future years they can push for the Scudetto.

Don't think so mate.

i dont think it will be inter that get him.fiorentinas president have some problems with inter if i remember correctly and that was the main reason he didnt move last summer.

Frey (27) probably has 10 more years of football.

Danielli (27), Kroldrup (27) and Gamberini (25) as defenders have a few years on them as well. Pasqual is 24. And Potenza is 23. Its a very young high quality defence. Ujfalusi is a veteran at 29, he could be a kid at Milan

Reginaldo, Montolivo, Lupoli, Pazzini, Ribiero, Donadel, and Potenza are all under 23.

Yeah, future is bright, future is VIOLA!!!

bluenine wrote:Frey (27) probably has 10 more years of football.

Danielli (27), Kroldrup (27) and Gamberini (25) as defenders have a few years on them as well. Pasqual is 24. And Potenza is 23. Its a very young high quality defence. Ujfalusi is a veteran at 29, he could be a kid at Milan

Reginaldo, Montolivo, Lupoli, Pazzini, Ribiero, Donadel, and Potenza are all under 23.

Yeah, future is bright, future is VIOLA!!!

I like what you did there bluenine

I don't think Toni will move anyway to be honest...

DeanoTheEmo-WHUFC wrote:I don't think Toni will move anyway to be honest...

They won't want to sell him but I think he'll want to leave.

He's not young and he'll want a crack at the CL.

Clubs like Sevilla and Fiorentina are doing well, with sensible transfer policies, to try and challenge the elite but eventually some of their better players will want to move to Real, Barca, Milan, Inter - its just a fact of life and there's no point in keeping players who aren't happy.

I really hope he stays but if he did leave it would be intersting how much they could get for him given his age.

Oh, they will get good money despite his age... for such a lethal goal machine is worth a lot, even at 30. It should be in the range of £15-25 million.

Sgoater1 wrote:I really hope he stays but if he did leave it would be intersting how much they could get for him given his age.

Well said, G!

Fiorentina's problems will be when the big clubs coming hunting for some of this prime talent. In a few years, the likes of Montolivo, Pazzini, and Donadel might be azzurri superstars, and it may become difficult to hold them.

Nevertheless, the future is looking bright

bluenine wrote:Frey (27) probably has 10 more years of football.

Danielli (27), Kroldrup (27) and Gamberini (25) as defenders have a few years on them as well. Pasqual is 24. And Potenza is 23. Its a very young high quality defence. Ujfalusi is a veteran at 29, he could be a kid at Milan

Reginaldo, Montolivo, Lupoli, Pazzini, Ribiero, Donadel, and Potenza are all under 23.

Yeah, future is bright, future is VIOLA!!!

Just watched the roundup - Montolivo's goal was class (about time!), great finishes from Toni and Reginaldo and Jorgensen's cross for Kroldrup's goal was an absolute peach

Fiorentina play a nice mix of passing and direct/long-ball.

Gigliati wrote: Well said, G!

Fiorentina's problems will be when the big clubs coming hunting for some of this prime talent. In a few years, the likes of Montolivo, Pazzini, and Donadel might be azzurri superstars, and it may become difficult to hold them.

Nevertheless, the future is looking bright

bluenine wrote:Frey (27) probably has 10 more years of football.

Danielli (27), Kroldrup (27) and Gamberini (25) as defenders have a few years on them as well. Pasqual is 24. And Potenza is 23. Its a very young high quality defence. Ujfalusi is a veteran at 29, he could be a kid at Milan

Reginaldo, Montolivo, Lupoli, Pazzini, Ribiero, Donadel, and Potenza are all under 23.

Yeah, future is bright, future is VIOLA!!!

We would be 3rd if we did not have a 15 point penalty, just 6 points behind Roma - probably higher since Fiorentina started very badly due to the pschycological impact of the huge penalty. Our performance has been representative of the talent the squad possesses. Prandelli has done an excellent job, if he stays for a few more years we will play the CL soon

stop...HAMEUR TIME! wrote:Just watched the roundup - Montolivo's goal was class (about time!), great finishes from Toni and Reginaldo and Jorgensen's cross for Kroldrup's goal was an absolute peach

Fiorentina play a nice mix of passing and direct/long-ball.

Gigliati wrote: Well said, G!

Fiorentina's problems will be when the big clubs coming hunting for some of this prime talent. In a few years, the likes of Montolivo, Pazzini, and Donadel might be azzurri superstars, and it may become difficult to hold them.

Nevertheless, the future is looking bright

bluenine wrote:Frey (27) probably has 10 more years of football.

Danielli (27), Kroldrup (27) and Gamberini (25) as defenders have a few years on them as well. Pasqual is 24. And Potenza is 23. Its a very young high quality defence. Ujfalusi is a veteran at 29, he could be a kid at Milan

Reginaldo, Montolivo, Lupoli, Pazzini, Ribiero, Donadel, and Potenza are all under 23.

Yeah, future is bright, future is VIOLA!!!

Actually you would have been 4th, coz Lazio would have been 2 points ahead of you without their 3 point penalty. But point taken, Fiorentina would have been much higher, coz a 15 point penalty did de-motivate the squad in the beginning.

Gigliati wrote:We would be 3rd if we did not have a 15 point penalty, just 6 points behind Roma - probably higher since Fiorentina started very badly due to the pschycological impact of the huge penalty. Our performance has been representative of the talent the squad possesses. Prandelli has done an excellent job, if he stays for a few more years we will play the CL soon

stop...HAMEUR TIME! wrote:Just watched the roundup - Montolivo's goal was class (about time!), great finishes from Toni and Reginaldo and Jorgensen's cross for Kroldrup's goal was an absolute peach

Fiorentina play a nice mix of passing and direct/long-ball.

Gigliati wrote: Well said, G!

Fiorentina's problems will be when the big clubs coming hunting for some of this prime talent. In a few years, the likes of Montolivo, Pazzini, and Donadel might be azzurri superstars, and it may become difficult to hold them.

Nevertheless, the future is looking bright

bluenine wrote:Frey (27) probably has 10 more years of football.

Danielli (27), Kroldrup (27) and Gamberini (25) as defenders have a few years on them as well. Pasqual is 24. And Potenza is 23. Its a very young high quality defence. Ujfalusi is a veteran at 29, he could be a kid at Milan

Reginaldo, Montolivo, Lupoli, Pazzini, Ribiero, Donadel, and Potenza are all under 23.

Yeah, future is bright, future is VIOLA!!!

@Gigliati

How do you rate Kroldrup.. at some point I wanted us to sign him as a backup instead of Oleguer/Thuram. Seems very good in the air..

Kroldrup is very good, he is slowly becoming a regular at Fiorentina. But I wouldn't put him at Thuram's level just yet.

And keep your paws off our players

Oleguerisntthatgreat wrote:@Gigliati

How do you rate Kroldrup.. at some point I wanted us to sign him as a backup instead of Oleguer/Thuram. Seems very good in the air..

stop...HAMEUR TIME! wrote:Just watched the roundup - Montolivo's goal was class (about time!), great finishes from Toni and Reginaldo and Jorgensen's cross for Kroldrup's goal was an absolute peach

Fiorentina play a nice mix of passing and direct/long-ball.

Gigliati wrote: Well said, G!

Fiorentina's problems will be when the big clubs coming hunting for some of this prime talent. In a few years, the likes of Montolivo, Pazzini, and Donadel might be azzurri superstars, and it may become difficult to hold them.

Nevertheless, the future is looking bright

bluenine wrote:Frey (27) probably has 10 more years of football.

Danielli (27), Kroldrup (27) and Gamberini (25) as defenders have a few years on them as well. Pasqual is 24. And Potenza is 23. Its a very young high quality defence. Ujfalusi is a veteran at 29, he could be a kid at Milan

Reginaldo, Montolivo, Lupoli, Pazzini, Ribiero, Donadel, and Potenza are all under 23.

Yeah, future is bright, future is VIOLA!!!

Yeah Montolivo's strike was great it looked like it moved a fair bit in the air. I thought Toni's goal was typical Toni, great strength and determination before a brilliant finish.

I have been meaning to ask bluenine and other Italian football lovers, what websites you check out ? i normally look at Channel4.com or Eurosport. Plus i buy football Italia every month.

Any others ?

Gigliati wrote:Kroldrup is very good, he is slowly becoming a regular at Fiorentina. But I wouldn't put him at Thuram's level just yet.

And keep your paws off our players

Oleguerisntthatgreat wrote:@Gigliati

How do you rate Kroldrup.. at some point I wanted us to sign him as a backup instead of Oleguer/Thuram. Seems very good in the air..

Don't worry we aren't being linked to anybody except Toni, but I consider that rumour very doubtful..

Channel4 is my site too, tho sometimes I look at others like sky, goal, espn, yahoo, or eurosport.

Mostly I discuss at a few forums, main one is interlist

Sgoater1 wrote:I have been meaning to ask bluenine and other Italian football lovers, what websites you check out ? i normally look at Channel4.com or Eurosport. Plus i buy football Italia every month.

Any others ?

Wasn't Koldrup the guy who didn't settle in at Everton?

kas wrote:Wasn't Koldrup the guy who didn't settle in at Everton?

Yeah thats him, signed from Udinese for about £4m (i think) wasnt given much of a chance cos he is a really decent defender and if they'd kept him happy they wouldnt now be playing Alan Stubbs.

Yeah I thought he would do quite well. I guess he just didn't settle. Had injury problems too, I think. Plus there was all that talk about Moyes having signed the wrong Fiorentina centre-back.