€80million Ronaldo on his way to Real?

According to the Guardian rumour mill. How accurate are these stories?

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2055111,00.html

the guardian is usually more reliable than some for transfer stories, but i still wouldn't necessarily trust it.

Why should he waste his time playing for Madrid when he has everything he wants at Man Utd?

I think the whole story comes from one source.
If, what has been written is true, MU would be supid if they dont take that money, no matter how important he has been for them this season.
So, u see what one season can do for a player.

Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

Secondly why would he go to Madrid, they havent won anything in years and it doesnt look like changing anytime soon.

Would be a silly bid from our POV, 80M could buy us 3/4 quality players. And we need to build a squad for next season

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

I do hope you've checked your net transfer out goings of the last few years. You'd soon find something which may alarm you and may make you change that statement.

He should hurry up signing a new contract to stop this garbage

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

Secondly why would he go to Madrid, they havent won anything in years and it doesnt look like changing anytime soon.

I can accept your first arguement but the second one is just silly. Why did Ronaldinho sign for Barcelona when they hadn't won anything for 5 years? Why has anyone signed with Inter in the last 10 years? They are big clubs and will always be attractive to top players.

The rumour is expanded in AS, it seems that Jorge Mendes, agent to both Ronaldo and Mourinho, has «offered» them both to Real Madrid, on the assumption that getting Mourinho will make it easier to attract Ronaldo.

Many times these rumours are started by agents to get better contract negotiations, which would probably seeem to be the case with this.

Jorge Mendes is a modern and competent agent, that means... he knows where he makes the big money is in transfers. So he will do guerilla to make millionaire transfers to work for his comission.

This makes me sick - agents should service players and earned in function of their contracts, not on speculative comissions in transfers.

If the 80 million are true, then you have to sell. No player in the World is worth that, and if he stays he can be mad about it... or starting acting like he is God within his team mates (I mean not Ronaldo, any player).

With that money Man Utd can make other fantastic transfers and have a more balanced team, not depending on one individual.

But how realistic is this 80 million?

Parks lives wrote:But how realistic is this 80 million?

Not very, in all likelihood.

Parks lives wrote:But how realistic is this 80 million?

a week ago calderon said that he wanted ronaldo but that no player is worth 60 mil i think or maybe it was 80 mil.

Jaime wrote:

Parks lives wrote:But how realistic is this 80 million?

Not very, in all likelihood.

If its 80 million euros, then I can see us seriously considering.

No point if its less though, especially if its 50 - 60 million euros.

Jaime wrote:

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

Secondly why would he go to Madrid, they havent won anything in years and it doesnt look like changing anytime soon.

I can accept your first arguement but the second one is just silly. Why did Ronaldinho sign for Barcelona when they hadn't won anything for 5 years? Why has anyone signed with Inter in the last 10 years? They are big clubs and will always be attractive to top players.

Exactly. And while we certianly need to ditch certain players and buy new ones, Madrid has a very good nucleus for a team that with a few more signings and an offensive coach, we could be back on top next season.
Casillas, Robinho, Gago, Higuain, Torres, Cicinho, Marcelo, Van Nistelrooy, Ramos, and even Reyes (if he starts playing well) could all play a big role next season.

Controversy wrote:

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

I do hope you've checked your net transfer out goings of the last few years. You'd soon find something which may alarm you and may make you change that statement.

We dont sell players Fergie still wants to keep, thats what I mean. Eg Beckham, Veron, Stam and RVN were sold because Fergie didnt want them, not because they wanted to leave and united needed the money. I meant we are not a feeder club.

Rez wrote:

Controversy wrote:

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

I do hope you've checked your net transfer out goings of the last few years. You'd soon find something which may alarm you and may make you change that statement.

We dont sell players Fergie still wants to keep, thats what I mean. Eg Beckham, Veron, Stam and RVN were sold because Fergie didnt want them, not because they wanted to leave and united needed the money. I meant we are not a feeder club.

But in the last 10 years, in 80% of the cases when a player wants to leave and pushes for a transfer, he tends to get it. I think that this is the key to Ronaldo's transfer. If he goes in the media saying he wants to go to Madrid and claims he will never sign a contract with ManU and so on, I think that will leave Ferguson with no option but to sell him.

Jaime wrote:

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

Secondly why would he go to Madrid, they havent won anything in years and it doesnt look like changing anytime soon.

I can accept your first arguement but the second one is just silly. Why did Ronaldinho sign for Barcelona when they hadn't won anything for 5 years? Why has anyone signed with Inter in the last 10 years? They are big clubs and will always be attractive to top players.

Ronaldinho signed from PSG, he wasnt playing for a big club when they signed him. I understand when Real sort themselves out, which they will do eventualy everyone will want to play for Real because they are a huge club. At the moment, they seem to buy 5 players every season, sack there manager, buy more players, sack there manager etc. Every player they have signed since 2003, played better for there previous club than they have for Real.

As for Inter, I couldnt understand why players kept signing for them. I honestly cant think of many players who's careers were ruined by Inter.

Torrente wrote:

Rez wrote:

Controversy wrote:

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

I do hope you've checked your net transfer out goings of the last few years. You'd soon find something which may alarm you and may make you change that statement.

We dont sell players Fergie still wants to keep, thats what I mean. Eg Beckham, Veron, Stam and RVN were sold because Fergie didnt want them, not because they wanted to leave and united needed the money. I meant we are not a feeder club.

But in the last 10 years, in 80% of the cases when a player wants to leave and pushes for a transfer, he tends to get it. I think that this is the key to Ronaldo's transfer. If he goes in the media saying he wants to go to Madrid and claims he will never sign a contract with ManU and so on, I think that will leave Ferguson with no option but to sell him.

Could be possible, but would still require big bucks, as he has a deal to 2010.

Torrente wrote:

Rez wrote:

Controversy wrote:

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

I do hope you've checked your net transfer out goings of the last few years. You'd soon find something which may alarm you and may make you change that statement.

We dont sell players Fergie still wants to keep, thats what I mean. Eg Beckham, Veron, Stam and RVN were sold because Fergie didnt want them, not because they wanted to leave and united needed the money. I meant we are not a feeder club.

But in the last 10 years, in 80% of the cases when a player wants to leave and pushes for a transfer, he tends to get it. I think that this is the key to Ronaldo's transfer. If he goes in the media saying he wants to go to Madrid and claims he will never sign a contract with ManU and so on, I think that will leave Ferguson with no option but to sell him.

That happened last year.

Parks lives wrote:

Torrente wrote:

Rez wrote:

Controversy wrote:

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

I do hope you've checked your net transfer out goings of the last few years. You'd soon find something which may alarm you and may make you change that statement.

We dont sell players Fergie still wants to keep, thats what I mean. Eg Beckham, Veron, Stam and RVN were sold because Fergie didnt want them, not because they wanted to leave and united needed the money. I meant we are not a feeder club.

But in the last 10 years, in 80% of the cases when a player wants to leave and pushes for a transfer, he tends to get it. I think that this is the key to Ronaldo's transfer. If he goes in the media saying he wants to go to Madrid and claims he will never sign a contract with ManU and so on, I think that will leave Ferguson with no option but to sell him.

That happened last year.

And if Villar Mir had beel elected as Madrid president, you can be sure that Ronaldo would be playing for us this year. That was Ronaldo's mistake, he backed Villar Mir instead of keeping quite until after the elections. Since Ronaldo had committed himself to Villar Mir, Calderon decided not to go after Ronaldo and sign Reyes instead because he was unapppy that Ronaldo backed his direct candidate for the presidency.

Parks lives wrote:

Torrente wrote:

Rez wrote:

Controversy wrote:

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

I do hope you've checked your net transfer out goings of the last few years. You'd soon find something which may alarm you and may make you change that statement.

We dont sell players Fergie still wants to keep, thats what I mean. Eg Beckham, Veron, Stam and RVN were sold because Fergie didnt want them, not because they wanted to leave and united needed the money. I meant we are not a feeder club.

But in the last 10 years, in 80% of the cases when a player wants to leave and pushes for a transfer, he tends to get it. I think that this is the key to Ronaldo's transfer. If he goes in the media saying he wants to go to Madrid and claims he will never sign a contract with ManU and so on, I think that will leave Ferguson with no option but to sell him.

That happened last year.

im sorry but madrid werent interested in him at the time because there was no madrid since the elections means no one could sign anyone. also the person he had talks with didnt win the elections.

Ronaldo has probably doubled or tripled in transfer value now, so its a whole different situation.

Last year people were talking about £15 - 20 million, now it'll be £40 - 50 million.

Parks lives wrote:Ronaldo has probably doubled or tripled in transfer value now, so its a whole different situation.

Last year people were talking about £15 - 20 million, now it'll be £40 - 50 million.

I think Calderon will go as high as 60 million Euros. I'm against spending that much for his signing, let alone spending 70 0r 80 million. But Calderon simply can't fail the socios with Ronaldo. He didn't deliver Robben, Kaka, or Fabregas. If he messes up the Ronaldo signing, he will get even more socios lining up to cause his downfall.

Torrente wrote:

Rez wrote:

Controversy wrote:

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

I do hope you've checked your net transfer out goings of the last few years. You'd soon find something which may alarm you and may make you change that statement.

We dont sell players Fergie still wants to keep, thats what I mean. Eg Beckham, Veron, Stam and RVN were sold because Fergie didnt want them, not because they wanted to leave and united needed the money. I meant we are not a feeder club.

But in the last 10 years, in 80% of the cases when a player wants to leave and pushes for a transfer, he tends to get it. I think that this is the key to Ronaldo's transfer. If he goes in the media saying he wants to go to Madrid and claims he will never sign a contract with ManU and so on, I think that will leave Ferguson with no option but to sell him.

He said he was leaving last summer, after the Rooney incident, he is still at OT. If he turns round and hands in a transfer request in the summer and decides to join Real, then he will need to get his head examined. Fergie has made him the player he is now and has a proven record of developing youngsters. We dont even no who the next Real manager will be. He would ruin his career if he joined Real.

Harsh, but true.

He'd be silly to move now. In a couple of years when Madrid are back at the top fair enough.

Torrente wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

Torrente wrote:

Rez wrote:

Controversy wrote:

Rez wrote:Firstly united arent a selling club, what does selling your best player show, on the world stage

I do hope you've checked your net transfer out goings of the last few years. You'd soon find something which may alarm you and may make you change that statement.

We dont sell players Fergie still wants to keep, thats what I mean. Eg Beckham, Veron, Stam and RVN were sold because Fergie didnt want them, not because they wanted to leave and united needed the money. I meant we are not a feeder club.

But in the last 10 years, in 80% of the cases when a player wants to leave and pushes for a transfer, he tends to get it. I think that this is the key to Ronaldo's transfer. If he goes in the media saying he wants to go to Madrid and claims he will never sign a contract with ManU and so on, I think that will leave Ferguson with no option but to sell him.

That happened last year.

And if Villar Mir had beel elected as Madrid president, you can be sure that Ronaldo would be playing for us this year. That was Ronaldo's mistake, he backed Villar Mir instead of keeping quite until after the elections. Since Ronaldo had committed himself to Villar Mir, Calderon decided not to go after Ronaldo and sign Reyes instead because he was unapppy that Ronaldo backed his direct candidate for the presidency.

Fergie said he wasnt going anywere, if he had qon the elections, Fergie wouldnt have sold him thats for sure. He will leave united at some point in his career. The longer Fergie and Quieroz are around and united are winning the longer he will stay. Besides the way things are going the top players from Spain will be joining the prem, not the other way round.

Rez wrote:Ronaldinho signed from PSG, he wasnt playing for a big club when they signed him.

I don't see what this has to do with anything -- if you're point is that top players won't go to losing teams then Ronaldinho would have left PSG to go to Milan or Madrid or somewhere other than Barcelona.

Rez wrote:I understand when Real sort themselves out, which they will do eventualy everyone will want to play for Real because they are a huge club. At the moment, they seem to buy 5 players every season, sack there manager, buy more players, sack there manager etc.

In spite of all of that players like Diarra (who was being pursued by Manchester United, Milan, Inter, and Chelsea last summer), Cannavaro (best defender at the World Cup), Higuain (wanted by Chelsea and Milan), Gago (wanted by Barcelona) all chose to come to Real Madrid.

Rez wrote:Every player they have signed since 2003, played better for there previous club than they have for Real.

Sergio Ramos has made a lot of progress since he joined from Sevilla, he became a regular, full international for Spain while playing with us. Van Nistelrooy seems to be having a more productive season this year relative to last year.

i think for him it would better if he moved next season 08/09 because then we would have had a year with shuster were things would be stable. that way he wouldnt have to come in have the pressure of being the one that saves madrid which no player has been able to in this bad period. currently he is not the player i want. i would rather have a more creating player like diego or ribbery who also wouldnt cost a fortune.