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    Post by Kimbo Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:59 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    You're right, it is money well spent, it's also money only a few clubs can afford.... so there. tongue
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:00 pm

    Rez wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Rez wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:8 Man U players !!!!

    How stupid will that look when they end the season trophyless? lol!

    van Der Saar Laugh

    About as stupid as someone who predicts Lille to beat united and Roma to beat united with Totti playing a blinder.

    Hmm - I didn't predict Roma to beat United "with Totti playing a blinder".

    I thought Roma would win the tie though.

    You didn't beat Lille in my eyes - it was a scandal.

    THAT WAS a 100% CLEAR goal!

    ok

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19jw6_lille-manchester-but-refuse

    We have gone over this before, The Lille player pushed Vidic, so it was a foul. Some refs might not have give it, but he clearly pushed him, there probably was not enough force to make him go down, but there was contact.

    Giggs goal, if the Lille players didnt foul Saha, we wouldnt have had the free kick in the first place. Why should we wait for them to set up the wall, when they fouled us to stop us from scoring.

    Ps Lille were bunch of scumbags who went to find an UEFA official to complain about the goal to.

    You can say whatever you want - Vidic fell down like a pussy, and that goal though legitimate was definitely unfair. But what's done is done, and Utd deserved to win over the two legs.
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    Post by Rez Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:00 pm

    Rai Krol 14 wrote:Ronaldo played in the UEFA Under 17 Championships

    But he wasnt the star of the tournament the way Fabregas, Saviloa, Messi and Mikel were. Lets be honest, I dont think many people had heard about Ronaldo before he signed for united. If I remember correctly all the talk and hype was about his team mate; Quaresma.
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:00 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Lucas Deano Neill wrote:I predicted in an earlier thread he'll get both. At least it's deserved!

    ok
    Rolling Eyes Drogba Rolling Eyes

    Drogba could have got it - But Ronaldo is a worthy winner.
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    Post by Tweesus Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:00 pm

    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    Still doesn't mean Kimbo isn't right - 40 million is a huge amount to spend on two players. Money only Utd and Chelsea can spend unfortunately.

    Still don't see the point though - Utd got to the position their in through good club management.

    Ok, they bought the two players but I doubt he'd have made the same point if Drogba and Essien had won and they both cost a combined fee of £50m
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:01 pm

    Rez wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Rez wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:8 Man U players !!!!

    How stupid will that look when they end the season trophyless? lol!

    van Der Saar Laugh

    About as stupid as someone who predicts Lille to beat united and Roma to beat united with Totti playing a blinder.

    Hmm - I didn't predict Roma to beat United "with Totti playing a blinder".

    I thought Roma would win the tie though.

    You didn't beat Lille in my eyes - it was a scandal.

    THAT WAS a 100% CLEAR goal!

    ok

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19jw6_lille-manchester-but-refuse

    We have gone over this before, The Lille player pushed Vidic, so it was a foul. Some refs might not have give it, but he clearly pushed him, there probably was not enough force to make him go down, but there was contact.

    Giggs goal, if the Lille players didnt foul Saha, we wouldnt have had the free kick in the first place. Why should we wait for them to set up the wall, when they fouled us to stop us from scoring.

    Ps Lille were bunch of scumbags who walked of the pitch when someone scored a legitimate goal.

    He didn't, he placed his hands on him - a player will always have his arms/hands on an opponent every time he contests a header with an opponent.

    Man U are better than Lille no worries but "styles make fights" and United would never beat Lille straight up in a 2 legged tie.
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    Post by shazlx Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:02 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    You're right, it is money well spent, it's also money only a few clubs can afford.... so there. tongue

    Your club has enough money to win the league (assuming you go out of all the cups early and have few injuries-like Arsenal in the unbeaten season).
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:02 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    Still doesn't mean Kimbo isn't right - 40 million is a huge amount to spend on two players. Money only Utd and Chelsea can spend unfortunately.

    Still don't see the point though - Utd got to the position their in through good club management.

    Ok, they bought the two players but I doubt he'd have made the same point if Drogba and Essien had won and they both cost a combined fee of £50m

    Just shows the hegemony of the big 4 - that two players can probably cover Bolton's entire transfer spending over 100 years.
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:03 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    Still doesn't mean Kimbo isn't right - 40 million is a huge amount to spend on two players. Money only Utd and Chelsea can spend unfortunately.

    Still don't see the point though - Utd got to the position their in through good club management.

    Ok, they bought the two players but I doubt he'd have made the same point if Drogba and Essien had won and they both cost a combined fee of £50m

    Only if Chelsea fans were going "look at our young players, aren't we great", as if they're academy products. <Ale>
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    Post by Rez Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:03 pm

    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Rez wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Rez wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:8 Man U players !!!!

    How stupid will that look when they end the season trophyless? lol!

    van Der Saar Laugh

    About as stupid as someone who predicts Lille to beat united and Roma to beat united with Totti playing a blinder.

    Hmm - I didn't predict Roma to beat United "with Totti playing a blinder".

    I thought Roma would win the tie though.

    You didn't beat Lille in my eyes - it was a scandal.

    THAT WAS a 100% CLEAR goal!

    ok

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19jw6_lille-manchester-but-refuse

    We have gone over this before, The Lille player pushed Vidic, so it was a foul. Some refs might not have give it, but he clearly pushed him, there probably was not enough force to make him go down, but there was contact.

    Giggs goal, if the Lille players didnt foul Saha, we wouldnt have had the free kick in the first place. Why should we wait for them to set up the wall, when they fouled us to stop us from scoring.

    Ps Lille were bunch of scumbags who went to find an UEFA official to complain about the goal to.

    You can say whatever you want - Vidic fell down like a pussy, and that goal though legitimate was definitely unfair. But what's done is done, and Utd deserved to win over the two legs.

    Vidic went down easily, but if he tried to stay up and they scored he would have been a naive hard man.

    Look what was unfair was Lille fouling Saha in the first place. You should be punished for fouling the oppositon and the advantage should always be with the team taking the free kick.

    They didnt complain to the officail they walked of the pitch, like a bunch of let me think, pussys.
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    Post by Tweesus Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:04 pm

    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    Still doesn't mean Kimbo isn't right - 40 million is a huge amount to spend on two players. Money only Utd and Chelsea can spend unfortunately.

    Still don't see the point though - Utd got to the position their in through good club management.

    Ok, they bought the two players but I doubt he'd have made the same point if Drogba and Essien had won and they both cost a combined fee of £50m

    Just shows the hegemony of the big 4 - that two players can probably cover Bolton's entire transfer spending over 100 years.

    Bolton are just a very well run lcub, but Newcastle and Spurs spend clost to the amount that Arsenal spend
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    Post by Tweesus Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:05 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    Still doesn't mean Kimbo isn't right - 40 million is a huge amount to spend on two players. Money only Utd and Chelsea can spend unfortunately.

    Still don't see the point though - Utd got to the position their in through good club management.

    Ok, they bought the two players but I doubt he'd have made the same point if Drogba and Essien had won and they both cost a combined fee of £50m

    Only if Chelsea fans were going "look at our young players, aren't we great", as if they're academy products. <Ale>

    Fair play, I didn't see that - I was trying not to throw up at all the pictures of Ronaldo they were posting.
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:05 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    You're right, it is money well spent, it's also money only a few clubs can afford.... so there. tongue

    Your club has enough money to win the league (assuming you go out of all the cups early and have few injuries-like Arsenal in the unbeaten season).

    We're not THAT rich, we couldn't spend £20m on a player, let alone £30m. There's no way we have enough money to win the league, not anymore.
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    Post by Deano Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:05 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Lucas Deano Neill wrote:I predicted in an earlier thread he'll get both. At least it's deserved!

    ok
    Rolling Eyes Drogba Rolling Eyes

    Ronaldo has been immense...even more so than Drogba...I don't even think Ronaldo is that far short of goals than him Laughing
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    Post by Rez Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:08 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    Still doesn't mean Kimbo isn't right - 40 million is a huge amount to spend on two players. Money only Utd and Chelsea can spend unfortunately.

    Still don't see the point though - Utd got to the position their in through good club management.

    Ok, they bought the two players but I doubt he'd have made the same point if Drogba and Essien had won and they both cost a combined fee of £50m

    Only if Chelsea fans were going "look at our young players, aren't we great", as if they're academy products. <Ale>

    Kimbo if Ronaldo and Rooney went to Newcastle, Ronaldo would be playing like Viana did for you and Rooney would be on the treatment table like Owen.

    Ronaldo cost £5m less than Owen so you could have bought him, Rooney cost £3m more than Owen (if you take into account the inital fee) and you tried to buy him, so stop complaining about money.

    United made Ronaldo the player he is now, Robben and Reyes were all at the same level a few years back abilty wise, now look at were they are now compared to Ronaldo.
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:08 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    You're right, it is money well spent, it's also money only a few clubs can afford.... so there. tongue

    Your club has enough money to win the league (assuming you go out of all the cups early and have few injuries-like Arsenal in the unbeaten season).

    We're not THAT rich, we couldn't spend £20m on a player, let alone £30m. There's no way we have enough money to win the league, not anymore.

    Didn't you try and buy Rooney, and you were outbid, or he turned you down?
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:10 pm

    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    You're right, it is money well spent, it's also money only a few clubs can afford.... so there. tongue

    Your club has enough money to win the league (assuming you go out of all the cups early and have few injuries-like Arsenal in the unbeaten season).

    We're not THAT rich, we couldn't spend £20m on a player, let alone £30m. There's no way we have enough money to win the league, not anymore.

    Didn't you try and buy Rooney, and you were outbid, or he turned you down?

    We bid £20m, but we would've had to borrow from the bank for that, we dodged a bullet really.
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    Post by Tweesus Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:12 pm

    Lucky for Rooney, if he'd gone to Newcastle Utd he'd probably have got some sort of career threatening injury Wink
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    Post by shazlx Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:12 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    You're right, it is money well spent, it's also money only a few clubs can afford.... so there. tongue

    Your club has enough money to win the league (assuming you go out of all the cups early and have few injuries-like Arsenal in the unbeaten season).

    We're not THAT rich, we couldn't spend £20m on a player, let alone £30m. There's no way we have enough money to win the league, not anymore.

    You could if you bought well then sold for profit and then bought well again - good long term management is the key. Your club has the money to pay the top wages to keep the top players. All you need to do is spot the top players early enough to buy them - if they become too big then sell and then buy a fairly young but competent replacement and strengthen the squad with the rest of the money. If you do this you can challenge look at Roma, Fiorentina. It is possible if you have some could academy players (even if you get them young like Arsenal).
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:13 pm

    Rez wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    Still doesn't mean Kimbo isn't right - 40 million is a huge amount to spend on two players. Money only Utd and Chelsea can spend unfortunately.

    Still don't see the point though - Utd got to the position their in through good club management.

    Ok, they bought the two players but I doubt he'd have made the same point if Drogba and Essien had won and they both cost a combined fee of £50m

    Only if Chelsea fans were going "look at our young players, aren't we great", as if they're academy products. <Ale>

    Kimbo if Ronaldo and Rooney went to Newcastle, Ronaldo would be playing like Viana did for you and Rooney would be on the treatment table like Owen.

    Ronaldo cost £5m less than Owen so you could have bought him, Rooney cost £3m more than Owen (if you take into account the inital fee) and you tried to buy him, so stop complaining about money.

    United made Ronaldo the player he is now, Robben and Reyes were all at the same level a few years back abilty wise, now look at were they are now compared to Ronaldo.

    You can't compare Ronaldo to Viana, he was always alot more talented. And it's not just Newcastle he's failed at it's also Valencia.

    We'll have to agree to disagree because i give Sporting and Everton more credit for their development, it was them that made them. <Ale>
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    Post by Deano Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:14 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Lucky for Rooney, if he'd gone to Newcastle Utd he'd probably have got some sort of career threatening injury Wink

    Laughing I cant believe that Roeder can honestly attract players either. If I was a footballer and had a transfer meeting with him I'd be asking if I could join Hartlepool instead.
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    Post by Tweesus Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:15 pm

    Roeder seems completely unnaware of anyone though.

    He keeps in pulling out the classic line whenever the toon are linked with someone 'I haven't eve heard of *****'

    He'd never heard of Tavano! what kind of manager is he if he hasn't heard of on of the hottest players in Italy last season!
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    Post by Rez Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:16 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    You're right, it is money well spent, it's also money only a few clubs can afford.... so there. tongue

    Your club has enough money to win the league (assuming you go out of all the cups early and have few injuries-like Arsenal in the unbeaten season).

    We're not THAT rich, we couldn't spend £20m on a player, let alone £30m. There's no way we have enough money to win the league, not anymore.

    You could if you bought well then sold for profit and then bought well again - good long term management is the key. Your club has the money to pay the top wages to keep the top players. All you need to do is spot the top players early enough to buy them - if they become too big then sell and then buy a fairly young but competent replacement and strengthen the squad with the rest of the money. If you do this you can challenge look at Roma, Fiorentina. It is possible if you have some could academy players (even if you get them young like Arsenal).

    Kimbo doesnt want to look at solutions to his clubs troubles, he finds it easier to blame the CL money (despite Newcastles squad costing £10 less than Arsenals) than his for club continuosly wasting money on rubbish managers and players.
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    Post by shazlx Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:18 pm

    Lucas Deano Neill wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Lucas Deano Neill wrote:I predicted in an earlier thread he'll get both. At least it's deserved!

    ok
    Rolling Eyes Drogba Rolling Eyes

    Ronaldo has been immense...even more so than Drogba...I don't even think Ronaldo is that far short of goals than him Laughing

    shazlx wrote:Drogba has been the more complete player this season :
    Drogba has consistently shown pace, power, touch, skill, passing, aerial ability, positioning, free kick technique, good shooting technique, finishing and awareness of others.
    Whereas C.Ronaldo has consistently shown pace, power, touch, lot of skills, dribbling, some crossing, finishing, and some awareness of others.
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:18 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    You're right, it is money well spent, it's also money only a few clubs can afford.... so there. tongue

    Your club has enough money to win the league (assuming you go out of all the cups early and have few injuries-like Arsenal in the unbeaten season).

    We're not THAT rich, we couldn't spend £20m on a player, let alone £30m. There's no way we have enough money to win the league, not anymore.

    You could if you bought well then sold for profit and then bought well again - good long term management is the key. Your club has the money to pay the top wages to keep the top players. All you need to do is spot the top players early enough to buy them - if they become too big then sell and then buy a fairly young but competent replacement and strengthen the squad with the rest of the money. If you do this you can challenge look at Roma, Fiorentina. It is possible if you have some could academy players (even if you get them young like Arsenal).

    Like Arsenal? Arsenal are a very well run club but it looks like they can't compete with Chelsea and Man Utd's spending power.

    Anyway what has Newcastle got to do with all this?
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    Post by Deano Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:18 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Lucas Deano Neill wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Lucas Deano Neill wrote:I predicted in an earlier thread he'll get both. At least it's deserved!

    ok
    Rolling Eyes Drogba Rolling Eyes

    Ronaldo has been immense...even more so than Drogba...I don't even think Ronaldo is that far short of goals than him Laughing

    shazlx wrote:Drogba has been the more complete player this season :
    Drogba has consistently shown pace, power, touch, skill, passing, aerial ability, positioning, free kick technique, good shooting technique, finishing and awareness of others.
    Whereas C.Ronaldo has consistently shown pace, power, touch, lot of skills, dribbling, some crossing, finishing, and some awareness of others.

    Can you write that piece on your Drogba poster above your bed Laughing
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:20 pm

    Rez wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    You're right, it is money well spent, it's also money only a few clubs can afford.... so there. tongue

    Your club has enough money to win the league (assuming you go out of all the cups early and have few injuries-like Arsenal in the unbeaten season).

    We're not THAT rich, we couldn't spend £20m on a player, let alone £30m. There's no way we have enough money to win the league, not anymore.

    You could if you bought well then sold for profit and then bought well again - good long term management is the key. Your club has the money to pay the top wages to keep the top players. All you need to do is spot the top players early enough to buy them - if they become too big then sell and then buy a fairly young but competent replacement and strengthen the squad with the rest of the money. If you do this you can challenge look at Roma, Fiorentina. It is possible if you have some could academy players (even if you get them young like Arsenal).

    Kimbo doesnt want to look at solutions to his clubs troubles, he finds it easier to blame the CL money (despite Newcastles squad costing £10 less than Arsenals) than his for club continuosly wasting money on rubbish managers and players.

    Christ almighty you are stupid. I've said several times that i blame the non-top 4 clubs for the state of our shitty non-competitve league. And i know only too well what my club needs to be competing again. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Rez Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:21 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Rez wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    theflyingfrenchman wrote:

    Money well spent??? I don't think our spending over twenty years even covers Rooney's fee!

    How much could they sell them both for now?

    Utd would probably get £100m for them both - a £60m profit on two players is fucking amazing business

    Still doesn't mean Kimbo isn't right - 40 million is a huge amount to spend on two players. Money only Utd and Chelsea can spend unfortunately.

    Still don't see the point though - Utd got to the position their in through good club management.

    Ok, they bought the two players but I doubt he'd have made the same point if Drogba and Essien had won and they both cost a combined fee of £50m

    Only if Chelsea fans were going "look at our young players, aren't we great", as if they're academy products. <Ale>

    Kimbo if Ronaldo and Rooney went to Newcastle, Ronaldo would be playing like Viana did for you and Rooney would be on the treatment table like Owen.

    Ronaldo cost £5m less than Owen so you could have bought him, Rooney cost £3m more than Owen (if you take into account the inital fee) and you tried to buy him, so stop complaining about money.

    United made Ronaldo the player he is now, Robben and Reyes were all at the same level a few years back abilty wise, now look at were they are now compared to Ronaldo.

    You can't compare Ronaldo to Viana, he was always alot more talented. And it's not just Newcastle he's failed at it's also Valencia.

    We'll have to agree to disagree because i give Sporting and Everton more credit for their development, it was them that made them. <Ale>

    Sporting obviously get alot of credit, but the Ronaldo now is a completely different player to the one we signed from Sporting. As I said before Reyes and Robben were at the same level, some may claim higher level, a few years back and they have remained stagnant. Quaresma was the star at Sporting when Ronaldo was there, look how he regressed when he joined Barca. Robinho at Real is another example of talented kids not improving. Seriously united (Fergie) is the main reason he is playing so well.

    As for Rooney, Everton can take the credit, as he hasnt improved that much, although he now scores more goals tham he gets yellow cards, so we have done something right.
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    Post by S4P Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:23 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    S4P2 wrote:
    Batman wrote:Premiership Team of the Year

    -------------van der Sar------------

    Neville---Ferdinand---Vidic---Evra

    Ronaldo--Scholes--Gerrard--Giggs

    ---------Drogba----Berbatov---------

    8 United players! Shocked

    VDS - ok
    Neville - ok
    Rio - lol!
    Vidic - ok
    Evra - ok
    Ronaldo - ok
    Scholes - ok
    Giggs - lol!

    And Gerrard? Laugh

    Why is Rio's position so bad, he has definitely been one of the three best defenders in the league. I agree with VDR and Giggs though.

    Hardly surprising he's there though. He's like the new media darling, and with Gerrard in the team over the likes of Essien, Fabregas, it makes it less surprising.

    Because I can think of 2 defenders off the top of my head who've been better (Carvalho and Woodgate)


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    Post by fcb Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:23 pm

    Even if those players individually deserve to be there, I think it's a skewed reflection of the league to have 8 Man. utd. players.

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