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    Post by Batman Wed May 02, 2007 11:56 am

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    Jose Mourinho Roman Abramovich signed Ballack and Shevchenko to help Chelsea finally win the Champions League, but ironically, both these two players were injured for Chelsea's semi-final 2nd leg match against Liverpool which they ended up losing 4-1 on penalties.

    My question is what difference do you think these two players could have made yesterday if they were both fit?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Wed May 02, 2007 11:59 am

    Two penalty takers if I stand correct so it would have improved the the Chelsea squad
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    Post by Axeslammer Wed May 02, 2007 12:04 pm

    Cue Otto to bang the drums about German penalty takers.... Erm
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    Post by debaser Wed May 02, 2007 12:04 pm

    Ricardo Jol wrote:Two penalty takers if I stand correct so it would have improved the the Chelsea squad
    the shevchenko who's had penalties saved in both a champions league final and world cup ko match? not the best option, methinks.

    ballack would obviously have scored a pen though.
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    Post by Kroos Wed May 02, 2007 12:44 pm

    cech is not a penalty killer

    you need a german keeper Cool

    ballack is the best penalty taker in the world

    and for the 90 minutes ballack had more influence to the game than other players, he is defensevly very intelligent and is behind lampard the most dangerous midfielder

    so lampard was yesterday alone, with ballack i think lampard has more options for the offence, because not all focused on him alone


    one question: was bohluaruz injured, i think essien in midfield and boula as defender should be the better choice
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    Post by Cesc Soler Wed May 02, 2007 12:56 pm

    Ballack would have made a difference for me. Even though Obi Mikel did well yesterday and is a good player overall, Ballack would have been a big plus for Chelsea with all his big game experience. I don't think Shevchenko would have started yesterday had he been fit.

    The Chelsea side out yesterday was weaker than last seasons side for me. William Gallas was a huge player for Chelsea, as well as Hernan Crespo and Eider Gudjohnsen who could always bring something to the Chelsea attack.

    I can see some more big money signings from Chelsea this Summer.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Wed May 02, 2007 4:11 pm

    debaser wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:Two penalty takers if I stand correct so it would have improved the the Chelsea squad
    the shevchenko who's had penalties saved in both a champions league final and world cup ko match? not the best option, methinks.

    ballack would obviously have scored a pen though.

    allright, then we only have ballack left Liverpool would have been only 1 penalty up against Chelsea.... So Kuyt wouldn't be the last penalty man...! Coffee
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    Post by Tom Wed May 02, 2007 4:15 pm

    Cesc wrote:Ballack would have made a difference for me. Even though Obi Mikel did well yesterday and is a good player overall, Ballack would have been a big plus for Chelsea with all his big game experience. I don't think Shevchenko would have started yesterday had he been fit.

    The Chelsea side out yesterday was weaker than last seasons side for me. William Gallas was a huge player for Chelsea, as well as Hernan Crespo and Eider Gudjohnsen who could always bring something to the Chelsea attack.

    I can see some more big money signings from Chelsea this Summer.
    Mikel was class yesterday, it was Makelele who let us down. This really is his last season.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Wed May 02, 2007 4:21 pm

    I though Obi Mikel was all hype. I can now see why he was so sought after. Ale

    Bring in a top class defender and then move Essien into defensive midfield.
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    Post by Dejan Savićević Wed May 02, 2007 5:30 pm

    Ricardo Jol wrote:Two penalty takers if I stand correct so it would have improved the the Chelsea squad

    Liverpool are like the Germans when it comes to penalties.
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    Post by DS Wed May 02, 2007 5:34 pm

    I thought Ballack was missed , imagine for Lampard and I could imagine a better performance.
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    Post by Dejan Savićević Wed May 02, 2007 5:40 pm

    I didn't even realise Lampard played. And for all the unjust accusations that Liverpool just ''hoof'' the ball, isn't that exactly what Chelsea did yesterday to Drogba?
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    Post by Machiavel Wed May 02, 2007 5:42 pm

    Kaká wrote:I didn't even realise Lampard played. And for all the unjust accusations that Liverpool just ''hoof'' the ball, isn't that exactly what Chelsea did yesterday to Drogba?

    To be honest, Chelsea did pass the ball well in midfield , and forward to Drogba .. Mikel was on top of his game.
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    Post by Tom Wed May 02, 2007 5:43 pm

    Rai Mihawk wrote:
    Kaká wrote:I didn't even realise Lampard played. And for all the unjust accusations that Liverpool just ''hoof'' the ball, isn't that exactly what Chelsea did yesterday to Drogba?

    To be honest, Chelsea did pass the ball well in midfield .. Mikel was on top of his game.
    ok Mikel was on fire, the boy is definetly worth that 12 million. Now lets hope for a goal return.
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    Post by S4P Wed May 02, 2007 5:53 pm

    I've been critical of Makelele in the past few months, but he was world class last night. Didn't let Gerrard make any of his 'trademark' bursts, because he was always in the right position.
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    Post by S4P Wed May 02, 2007 5:56 pm

    Plus I think yesterday may have been a perfect chance for Sheva, with Liverpool focusing so much on Drogba, but it's just another 'what if' moment.

    We didn't take our chances in the 1st leg when we were on top, and we didn't create anything in the 2nd leg. We're out and deservedly so.
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    Post by Tom Wed May 02, 2007 5:58 pm

    S4P2 wrote:I've been critical of Makelele in the past few months, but he was world class last night. Didn't let Gerrard make any of his 'trademark' bursts, because he was always in the right position.
    Really? He lost the ball so many times, when he had control of it, he looked uneasy in making the pass. There were a few opportunites for Liverpool that had escalated from Makas mistakes.
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    Post by S4P Wed May 02, 2007 5:59 pm

    Makelele kept everything simple, and along with Mikel seemed to be the only player who wanted to keep the ball on the floor. I think he misplaced 1 pass all night, and was never hurried, nor bullied off the ball.
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    Post by Rasiak-9 Wed May 02, 2007 7:34 pm

    I wouldn't have had Shevchenko take a penalty

    to be honest i thought that Essien, Drogba or Terry should have stepped up
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    Post by fcb Wed May 02, 2007 8:25 pm

    Cesc wrote:I can see some more big money signings from Chelsea this Summer.

    It'll be difficult for them this year...I know I say this every year, but this year all the big clubs in Europe will really be going all out to make big signings. Probably only Man. Utd., Arsenal, and Valencia will stay relatively quiet.

    Otherwise we'll have Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Inter, Milan, Liverpool, Chelsea, Bayern, etc. all with plenty of cash and needing some urgent signings ranging from 3-4 (Barcelona and Inter) to as many as 6-7 (Milan).

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