Furious Rooney in threat to FA

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,1854343,00.html

That will be interesting to see.
What will FA do now ban him from English national team.

Who the f*** cares about the national team? It will be good for United. The FA are a bunch of morons.

Did Wayne Rooney think this up all on his own?

Doubt it. This reeks of Fergie's suggestion.


To be honest, the FA brought it on themselves. For years they've done nothing to protect English clubs from such inconsistent UEFA bullshit. And they take a chunk of money that rightfully belongs to the clubs to pay people like Sven to ruin the national team, and to pay themselves to try to ruin the national game.

I'm all in favour of every England player boycotting all such commercial activities until the FA get their fingers out of their collective arse.

Who told him that this was a good idea? This is going to backfire enormously on Rooney.

The FA are inconsistent and may/can/do appear partisan, but holding your national football federation ransom is never going to work for Rooney himself - even in the remote chance it forces changes in the FA.
The FA is never going to comply, because then they'd have set a precedent. What would be next then? A player(s) holding the FA ransom for a particular manager? More privilages, bigger bonuses, commercial "top-billing", better hotels, WAG-time etc.?

As for Rooney, this will be set in stone as the moment he believed his own hype. That he is too good, commercial or important to be left out. Important enough to twist the federations arm.
Rooney will only lose sympathy with this stupidest of actions; the FA is inconsistent alright, but no-one is above punishment. Its not like he really wants other players to be banned, the appeal is solely to seek for his ban to be lifted. A demand for certain immunity by holding the federation ransom.
Yes, that'll look good.

You better believe that everyone outside Blighty will be following this as well. He might even face harsher referees after this.

The ironic thing is, that he might not have as much commercial value after this action as he had before.

Really bad move IMO.

If you want to change the FA you have to do it through other channels. Or wait til you're retired.

It's a good move and smarter than it looks.

Now Beckham is gone, Rooney is the man who will make them the most through commercial activities.

He is not going to stop, but threatening to, basically saying, you have banned me for nothing, i can cost you a lot of money, so next time, the f.a may decide against banning him.
Everyone agrees almost that the ban was a disgrace. Nothing to do with being inconsistent just wasnt a red.

The FA should be consistent, and so should refs be. But in most FA's, if not all, their decision is final. Sometimes you get harsh punishments, lots of times they miss on things. You can get suspended for elbowing and not being carded, while if you're given a yellow for headbutting (for example) you're off the hook. The never punish the most blatant of dives either. With Fa's its a roll of the dice like it often is with refs. Sadly though... However their decision is final.

What Rooney is doing is holding the FA ransom, or as you put it LRD, blackmailing them. Let them think twice before daring to suspend him- if they know what's good for them.

Good move if you're a dictatorial "might is right" type of person, but certainly not a good move overall:
>He'll be tainted as supremely arrogant and lose appeal (no role model)
>He'll not be as commerrcial
>Most important: Referees around the globe don't forget these type of things

For once I agree with DD on a Man United issue.

Rooney should drop this one.

However the friendly system and the punishments that get carried over should be looked at.

DD is spot on.

At the end of the day, whether or not Rooney thinks he's been really hard done by, it's tough. The more he carries this on, the more it'll backfire on him. All he should do imo, is just see out this 3 match ban and then it'll be all over and done with, and it'll just make the FA look like c*cks (whereas if Rooney carries on like he is, it's gonna end up with him looking like a c*ck)

So, you all admit that he shouldn't have been banned, and you all admit that the FA needs to be pressured into changing, but you say Rooney will look like a cock? For standing up for good standards in football? I doubt it.

The more players, managers and the press demand consistency and accurate application of the rules the better, in my view.

Rooney is being victimised and is doing everything in his power to change it; this is how the real world works, why should football be exempt for common sense and decency?

Yup DD is indeed spot on, Rooney should move on. Getting your ban lifted sets an incredibly dangerous precedent, where does it end.

saintgoingmarching wrote:but you say Rooney will look like a cock? For standing up for good standards in football? .

He's not setting good standards if he doesn't let it drop though. It'll end up being like the nagging wife (annoying everyone).

If he threatens to walk out of the England team, that's not good standards. That's annoying and affecting the fans, the team and could well end up backfiring on him, if they do to him what they did to Lee Bowyer whilst he was on trial (they wouldn't let him join in the squad)

If he just says fine and gets on with it, that's setting a good standard as it shows that, although he may've been hard done by, he's just getting on with his football.

He's not threatning to walk out on the England team though is he? He's saying he wont let them use him for marketing. I think thats fair enough to be honest, they've fucked him over, made an example of him. Give him a ban for a nothing challenge, seems fair to me that he would feel let down and want to stop helping the FA.

Which is fine, as long as they don't give in - which would be disastrous. The thing is that assuming they won't lift the ban, and never would, this is just pointless petulance from Rooney.

It's not really preulance though, its just fair play in my opinion. The FA have punished him for nothing, if he wants to stop helping them make money off his back then thats fair.

This wouldn't fly with our FA at least. To issue an ultimatum to our FA as a player, no matter how important, would likely result in a long term ban for the national team.

Hell, they banned Stefan Effenberg, one of the best players at that time, for insulting the fans. He never played for the national team again after that incident in the 1994 WC. I'd say that this is even a more major affront in the eyes of your FA.

Maybe your f.a wouldnt be so stupid to ban a player when the whole world knew it wasnt a red card.
It must be made clear to the f.a make ridiculous decisions, it will backfire

l r d, again you fail to understand that this is about principle. I don't think that you English are so different to us tbh.

blutgraetsche wrote:l r d, again you fail to understand that this is about principle. I don't think that you English are so different to us tbh.

Principle is on Rooney's side, however practicality, in the FA's eyes, is on their side.

Rooney is doing this out of principle of being punished unfairly.
The FA are Arsenal and Liverpool fans and are doing it out o....
ahh well im not taking that conspiracy theory (even though its actualy true, in regards to who they support)

The FA want to do this to punish Rooney (keep him inline) and stop other players from stepping out. They did not have to keep the ban in place and the whole process is secrative. Could you imagine this sort of thing in any other proffession? The FA are acting like 'little Hitlers'.

blutgraetsche wrote:l r d, again you fail to understand that this is about principle. I don't think that you English are so different to us tbh.

Kind of it is, but for rooney no? He makes someone a lot of money, and this someone is being unfair towards him, should he keep making them the money and say nothing, and let them think they can punish him unfairly again

See, I'm not even taking sides in this, I'm not trying to judge Rooney, not even talking about the red card being unfair or not. What I'm trying to say is that Rooney is stupid to issue an ultimatum to the FA, no matter if he has good reason to be pissed off or not, because the FA simply can't allow a player, no matter how important, to put pressure on them. They will lose face if they give in, they simply can't let that happen.

I can only say that this is how our FA would react at least, they would lose their authority and make a fool of themselves if they'd allow any player to issue an ultimatum.

blut
remember Effenberg.

BilalShah, I mentioned Effenberg earlier in this thread.

Does our FA actually have any face left to lose?

Banning him in the face place has made them look bad enough.

blutgraetsche wrote:BilalShah, I mentioned Effenberg earlier in this thread.

Sorry didnt read that , could the FA ban him like ours did with Effenberg.

borocooper wrote:Banning him in the face

Painful!

Kimbo wrote:

borocooper wrote:Banning him in the face

Painful!

haha hmmm

dont know why the hell i wrote that