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    Why Schalke HAVE to win the Bundesliga ?

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    Post by Ä Thu May 10, 2007 2:07 pm

    I thought about it long and hard and came to the following conclusion:

    if you turn left at the next traffic light, follow the bike lane, cross the street after about 500 metres and take a right at the Post Office,

    ALL WILL BE WELL

    since Allofs and Schaaf NEVER listen to my advice, I now want Schalke to lift the Salad-Bowl

    let's face it, this was WErder's season to win from the outset, a majority of Bundesliga fans even picked them over double-Double champs Bayern

    Schalke should NEVER have been in contention

    their players are worse than those of Werder or Bayern; the commercial management was mostly famous for grand-standing and in-fighting; their coach was a complete novice on probation (who took massive risks by benching Rost in favour of the KID, Neuer, between the goalposts); at one point the team was split into two camps; they then went on a media strike; and when the key phase of the season began, key players like Kuranyi and Lincoln got injured

    and YET

    Bayern and WErder kept GIVING and GIVING and GIVING...

    Schalke have the BEST fans in the Bundesliga, together with Dortmund and Gladbach

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    Schalke have not won the League for well over 40 years affraid

    they are like an upmarket Newcastle

    so whilst my heart still hopes for Klose and Frings to lift the BOWL, the head says they really don't deserve it

    in other words: FORZA SCHALKE <Ale>

    (what an exhausting season: I started off supporting HSV, then swtiched to Bremen and now ended up with SChalke; if Stuttgart keep up their good form , I might have to reconsider yet again ) Biggrin
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    Post by Kimbo Thu May 10, 2007 2:09 pm

    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:
    they are like an upmarket Newcastle

    Should that not be downmarket Newcastle, considering the league they're in? scratch
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu May 10, 2007 2:16 pm

    Schalke are the only team i *don't* want to win it !

    It's the most boring team *ever* (and you've quite a collection and history there in Germany).

    Werder can win it because they play decent football or at least try to do so, that deserves to be rewarded. Stutgart can win it because everyone loves the underdog.

    Schalke however may *not* win it, Liverpool vs Chelsea were just two games : this club does it all the time Yikes
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    Post by Ä Thu May 10, 2007 2:35 pm

    @axe

    Schalke were MASSIVE underdogs compared to Bayern or Werder

    IMHO they don't have enough German players + I always hated Assauer; but clearly they are moving in the right direction

    German football is YEARNING for a few consistent big players alongside Bayern; Bayer have given up, Dortmund overspent, Werder under Schaaf will never win anything of international note either

    Schalke have a habit of choking, but give Slomka time

    they and HSV are our only hope in the medium term

    long-term you could add Berlin whereas Bremen will merely become our very own Arsenal: pretty to look at , but no substance, a bit like your average Italian car

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    Post by Rez Thu May 10, 2007 3:08 pm

    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:(what an exhausting season: I started off supporting HSV, then swtiched to Bremen and now ended up with SChalke; if Stuttgart keep up their good form , I might have to reconsider yet again ) Biggrin

    You really are the biggest glory hunter, if it wasn't so funny it would be tragic.
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    Post by Ä Thu May 10, 2007 3:16 pm

    Rez wrote:
    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:(what an exhausting season: I started off supporting HSV, then swtiched to Bremen and now ended up with SChalke; if Stuttgart keep up their good form , I might have to reconsider yet again ) Biggrin

    You really are the biggest glory hunter, if it wasn't so funny it would be tragic.

    it's called "spread-supporting"

    I diversify my emotional football investments

    in contrast to financial investments it is risk-free BUT tends to yield disproportionate gains Biggrin
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    Post by chrissicross Thu May 10, 2007 3:54 pm

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    Post by Ä Thu May 10, 2007 4:17 pm

    @chrissi

    did you read ex-Bremer , Basler, saying : " ich goenn es Schalke" ???

    in sport1.de

    Aussauer's hated Schalke have become the neutrals' No 1

    quite an achievement , if you consider that Bremen play far more entertaining football

    should provide you Schaaf fan with a lot of food for thought Very Happy

    Allofs believes that Werder will ALWAYS remain an Ausbildungsverein affraid


    if that is seriously the extent of his ambitions, I'm out

    personally, I cannot identify with such a defeatest attitude

    my heart will always beat green/orange (my father will even attend the Frankfurt match), but Schaaf and now even Allofs + Bremen fans who call my beloved Klose a "Bayern-Sau" are driving me into the arms of Schalke and HSV once more

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    Post by Axeslammer Thu May 10, 2007 4:21 pm

    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote: Bremen fans who call my beloved Klose a "Bayern-Sau" are driving me into the arms of Schalke and HSV once more

    Those Bremen fans have it right ok

    HSV is a one man team : if VDV turns up they can beat Bayern, if he doesn't they can't even win from relegation-zone teams.

    Never ever have I seen a single player have so much influence on an entire team, not even Cruyff in the single season he played for Feyenoord was this influential.

    Rafael needs to get the hell out of there !

    If Valencia is bidding for Sneijder they can put that money to better use and fetch Raffi.....he already speaks Spanish ok
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    Post by Machiavel Thu May 10, 2007 4:22 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:
    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote: Bremen fans who call my beloved Klose a "Bayern-Sau" are driving me into the arms of Schalke and HSV once more


    Never ever have I seen a single player have so much influence on an entire team, not even Cruyff in the single season he played for Feyenoord was this influential.


    Cantona ; 1995 .. Manchester United.
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu May 10, 2007 4:25 pm

    Rai Krol wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:
    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote: Bremen fans who call my beloved Klose a "Bayern-Sau" are driving me into the arms of Schalke and HSV once more


    Never ever have I seen a single player have so much influence on an entire team, not even Cruyff in the single season he played for Feyenoord was this influential.


    Cantona ; 1995 .. Manchester United.

    Pfft, not even close.

    You serious btw, because I really find that hard to believe. United had much more going for them than Eric le Roi.

    You might be right with the year though : 1995 => Le Tissier for Southampton was *massively* important. They would be relegated for sure without him. Still the difference wasn't as big as it is now for HSV.
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    Post by Ä Thu May 10, 2007 4:36 pm

    VDV is going nowhere for the single reason that Germany needs SILVIE Very Happy

    apart from that, I would GLADLY sell VDV

    he is an excellent player, no doubt, but he blocks the development of Trochowski

    Stevens has done a brilliant rescue job but should go now; his treatment of the Troch is an insult

    1. sell VDV for 20 million Euro to Barca

    2. sell de Jong for ANY price; hey, PAY a club to take him

    3. promote Trochowski to No 10

    4. buy Jansen

    5. get rid of Stevens

    6. sign SCHUSTER or Lothar or Klopp

    7. sign Kuranyi

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    Post by Super Progress Thu May 10, 2007 4:39 pm

    im not sure who i want to win. because of the Sand hype people like schalke but i would prefer werder or stuttgart. stuttgart should get a award for best turnaround. last year under trappa they were dreadfull and i couldnt believe when i saw that they were competing for the title this year. really shows how much can change in a year.and i dont think they have changed alot in the squad which i thought was quite weak last year but gomes has been good as i hear and he is the biggest symbol their turnaround.
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    Post by Machiavel Thu May 10, 2007 4:39 pm

    VDV must leave HSV , Barcelona would be the ideal team to leave for.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Thu May 10, 2007 4:44 pm

    "An upmarket Newcastle" – chortle – you never lose your touch do you Otto ;-))))))))))))

    Not that it takes much to be an upmarket Newcastle I suppose.

    Why have you suddenly become a fan of that, er, genius of football perception that is Loddar these days, the Otto?? (thanks for the Trap interview by the way, interesting stuff)

    Can't believe so many people are taking Otto's little jokes so seriously. He really warms the cockles of the heart...

    Can you post the Basler interview by the way Otto?

    Anyway: NIE DEUTSCHER MEISTER, ihr werdet nie deutscher Meister, nie deutscher Meister...!!!!!
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    Post by DS Thu May 10, 2007 5:46 pm

    Ok you dont want Bremen because of Allof and you dont want us to win,why Schalke then why not Stuttgart ?
    How many teams how you jumped by now?
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    Post by chrissicross Thu May 10, 2007 7:09 pm

    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:@chrissi

    did you read ex-Bremer , Basler, saying : " ich goenn es Schalke" ???
    I´m not interested what idiots like Mario B. think... Cool

    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:in sport1.de

    Aussauer's hated Schalke have become the neutrals' No 1
    No 1 in what? Most disliked team? Wink

    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:quite an achievement , if you consider that Bremen play far more entertaining football

    should provide you Schaaf fan with a lot of food for thought Very Happy
    Well, I still wonder what the question was. However if you want a poll which is representative for Germany, then read this article:

    http://www.focus.de/sport/fussball/bundesliga1/sympathiewerte_aid_55774.html

    Considering Schalke have much more supporters than Bremen it shows that most neutrals would actually prefer Werder Bremen of course. Cool


    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:Allofs believes that Werder will ALWAYS remain an Ausbildungsverein affraid

    if that is seriously the extent of his ambitions, I'm out

    personally, I cannot identify with such a defeatest attitude:
    Allofs just keeps his feet on the ground. That doesn´t mean he has no ambitions. When you compare Werder Bremen today and 1999 when Allofs started you can see how much Allofs & Co already achieved in this 8 years. But that humbleness is an unknown word to you is hardly a surprise though. Wink

    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:my heart will always beat green/orange (my father will even attend the Frankfurt match)
    Your father is a wise man then Otto, surely wiser than you´re. Wink

    otto hat Euch alle lieb wrote:, but Schaaf and now even Allofs + Bremen fans who call my beloved Klose a "Bayern-Sau" are driving me into the arms of Schalke and HSV once more

    pale
    It´s Klose´s own fault.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu May 10, 2007 8:14 pm

    I hope
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